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One man by the name of russell said there was a teapot orbiting the sun between earth and mars, because a teapot was so small, nobody could prove him wrong, he came up with the idea as an analogy for God. This little theory would make a nice easter egg between kerbin and duna.

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Wouldn't it be Kerman's Teapot?

Also, it got me to thinking: wouldn't it be cool if there was a munolith orbiting Jool... that after a kerbal visits it, it turns Jool into a sun so we could have a binary star system? It would not only likely require the devs to implement chaos_forge's barycenter thread, it would also make all those FTL threads obsolete! :wink:

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It's not. All objects in orbit are stated to be so in the output logs of the game. No teapot is mentioned. Even the Magic Boulder showed up in the logs.

But do you have any visual evidence that it doesn't exist?

How can you have visual evidence if it doesn't exist?

It would be like showing a picture of an empty sky to prove UFO's are fake or an empty forest to disprove bigfoot. (Not saying they are real, it's just an example. I belief there are logical, down to earth explanations for all sightings.)

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Jool turning into a star? you'd have to recalculate all the planets' orbits...

No you don't. As long as the mass, and therefor gravity, stays the same nothing will change. Only thing changing would probably Jools diameters and temperature.

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I agree. Russel's teapot would be a great easter egg.

I'd also like to see a real Monolith from the Odyssey. The truncated square pyramid with Squad logo is fine, let it be, but it's not The Monolith.

As for the logic stuff, not having an evidence of something is not an evidence of its non-existence. If you have evidence of its existence, then you have it. That's it. It's called positivism and it's the backbone of science. Russel's teapot is a funny way to mock the superstition, however structurally organized it is.

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Jool turning into a star? you'd have to recalculate all the planets' orbits...

Not so. It would have the same mass, only the density would change (at least if we base it off 2010:Odyssey Two). Jool wouldn't turn into a fully-fledged star, but some kind of protostar.

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It's not. All objects in orbit are stated to be so in the output logs of the game. No teapot is mentioned. Even the Magic Boulder showed up in the logs.

Ah, but you here you make an assumption of uniformity. Although every single known object in orbit appears in the output logs, you assume this is universal--how do you know the teapot that may or may not be in orbit isn't an exception? :P

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Ah, but you here you make an assumption of uniformity. Although every single known object in orbit appear in the output logs, you assume this is universal--how do you know the teapot that may or may not be in orbit isn't an exception? :P

Are you suggesting that Squad works in mysterious ways? ;)

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I love the fact that a suggestion to add Russel's Teapot leads to a discussion about whether or not it's already there and we just don't realize it yet.

Although finding the easter egg would be nearly impossible (which I guess is the point of russel's teapot) since the original concept was that it "orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars". Without an obvious targeting dot to aim for, nobody's going to happen upon it by chance and it would just be an easter egg the devs would know about and nobody else would. (Which, again, almost seems appropriate for Russel's Teapot, but why devote developer's time to a thing nobody will find?). I think it would have to be moved to somewhere where there is a chance it might be found accidentally - like in orbit around Kerbin or the Mun, without any map marker for it - just a little twinkle you might notice from a distance and wonder what it is.

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I love the fact that a suggestion to add Russel's Teapot leads to a discussion about whether or not it's already there and we just don't realize it yet.

Although finding the easter egg would be nearly impossible (which I guess is the point of russel's teapot) since the original concept was that it "orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars". Without an obvious targeting dot to aim for, nobody's going to happen upon it by chance and it would just be an easter egg the devs would know about and nobody else would. (Which, again, almost seems appropriate for Russel's Teapot, but why devote developer's time to a thing nobody will find?). I think it would have to be moved to somewhere where there is a chance it might be found accidentally - like in orbit around Kerbin or the Mun, without any map marker for it - just a little twinkle you might notice from a distance and wonder what it is.

Or have it violently dock with your new space station.

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Or have it violently dock with your new space station.

Station: "Uhhhhhh... Kouston, we have a problem..."

Control: "Go ahead, Commander"

Station: "What is the recommended protocol for hypervelocity crockery, over?"

Control: "The manual says, 'Invite Mission Control to the tea party', over"

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Or have it violently dock with your new space station.

Think about the relative speed difference you'd be going at if you hit the teapot on your way to or from Mars. You'd never see the teapot. You'd never see the cause of your ship explosion and assume you'd hit the space Kraken.

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Station: "Uhhhhhh... Kouston, we have a problem..."

Control: "Go ahead, Commander"

Station: "What is the recommended protocol for hypervelocity crockery, over?"

Control: "The manual says, 'Invite Mission Control to the tea party', over"

Brb, nearly dying from laughter.

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