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Have you attempted an Eve accent?  

  1. 1. Have you attempted an Eve accent?

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Yes, but not in stock. My two successful Eve ascents have involved Kethane-burning turbojets to get plenty of high-efficiency thrust in the lower atmosphere, so I didn't need to do nearly as much work to get to orbit. The more successful of the two was simply my SSTO spaceplane with the jets swapped out; the thicker atmosphere made the initial takeoff kind of entertaining, but the rest of the way was fairly ordinary. (The nicest part was that I glided down; no need for any fuel expended.) The logical way would be to use balloons, but I don't have that mod set up at the moment.

It's not that I don't think I COULD succeed in stock, it's just that I haven't felt like making the attempt. If we ever try to land on Venus in real life and return, we won't be using low-efficiency chemical rockets to do the work...

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Two attempts, two failures.

Working on a third craft. It's built...... weighs 150 tons, it has enough DV to take off from sea-level and every stage has been thoroughly tested..... however 0.22 had made landing legs useless so I'm not quite sure how to proceed.

I don't suppose anyone has the .part file for the large landing legs from 0.21?

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I've attempted it once and the 'chutes ripped my lander to pieces. I tried to slow my lander down with the engines on a second and third attempt but missed the hill I wanted to land on (needed to launch from at least 4000m). For now I have decided to save an Eve return for the Grand Finale after I have visited all other planets.

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I got really close, but fell just a bit shy on ascent Delta-V. But I just noticed that that little tiny high-TWR engine I used got a 50% thrust increase in .22, meaning I can take something like a third of the lift engines (and their weight) off my lander and try again.

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Instead of going to orbit, I go onto a suborbital rendevous course with an orbiting ship.

Then I fire the engines on the lander, rendevous the the craft, then proceed to EVA and abandon ship fast as possible, heading to the orbital craft.

I bet that takes some perfect timing.

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I have done it! My .21 save had the last stage of that rocket standing as a memorial next to the VAB! No, it was no a mockup, that memorial was the real thing!

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It's a long story: The mission was done in .21, after Bill Kerman returned to the mother-ship back from Eve, he left the tiny last stage of the lander docked on. Later, when the mission was over and the ship was parked in LKO, .21 came out and re-did KSC. I noticed that the Mk1 memorial Pod was moved, so I decided to put my own thing next to it. So for the first .21 mission, Kirk Kerman went up the the ship, refueled the lander, and repacked the parachutes. He then ditched his own ship, climbed into Bill's former seat, and de-orbited. The old thing landed with a thump a few Km away from KSC. The ground crew came over with a KAS equipped crane and brought back the lander.

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did it in 0.21 and am currently building one to be able to do ALL the science for Eve and bring it back! the Lander so far weighs 1250 t....:cool:

Almost as large as my Jool lander.

Clue is to not bring the pod back but use a seat, deposit the surface samples in the command module of the transfer stage after reaching it.

The 48-7S has more trust now from 20 to 30 kN so you can build a 10 ton accent module who works from 6km and higher.

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Och, ye wee bairns woun ken an Eve accent if ye heard ahn!

(Yeah, it's "ascent", not "accent"; dead horse beaten and all that.)

Eve is such a pain in the butt to leave that I generally don't go down to the surface, so no. No ascents from Eve for me.

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sweet, will have to follow that! I just ordered a new cpu/mobo/mem as the old core 2 duo is not gonna cut it for a mission of this magnitude. I will hopefully get it put together and maybe attempt Eve this weekend. Mission report to follow also

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I made a decent Eve ascent vehicle not that different from Brotoro's.

It has two small lander cans for the crew, and worked from elevations of 4km an up in .21.

It flies under it's own power from Kerbin to Eve, but needs to be refuelled in Kerbin orbit and before Eve descend.

I've tweaked a bit on it after .22 to compensate for the wobbly landing gears.

Will test it this weekend. Think it's better now.

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I pulled it off without even having to have a mothership. I went insane building that thing, but my ship made it back to Kerbin and did a powered landing since I launched from about 50m less than the highest point on Eve on a tiny little mountain peak that I was only able to hit because of Mechjeb's landing prediction tool. I could have done it without mechjeb, but at least I did the piloting on my own!

The lag from the launch vehicle hurt my eyes.. Heck, I was still getting the occasional stutter and about 20 FPS from the LANDER.

Never again.

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I finally managed to ascend from sea level from Eve. I used stock parts (ok, i used mechjeb just to reach Eve easier). My vessel landed to the sea and had weight of 127 t. I made many constructions, main thing is to get upper part of the vessel very light so there is no pod, only seat. I used asparagus system, it proved to be the most efficient. Delta-v is atmo/vacuum 11855/13741 m/s.

So now I can reach orbit from anywhere of Eve. I haven't tried manned yet. How much does a kerbal weight? It does affect.

Here is a picture where a vessel is floating in the sea.

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And here it is climbing at the altitude 900 m.

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Impressive, never done an sea level accent with stock. An kerbal weight 70 kg, so if you replace the probe core with an octo2 you should be good, however remember to test the ladders.

Two questions, why not aerospikes at the bottom stack, you also have very low twr around stage 7, might be posible to draw fuel lines up to the 48-7S and fire the outer ones.

Here is my Eve lander, Bottom tank is for deorbit and mounting the lander to the transfer ship, it has to be dropped before landing.

An lower stage with a rover at the bottom. the bottom stage hold all the science stuff and can work as an unmanned research station.

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All stock except mechjeb and a container for storing eva samples and reports who will be put on the upper stage.

I had 1000 m/s left then reaching orbit on a test from 6500 m.

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I finally managed to ascend from sea level from Eve. I used stock parts (ok, i used mechjeb just to reach Eve easier). My vessel landed to the sea and had weight of 127 t. I made many constructions, main thing is to get upper part of the vessel very light so there is no pod, only seat. I used asparagus system, it proved to be the most efficient. Delta-v is atmo/vacuum 11855/13741 m/s.

So now I can reach orbit from anywhere of Eve. I haven't tried manned yet. How much does a kerbal weight? It does affect.

Very impressive. I've only had one Eve encounter and that was a one-way trip

The weight of a Kerbal is 90 'kg', or 0.09t, but that's only on EVA or in an external seat. The weight of a command pod is unchanged no matter the amount of Kerbals inside

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