totm june 2018 Work-in-Progress [WIP] Design Thread

[xoknight]

Dude you can totally make that thing an SSTO.

[Roflcopterkklol]

Well this ended up only being a day project, pretty happy with the result.

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/93059-Stock-tank-with-working-missile-launcher?p=1398286#post1398286

If you want to download it

[Darth Lazarus]

i have a big question: has someone an idea how the soviets have solved teh problem with the center of mass and center of lift with the Buran-Energija design? the US spaceshuttle used to gimbal the eninges ... but buran? the buran was only a payload for the energija.

Edited September 7, 2014 by Darth Lazarus

[Giggleplex777]

i have a big question: has someone an idea how the soviets have solved teh problem with the center of mass and center of lift with the Buran-Energija design? the US spaceshuttle used to gimbal the eninges ... but buran? the buran was only a payload for the energija.

The Energia was actually a super heavy lift launch vehicle designed for different payloads, but was canceled after the first flight of the Buran.

[Darth Lazarus]

The Energia was actually a super heavy lift launch vehicle designed for different payloads, but was canceled after the first flight of the Buran.

giggle ... i know the Energija i was asking how teh soviets launched it with teh Buran without tipping over 5 seconds after launch and crashing into the ground

[astropapi1]

giggle ... i know the Energija i was asking how teh soviets launched it with teh Buran without tipping over 5 seconds after launch and crashing into the ground

Aerodynamics, I suppose. I've heard that making shuttle-type vehicles is much easier in FAR/NEAR than in the stock game.

Edited September 7, 2014 by astropapi1

[Woopert]

giggle ... i know the Energija i was asking how teh soviets launched it with teh Buran without tipping over 5 seconds after launch and crashing into the ground

Real rockets have much larger gimbal ranges than KSP, often 6 times as much than KSP and sometimes more!

[Darth Lazarus]

Real rockets have much larger gimbal ranges than KSP, often 6 times as much than KSP and sometimes more!

right!

and i found a launchvideo of Energija with Poljus. you can see the tumbling of the rocket moments after liftoff, before it flys straight into the sky ... i guess the gimbal was working here to counter the center of mass shift.

Edited September 7, 2014 by Darth Lazarus

[GusTurbo]

Work on the Saturbo V continues.

I wish there was some way to get a picture of a craft without perspective messing things up. Just a flat image.

[WooDzor]

in the VAB. zoom in. keep your camera horizontal and scroll up while F1-ing? overlap the images in photoshop. Profit?

[Woopert]

Work on the Saturbo V continues.

http://i.imgur.com/EhitBS1.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/jbTuRoc.png?4

I wish there was some way to get a picture of a craft without perspective messing things up. Just a flat image.

Try using the VesselView plug-in with RasterPropMonitor. You can go into IVA and look at an orthographic view of your craft.

[GusTurbo]

That sounds handy. I'll give it a shot! I also vaguely remember there was a tool that could take craft files and somehow show a flat view of them, and I think also an exploded view. I may have imagined it though. Something like that would be really awesome.

I might have been thinking of this:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/75554-Exploded-ship-view-Axes-on-the-VAB-other-stuff-now-released-into-public-domain

[Edit]

Here's the VesselView tool wireframe compared to a diagram of the real thing:

Very interesting! I can use this to tighten things up visually!

Edited September 8, 2014 by GusTurbo

[JTMilne]

Heres a (boat?!) i've been working on

[WooDzor]

That sounds handy. I'll give it a shot! I also vaguely remember there was a tool that could take craft files and somehow show a flat view of them, and I think also an exploded view. I may have imagined it though. Something like that would be really awesome.

I might have been thinking of this:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/75554-Exploded-ship-view-Axes-on-the-VAB-other-stuff-now-released-into-public-domain

[Edit]

Here's the VesselView tool wireframe compared to a diagram of the real thing:

http://i.imgur.com/3AoqNBn.png?2http://i.imgur.com/EhitBS1.jpg

Very interesting! I can use this to tighten things up visually!

AWYEAH! That means you have to make it moaaar biggerer!

[Roflcopterkklol]

Something i have been working on, A hyper sonic VTOL that uses no wings/hidden control surfaces or RCS.

It is fairly durable also, can bounce off the ground from 100m

[Frozen_Heart]

Trying (and failing) to get this thing launched. It performs in space well and I can land it easy enough. (flies like a brick)

I just can't get the balance right for both the SRBs and the main tank when they detach. :/

[SofusRud]

Trying (and failing) to get this thing launched. It performs in space well and I can land it easy enough. (flies like a brick)

I just can't get the balance right for both the SRBs and the main tank when they detach. :/

http://i.imgur.com/wtB58cz.png

Try manually adjusting the thrust of your main engines with the thrust-limiter whilst flying

[GusTurbo]

Here's a better representation of the scale issues with my Saturn V:

[WooDzor]

Here's a better representation of the scale issues with my Saturn V:

http://i.imgur.com/Tq9sRZU.png

I told you over 8 hours ago :-/

[Roflcopterkklol]

Hmm someone want to give me an opinion on this thing, idk if i want to make an SSTO version, takes a long time to build one of these VTOL's

If you are wondering it is hypersonic, why i like the design the part that hurts is i need to start from scractch because this design only holds 1800 LF and no O

The thing i want is to be able to land one of these on the moon lol.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Roflcopterkklol

[GusTurbo]

Ok, this is officially the coolest way to show full-craft pictures.

Edited September 8, 2014 by GusTurbo

[Overfloater]

Huh? but that's impossible.

Did you put it on launch-pad, zoom out and cut the background out with Paint? Nah can't be.

OR... did you use a telescope mod to zoom-in from the distance?

Edited September 8, 2014 by Overfloater

[GusTurbo]

It's a plugin called KronalUtils. It allows you to take orthographic shots of your craft in the VAB/SPH. Development of the plugin has been discontinued by its creator, but the license would allow anyone to pick it up and run with it. Here's a link:

KronalUtils

It's awesome, get it now!

Edited September 8, 2014 by GusTurbo

[Overfloater]

That is awesome.

Oh yeah, and the rocket is cool too ;-D

Almost reminds me a bit of that manned-Lunar-landing rocket x-]

J.K. it looks quite improved since your earlier variant from a few months ago.

Judging by it's size... it doesn't go just to the Mun, does it? o _ o

One of these days ya'll is gonna infect me with that replica-enthusiasm.

[GusTurbo]

It does just go to the moon, although I could change that by adding more fuel to the tanks. In order to get that replica performance, I've had to severely handicap the rocket, basically.