[1.8.x-1.12.x] Module Manager 4.2.3 (July 03th 2023) - Fireworks season

MatterBeam · May 20, 2015

Hello.

How do I use ModuleManager to replace the stock tech tree with a custom one of my own?

futrtrubl · May 20, 2015

Hello.
How do I use ModuleManager to replace the stock tech tree with a custom one of my own?

Check out the config in Community Tech Tree. That would be the best place to start.

MatterBeam · May 21, 2015

Check out the config in Community Tech Tree. That would be the best place to start.

All I found on that page was how to add your parts to his tech tree.

I found the right way to write tech tree nodes by myself, and spent about 3 hours creating a tech tree and assigning hundreds of parts to the new tech nodes.

The only way I found to display my tech tree in the game was to remove the stock TechTree file, put my one in its place and rename it to 'TechTree'.

The nodes appear correctly in-game, with the correct prices and names and connection.

However, the parts I spent hours slaving over simply don't appear on the tech tree.

Example node:


         RDNode   
   {
        id = Offworld1
        title = Offworld Habitation
        description = Technology to live and work in space. Recruits are lining up to become Space Miners.
        cost = 50
        hideEmpty = False
        nodeName = Pod1
        anyToUnlock = False
        icon = RDicon_rocketry-general
        pos = -2200,1800,-1
        scale = 0.6
        Parent
        {
            parentID = Flight1
            lineFrom = RIGHT
            lineTo = LEFT
        }
    }

Example part assignment:

 
   @PART[MKS_RadialTank]: FINAL
{
    @TechRequired = Offworld1
}

Also, ModuleManager, during loading, shows an error message for a split second, and the following MM patch doesn't work in-game:


@RESOURCE_DEFINITION[LiquidFuel]
{
    @cost *= 6
}

Could someone help?

futrtrubl · May 21, 2015

All I found on that page was how to add your parts to his tech tree.

Relpied to you on CTT thread.

linuxgurugamer · May 22, 2015

A few questions:

1. Is it possible to use MM to delete a part, so that it doesn't show up AND doesn't take up memory?

2. If yes, how? An example would be fine.

3. If not, then how can I just delete a part so it doesn't show up?

I run a lot of mods, and would like to be able to write a config which will delete parts which I don't use to save memory.

Thanks in advance

LGG

Gfurst · May 22, 2015

A few questions:
1. Is it possible to use MM to delete a part, so that it doesn't show up AND doesn't take up memory?
2. If yes, how? An example would be fine.
3. If not, then how can I just delete a part so it doesn't show up?
I run a lot of mods, and would like to be able to write a config which will delete parts which I don't use to save memory.
Thanks in advance
LGG

I've been wondering about this too, so correct me, if I'm wrong. But:

1. It is possible to delete a part, but they still need to be loaded and patched, so it will be the same start time and memory load.^{beware though that removing parts makes existing vessels fail to load}

2. '-PART[parttobedeleted] {}' should do the trick, though some mods prefer to hide it instead

3. everything in GameData is checked and loaded at the start, renaming or removing a specific part's cfg file and it won't load up, texture and meshes are still loaded though and take up memory. You can remove those also but be careful as they could also be used by others.

linuxgurugamer · May 22, 2015

Hmmm. So the best way may be to simply have a batch file (script for Linux people) which will delete the parts I don't want. My main intention is to save memory.

MatterBeam · May 22, 2015

Hmmm. So the best way may be to simply have a batch file (script for Linux people) which will delete the parts I don't want. My main intention is to save memory.

Write a prnl script for autopruner.

linuxgurugamer · May 22, 2015

Write a prnl script for autopruner.

Thanks, that is a really cool mod.

MatterBeam · May 23, 2015

Hello.

