NathanKell Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 How would it know how to?Package managers are *not* easy to make.(Correction: bad ones are easy to make. Good ones take a lot of effort and planning. Really good ones remove the effort of metadata generation as much as possible from the package makers, and thus take even *more* effort and planning.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banbury Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 How would it know how to?Package managers are *not* easy to make.(Correction: bad ones are easy to make. Good ones take a lot of effort and planning. Really good ones remove the effort of metadata generation as much as possible from the package makers, and thus take even *more* effort and planning.)How about just downloading the mods, then? Even that would make it easier, than visiting each webpage manually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Again, how would it know how to? It's not like the existing metadata says how to download the mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ippo Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 How about just downloading the mods, then? Even that would make it easier, than visiting each webpage manually.The problem is, as Nathan said, metadata. How would it know how to download the mod? Because it's not the same thing if the mod is hosted on curse, mediafire, kerbalstuff, github... each site is very different in how it handles downloads.I kinda don't want AVC to become a package manager for the simple reason that so far all the mod managers have pretty much either failed or have been adopted by very few people, because of these problems. I'd like to see AVC become a standard, and I fear that managing features would end up hindering the adoption. Or maybe I'm completely wrong, dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banbury Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Well, thanks for explaining. KPS-AVC is certainly a step in the right direction. Continue the good work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4qFBxkFFg Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Is anyone else running Linux not seeing the drop-down menu?This is what I see after clicking it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybutek Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Is anyone else running Linux not seeing the drop-down menu?This is what I see after clicking it:http://i.imgur.com/ZpeACjf.pngDo you have a log file?Also is the KSP version supposed to be v0.24.2.0? Shouldn't it be v0.24.2.559? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherGoddess Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Is there any chance of getting a stand-alone version check executable? i spent the last hour wandering about updating various mods, only to start KSP, wait 2 minutes for ATM to populate it's texture cache, and get update alert from AVC on Universal Storage.This is AVC working exactly as intended, but i'd like to be able to run a "everything ready?" pass before starting KSP's longer then average loading process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaranisElsu Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Is there any chance of getting a stand-alone version check executable? i spent the last hour wandering about updating various mods, only to start KSP, wait 2 minutes for ATM to populate it's texture cache, and get update alert from AVC on Universal Storage.This is AVC working exactly as intended, but i'd like to be able to run a "everything ready?" pass before starting KSP's longer then average loading process."This system is a spawn from Tyrope's endevours on this thread" = http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/71488-Python-All-OS-KSP-AVC-Kerbal-Space-Program-Add-on-Version-Checker. Tyrope's version is a Python script that you can run outside the game. Sadly, it looks like he has discontinued it.Having said that, I usually find the add-on checker runs within the first minute or so of launching KSP, so I never have to wait for it to finish loading before getting the notifications. I just Alt+F4 at that point, download and install the updates, and run again. I feel that it does not require that much extra time. I don't have ATM though so that may be affecting your experience.I should add that this mod is making it much easier and faster to keep my mods up to date. I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekareya Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) I made version files of various mod i use. you can get them here:[Dropbox Link]I will update them until the mods authors add the .version file to their mods. Edited September 13, 2014 by Ekareya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4qFBxkFFg Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Do you have a log file?Also is the KSP version supposed to be v0.24.2.0? Shouldn't it be v0.24.2.559?I just made a log file, here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B513MM_oKJuSQXRtYXFpZ1RkNzA/edit?usp=sharingNot sure about the version, I thought I had the most recent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hopping in to just give some extra kudos to this. It has made my life as both a player and modder a LOT easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagzeplin Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 does this work with interstellar lite? i noticed i dont see interstellar in the dropdown list though im certain i have latest version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybutek Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 does this work with interstellar lite? i noticed i dont see interstellar in the dropdown list though im certain i have latest versionI've just had a look and the Interstellar Lite package doesn't have a .version file yet. KSP-AVC works based on .version files for update checking, so if a mod doesn't contain one, then it cannot be checked... If anyone has any mods that are not supported and wish they were, just give the author a nudge to include one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagzeplin Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) thanks. im gonna take your quote and post it on the Interstellar lite thread. Edited September 17, 2014 by Jagzeplin its called a "thread" not a "forum" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horman Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It seems that there are more mods, mentioned at ksp-avc.cybutek.net, that have no version file included.I have selected a bunch of mods from that side and installed them and after launching ksp - only a few of them appeared in the version check list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlonic Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I think version file for these fresh arrived mods will come with their next updates, authors might just being testing the thing for now.Like I did for Chatterer.Anyways, nice to see AVC being adopted by more and more mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Fiddler Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 something strange has happened. initially this mod functioned fine. now however the drop list on the loading screen to show all installed mods no longer functions. the list button is there, but if I click on it the list does not appear. a small graphical change does occur like it is trying to display the list but that is all. any ideas what might cause this? what mods I may have installed that broke it etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Fiddler Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I removed all the mods from my install and put them back slowly until I found the culprit. it is the Hexcan mod. any ideas why the hexcan mod would break the drop menu for this mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ippo Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I removed all the mods from my install and put them back slowly until I found the culprit. it is the Hexcan mod. any ideas why the hexcan mod would break the drop menu for this mod?Isn't the "hexcan mod" TAC LS? It's working fine for me, last time I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Fiddler Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 no there is a mod called "hexcan" I have TAC installed and it works fine. the hexcan mod adds a bunch more hexcans to the lineup. things like crew pods, RTG, engines etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybutek Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 I've just had a look at HexCans and it looks as if there's a blank .version file bundled with it. This could be the culprit, but I'll need to test to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Fiddler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I just deleted that version file, and yes that fixed the problem. not sure if that mod needs it for something or if it was expecting this mod to use it, but so far everything seems to be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosscire Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Sorry for stealing this thread, but do anyone know if there's an out of game tool that does the same thing as KSP-AVC?I love the addon, and with more and more addons using .version files, it really simplifies the upkeep. The annoying part is that I don't know until after the 2 minute long load-time of KSP and then I have to restart the game after updating the addons.If there is no such tool, I was considering making it myself. If so, am I allowed to query ksp-avc.cybutek.net for the versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherGoddess Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Sorry for stealing this thread, but do anyone know if there's an out of game tool that does the same thing as KSP-AVC?I love the addon, and with more and more addons using .version files, it really simplifies the upkeep. The annoying part is that I don't know until after the 2 minute long load-time of KSP and then I have to restart the game after updating the addons.If there is no such tool, I was considering making it myself. If so, am I allowed to query ksp-avc.cybutek.net for the versions?Believe it or not, this mod started as an out-of-game tool. the out of game tool is now long since deprecated, so it would have to be recreated from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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