Open Part Mod voting poll.

[Taki117]

No problem

SNIP

I don't know, I think there were ingame screenshots in the dev thread, though.

greetings,

Themorris

I like it, the size isn't too bad for what it is, and it looks like it could hold a useful amount of stuff)

[The Space Man]

Hmm, so what happens if BahamutoD and StarVision get the same amount of votes?

[frizzank]

So I learned a few things

First, the poling system on this forum is not so great. You cant edit it once you start.

Second, Having each person posting in their own thread that they control would have been a much better way for them to maintain control and get better specific feedback on their work.

Third, official entry's should have had links to there respective threads in the Contest start thread, and just a link to the poll wherever it may be.

I didn't want to have everyone start their own thread because I didn't want to clog up the add-on development thread with 27 posts about the same general part, but there were not that many entry's so it's kind of a moot point. Its own new sub forum with the contest start stickied may have worked out better, but im not a moderator so that is out of my hands.

StarVision won so he gets to decide whats next. As well as being in charge of setting up a new thread with what he wants everyone to make. Contest lasts a week and then we vote for a week and it starts again.

Try to post something by Friday evening.

1. The part must be a single part
   
2. The part must be different visually than any previous part (be creative, if a fuel tank was done last week do a science part this one)
   
3. Simple enough for beginners to make (The Apollo capsule IVA is *NOT* simple)
   
4. Have some direction and constraint to it
   

The direction and constraints consisting of its size and purpose at a minimum. "Make an engine" (to general) or "Make the Death Star" (to complicated) is not a valid description.

"Make a 2.5m nuclear engine that looks like it was built in the 1960's" would be valid description.

Edited April 24, 2014 by frizzank

[Tiberion]

I dunno, I think separate posts per entrant is still going to get spammy, and make the contest too disjointed to boot.

You can just use the 1st post from each entrant as their "entry post" and then link that post in the 1st post of the thread, and they can edit/update that post with the latest info, download links and whatever while still being able to make other posts later as part of the discussion

[Themorris]

I dunno, I think separate posts per entrant is still going to get spammy, and make the contest too disjointed to boot.

You can just use the 1st post from each entrant as their "entry post" and then link that post in the 1st post of the thread, and they can edit/update that post with the latest info, download links and whatever while still being able to make other posts later as part of the discussion

Jup, I think the same

[CaptainKipard]

A sub forum would be ideal. Why not request one? It would make this project more visible get more people on board and increase the quality of mods even more. I think that's as good a rationale as any.

Failing that if you have one thread for submissions then you should also have a separate thread for progress and discussions.

[DMagic]

I think one post per contest is probably ok. That way it is less likely to get lost on page five or six of the subforum, this forum can be really busy, so it doesn't take log to get pushed off of the first page. If a huge number of people start joining it might become a problem, but until then one post seems ok.

I do have one suggestion though, if the contest is going to start on Friday it should end the Monday after next. That would give people two weekends to work on it. Voting doesn't take much time, so allowing only three or four days for that shouldn't be an issue, but having two weekends could really help with people who don't have much time during the week.

[StarVision]

Well, as I'm going to be making the next thread I guess I have to decide what to do.

What I think would make the most sense is to have a development thread, basically like the last one, and then a couple days before the deadline have a submission thread where each entry would have one post. I could then add in all the entries to the OP and stick on a poll. Regarding timing, I feel like having two weekends would be beneficial, and really it's only another 2 days. We could even start this Saturday to bring it closer to a week. I'll get a thread posted tonight.

Edited April 24, 2014 by StarVision

[CaptainKipard]

Sounds good to me StarVision. I'm eager to see what idea you come up with. Could I just suggest that you make it practical, and if you can make it something that's missing right now?

I'm still wondering if frizzank will keep a compilation mod and thread either for winners or just a compilation of links or something or nothing.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Cpt. Kipard

[Dirt_Merchant]

In light of how this poll worked out, I hereby propose that unless one submits a mod entry, one should not be allowed to vote for the winner. That is to say, only the participants should be allowed to vote for the winner. A public poll strikes me as inappropriate for this contest. Sure maybe allow a people's winner, but the official vote should be held only among participants.

[Justin Kerbice]

In light of how this poll worked out, I hereby propose that unless one submits a mod entry, one should not be allowed to vote for the winner. That is to say, only the participants should be allowed to vote for the winner. A public poll strikes me as inappropriate for this contest. Sure maybe allow a people's winner, but the official vote should be held only among participants.

Sounds too restrictive to me, kind of a judge on a trial with only judges (even Dredd's world judges ). Mods are not limited to modders, poll should not too.

Even though, participants may not be allowed to vote as it's irrelevant (each on will vote for him/herself unless...)

[Dirt_Merchant]

Sounds too restrictive to me, kind of a judge on a trial with only judges (even Dredd's world judges ). Mods are not limited to modders, poll should not too.

Even though, participants may not be allowed to vote as it's irrelevant (each on will vote for him/herself unless...)

Everyone always assumes that people would vote for themselves, but its always a fallacy of personal judgement. You assume that everyone is out for

themselves, but people actually only rarely vote for themselves(excluding sociopaths). We could go on about this for awhile if you like...

Back to my argument... I propose that those who don't participate do

not understand what it takes to make a mod, and therefor should be restricted from judging the actual winner. By having participants vote only, you have a

group of judges, yes judges, that are able to appreciate what it is that went into each part, plugin, or package. Thus you avoid some idiots coming through, thinking "oh thats just a bad picture, i like shiny things, ima vote randomly hehe, ima idiot hehe" you know, cut out the riff-raff so to speak.

[CaptainKipard]

I kind of agree with Dirt_Merchant, but not in this particular case. It's kind of like choosing a movie. When I choose what to watch I tend to look at opinions of movie critics rather than popular opinions, but that's different than what we're doing here, because we're not the viewers, we're the makers. It's not up to us to choose what is "best". It's up to the plebs , because (I think) we're making parts for them. I'm in favour of an open vote.

[Snjo]

I too agree with some of what Dirt_Merchant is saying, however we don't want to cut off audience participation. If only the modders care about and follow this contest and its threads, it won't be as much fun. A feeling of a locked off club of sorts won't do much to invite new aspiring modders to the thing either.

If a new modder can feel like they are participating and have a voice through both discussion, questions and voting before they throw their hat in the ring, we are all better off.

And as D_M said, I don't think most people vote for themselves, both because we think it's wrong in a way, but also because we tend be out own harshest critics. Also, as a Norwegian, I have been raised to be humble and not to boast, ever. You might say Norwegians are the best at humility, in the world!!!

[Dirt_Merchant]

Well gentlemen, you make wise arguments. I hereby concede;) and look forward to the next epic open parts mod contest!

[DMagic]

Back to my argument... I propose that those who don't participate do

not understand what it takes to make a mod, and therefor should be restricted from judging the actual winner.

Um... I didn't participate, but I think I know how to make a mod/parts.

Restricting voting to those who participates seems entirely unnecessary and far too restrictive. We don't make mods only for other modders, we make them for everyone, and anyone who wants to is able to comment, make suggestions, or criticize our work. So I'm not sure why this should be any different.

In any event, the addon development subforum acts as its own filter to some extent. This is a busy subforum, but one that probably gets visited primarily by people who have some experience with either making or using a variety of mods.

[curiousepic]

Thank you to the single person who liked my first part! (Or, misclicked...)

[CaptainKipard]

Thank you to the single person who liked my first part! (Or, misclicked...)

I didn't vote for it, but I did kinda like it. I just couldn't shake the overwhelming urge to twist it into animal shapes