The Contracts.cfg in the Squad folder looks like this:


Contracts
{
	DisableWorldFirstTutorial = False
	DisableWorldFirstProgression = False
	DisableWorldFirstRecords = False
	DisplayOfferedOrbits = True
	DisplayOfferedWaypoints = True
	AverageAvailableContracts = 10
	FacilityProgressionFactor = 0.2
	SolarOrbitHeatTolerance = 800
	SunStationaryName = keliostationary
	HomeStationaryName = keostationary
	OtherStationaryName = stationary
	SunSynchronousName = keliosynchronous
	HomeSynchronousName = keosynchronous
	OtherSynchronousName = synchronous
	MolniyaName = Kolniya
	MODULE_DEFINITIONS
	{
		Antenna = ModuleDataTransmitter
		Antenna = ModuleLimitedDataTransmitter
		Antenna = ModuleRTDataTransmitter
		Antenna = ModuleRTAntenna
		Dock = ModuleDockingNode
		Grapple = ModuleGrappleNode
		Power = ModuleGenerator
		Power = ModuleDeployableSolarPanel
		Power = FNGenerator
		Power = FNAntimatterReactor
		Power = FNNuclearReactor
		Power = FNFusionReactor
		Power = KolonyConverter
		Power = FissionGenerator
		Power = ModuleCurvedSolarPanel
		Wheel = ModuleWheel
		Wheel = ModuleLandingGear
		Wheel = ModuleLandingGearFixed
		Wheel = FSwheel
	}
	ARM
	{
		MaximumExistent = 2
		SignificantSolarEjectionChance = 10
		ExceptionalSolarEjectionChance = 20
		HomeLandingChance = 20
		AllowSolarEjections = True
		AllowHomeLandings = True
		Expiration
		{
			MinimumExpireDays = 1
			MaximumExpireDays = 7
			DeadlineDays = 2982
		}
		Funds
		{
			BaseAdvance = 46000
			BaseReward = 120000
			BaseFailure = 0
			SolarEjectionMultiplier = 1.25
		}
		Science
		{
			BaseReward = 16
			SolarEjectionMultiplier = 1
		}
		Reputation
		{
			BaseReward = 26
			BaseFailure = 13
			SolarEjectionMultiplier = 1.25
		}
	}

The ARM is a type of contract. There are several same-level brackets with different names, such as Base, Flag, ISRU...

How can I write an MM patch that applies @DisableWorldFirstProgression = True and @MaximumExistent = 0 to everywhere it is found?

Kerbas_ad_astra · May 23, 2015

Hello.

The Contracts.cfg in the Squad folder looks like this:


Contracts
{
    DisableWorldFirstTutorial = False
    DisableWorldFirstProgression = False
    DisableWorldFirstRecords = False
    DisplayOfferedOrbits = True
    DisplayOfferedWaypoints = True
    AverageAvailableContracts = 10
    FacilityProgressionFactor = 0.2
    SolarOrbitHeatTolerance = 800
    SunStationaryName = keliostationary
    HomeStationaryName = keostationary
    OtherStationaryName = stationary
    SunSynchronousName = keliosynchronous
    HomeSynchronousName = keosynchronous
    OtherSynchronousName = synchronous
    MolniyaName = Kolniya
    MODULE_DEFINITIONS
    {
        Antenna = ModuleDataTransmitter
        Antenna = ModuleLimitedDataTransmitter
        Antenna = ModuleRTDataTransmitter
        Antenna = ModuleRTAntenna
        Dock = ModuleDockingNode
        Grapple = ModuleGrappleNode
        Power = ModuleGenerator
        Power = ModuleDeployableSolarPanel
        Power = FNGenerator
        Power = FNAntimatterReactor
        Power = FNNuclearReactor
        Power = FNFusionReactor
        Power = KolonyConverter
        Power = FissionGenerator
        Power = ModuleCurvedSolarPanel
        Wheel = ModuleWheel
        Wheel = ModuleLandingGear
        Wheel = ModuleLandingGearFixed
        Wheel = FSwheel
    }
    ARM
    {
        MaximumExistent = 2
        SignificantSolarEjectionChance = 10
        ExceptionalSolarEjectionChance = 20
        HomeLandingChance = 20
        AllowSolarEjections = True
        AllowHomeLandings = True
        Expiration
        {
            MinimumExpireDays = 1
            MaximumExpireDays = 7
            DeadlineDays = 2982
        }
        Funds
        {
            BaseAdvance = 46000
            BaseReward = 120000
            BaseFailure = 0
            SolarEjectionMultiplier = 1.25
        }
        Science
        {
            BaseReward = 16
            SolarEjectionMultiplier = 1
        }
        Reputation
        {
            BaseReward = 26
            BaseFailure = 13
            SolarEjectionMultiplier = 1.25
        }
    }

The ARM is a type of contract. There are several same-level brackets with different names, such as Base, Flag, ISRU...

How can I write an MM patch that applies @DisableWorldFirstProgression = True and @MaximumExistent = 0 to everywhere it is found?

You patch it just like patching a part:


@Contracts
{
    @DisableWorldFirstProgression = False
}

And so on. Check out my "KAINET" config in my signature for some more extensive contract-config modding (though be aware that it was made for 0.90 and hasn't been updated yet, so don't copy from it blindly).

sarbian · May 24, 2015

Version 2.6.5

- Clear the partDatabase.cfg if the module manager cache is expired

- Add some some useful log for all modders (search for "[ModuleManager] ModuleManager env info"

- "-nyan-nyan" option detection for the true believers

Downloads :

ModuleManager.2.6.5.dll

ModuleManager-2.6.5.zip

Streetwind · May 24, 2015

Can I list parts in the initial @PART call? As in @PART[part1,part2,part3] {}?

I have a number of parts (about 10 to 15) on which I want to change the same field in the same way. However, due to the nature of the parts and the field I want to change, I can't really filter them with a search term without potentially affecting other parts at random. So I'm going to target each part explicitly. Obviously I can do this with 10 to 15 individual @PART calls, and I have no problem with doing it that way - I just spontaneously wondered if it was possible to compact it into a single one.

sarbian · May 24, 2015

yes, you can use more than one part name with , or |

Streetwind · May 24, 2015

You just thought of everything! Cheers!

Andrew_C · May 24, 2015

I'm attempting to create this MM cfg, base on advice I received in the SXT thread It's meant to fix most of the references to outdated squad paths in SXT but its not working at the moment. My knowledge of advanced MM syntax is very weak, the advice I received and a read of the MM wiki page is basically all I know about it. Any advice and corrections would be greatly appreciated:


// SXTchangedpaths.cfg
// Change paths for SXT and other mods that reference outdated stock paths
// These are only the paths I am aware of so far that have changed, there are several others, 
// and there are ones where the model and texture map has changed  

// Use if want to fix all broken parths
// @PART[*]:FINAL {

// Use if only want to do SXT parts, if using the above remember to comment out
@PART[*]:HAS[#author[Lack]] {
//  Duplicate for as many times as needed
//	@MODEL,* {
//		@texture ^= :^Squad/Parts/OldPathToTexture:Squad/Parts/NewPathToTexture:
//         }

	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^Squad/Parts/Utility/airIntakeRadialXM-G50/model000:Squad/Parts/Aero/airIntakeRadialXM-G50/model000:
         }

	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^Squad/SPP/Mk2FuselageLong/mk2Fuselage:Squad/Parts/FuelTank/mk2FuselageLong/mk2Fuselage:
         }

	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^Squad/SPP/Mk2CockpitStandard/Cockpit:Squad/Parts/Command/mk2CockpitStandard/Cockpit:
         }

	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^NASAmission/Parts/Size3Decoupler/decoupler_and_adaptor_cm:Squad/Parts/Structural/Size3Decoupler/decoupler_and_adaptor_cm:
         }

	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^NASAmission/Parts/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_nm:Squad/Parts/Engine/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_nm:
         }
	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^Squad/Parts/Electrical/2x3ShroudSolarPanels/model001:Squad/Parts/Electrical/3x2ShroudSolarPanels/model001:
         }

	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^Squad/Parts/Electrical/2x3ShroudSolarPanels/model002:Squad/Parts/Electrical/3x2ShroudSolarPanels/model002:
         }

	// this texture map has changed, but might still work		
	@MODEL,* {
		@texture ^= :^Squad/Parts/Utility/CircularIntake/model000:Squad/Parts/Aero/circularintake/circularintake:
         }
}

Edited May 24, 2015 by Andrew_C
Terrible spelling

MatterBeam · May 24, 2015

Hello.

Any idea why this isn't working?


@RESOURCE_DEFINITION[LiquidFuel]
{
    @cost = 10
}

Gfurst · May 24, 2015

yes, you can use more than one part name with , or |

This makes me question something, I was under the impression that ',' was like AND operator, and not OR like the '|' for example

@PART[*]:NEEDS[modone,@module[such]]

would required both modone to be present as well as the the module. Wrong?

Mecripp · May 24, 2015

Hello.
Any idea why this isn't working?
@RESOURCE_DEFINITION[LiquidFuel]
{
    @cost = 10
}

Best guess is because there is no just ( Cost ) it's ( unitCost = 0.8 )

EDIT-

@RESOURCE_DEFINITION[LiquidFuel]
{
    @unitCost = 10
}

Edited May 24, 2015 by Mecripp2

sarbian · May 24, 2015

I'm attempting to create this MM cfg, base on advice I received in the SXT thread It's meant to fix most of the references to outdated squad paths in SXT but its not working at the moment. My knowledge of advanced MM syntax is very weak, the advice I received and a read of the MM wiki page is basically all I know about it. Any advice and corrections would be greatly appreciated:

2 problems. First @texture will only apply on the first texture line. And @texture,* does not work (yet). Second your regex starts with a ^ but the texture path is not the first thing in the line.

Also all SXT part does not have "author = Lack". Some have "author = Lack NovaSilisko".

I advice you to do the long way and write a patch per part


@PART[SXTSaturnV1-2SepSmall]
{
	@MODEL {
		@texture,0 ^= :^NASAmission/Parts/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_cm:Squad/Parts/Engine/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_cm:
		@texture,1 ^= :^NASAmission/Parts/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_nm:Squad/Parts/Engine/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_nm:
	}
}

This makes me question something, I was under the impression that ',' was like AND operator, and not OR like the '|' for example
@PART[*]:NEEDS[modone,@module[such]]
would required both modone to be present as well as the the module. Wrong?

it is a OR when used for the name. And a AND pretty much anywhere else. An other inconstancy of MM syntax That is why using the | makes more sense in that context

MatterBeam · May 24, 2015

Best guess is because there is no just ( Cost ) it's ( unitCost = 0.8 )
EDIT-
@RESOURCE_DEFINITION[LiquidFuel]
{
    @unitCost = 10
}

Thank you!

Andrew_C · May 25, 2015

2 problems. First @texture will only apply on the first texture line. And @texture,* does not work (yet). Second your regex starts with a ^ but the texture path is not the first thing in the line.
Also all SXT part does not have "author = Lack". Some have "author = Lack NovaSilisko".
I advice you to do the long way and write a patch per part
@PART[SXTSaturnV1-2SepSmall]
{
	@MODEL {
		@texture,0 ^= :^NASAmission/Parts/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_cm:Squad/Parts/Engine/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_cm:
		@texture,1 ^= :^NASAmission/Parts/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_nm:Squad/Parts/Engine/Size2LFB/twin_nozzle_booster_nm:
	}
}

Thanks, I guess I was hoping there would be a simple, fast way to do it. Still, with your advice in mind I'll continue to take a bash at it and hopefully learn a bit about MM configs in the process.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Andrew_C
clarified

Kowgan · May 25, 2015

Oh, the Nyan! All the Nyans! Nyan for you, Sarnyan.

NathanKell · May 25, 2015

Andrew_C: The easy way is to write something to generate the cfgs. I use excel. I put in the old and new texture paths for all changed textures, and I get an MM config out of it. That's how I wrote the patcher for SXT for use with Stock Revamp, before Stock Revamp switched to not overwriting files.

Grimly · May 25, 2015

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to do this task with a module manager patch :

For all tanks with LFO :

- Add the firespitter "FSfuelSwitch" module with the given 3 options

- LFO (unchanged)

- LF Only (twice the amount of LF from LFO mode)

- Ox Only (twice the amount of Ox from LFO mode)

- Remove the old resources as they are replaced by firespitter

I was kinda pleased with the following patch (it's not balanced yet and makes all tanks available at start so I could check them fast in game) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11359289/

In the patched version of the game configuration (I'm looking at the ConfigCache file), I can find my variables in the module instance (you may check this result for the Kerbodyne S3-14400 Tank : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11359383/ )

Is there a way to prevent this "pollution" ?

Is there a way to use formulas in a patch file ?

This patch is not an original idea as it is just a try to make the "Stock Fuel Switch" mod apply to all possible tanks.

[1.8.x-1.12.x] Module Manager 4.2.3 (July 03th 2023) - Fireworks season

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