CardBoardBoxProcessor Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 IMHO dimensions and look are a tad flawed for Energia core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) That Energia is so utterly beautiful! If you need additional sources for your modelling, you might want to have a look at this:http://andegraf.com/rockets/rus_never.htmThere also appear to be many interior models of spacecraft on that site.Regarding the N-IM: I still haven't taken it for a spin, mainly because the bottom heatshield had the nasty habit of ruttling itself to death as soon as the 11D51Ms were mounted... So I used the assembly for a quick picture, and then had to weld the skirt etc. on it. If it does fly now, it'll be able to lift between 230 and 300 tons, without RD-0410s! And with them... *evil laugh*What can I say dimovski, that is one of the coolest sources I have seen, love the simplicity and information.Many thanks!The N-IM, I really want to see it fly now.IMHO dimensions and look are a tad flawed for Energia core.The core here is actually just a mockup, a 2.5m fuel tank sized and stretched to be roughly 5m, so yeah, the proportions will be off.The 2.5m tanks will "hopefully" be more or less exact on the sizes, they are based from orthographic drawings.The smaller tank on the right, to be specific. Edited January 9, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 рð÷òøтøõ ÿрþôþûöðõтÑÂÑÂhttp://puu.sh/ehEzJ/d797e1a519.jpghttp://puu.sh/ehETL/abbd493017.jpgLove that Energia!Is the physics trickiness on ascent due to the "offset magic"? Still, really nice, I like the pseudo-lifting body design thing. Perhaps FAR is what I'm missing, all my spaceplane designs crumble when DRE comes into play.Hell if I know, man I've tried it, it flies rather nicely (in this context, "nicely" means "better than rock"), which means I've finally managed to build a nice little spaceplane I suck at them, you know...The problem is that FAR and DRE does not recognize offset, and there is no hope that they ever will.Currently, DRE is super-easy with FAR. On Medium (aka old "default") settings, Tantares descent module can survive re-entering from the Mun, losing about 30 (of 250) ablative shielding in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntsmanThe8 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Dat Energia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 рð÷òøтøõ ÿрþôþûöðõтÑÂÑÂLove it, will there be that parachute "bulk" on radial tanks?*brag mode* àð÷òøтøõ is development in sense of "growth", you need the word "àð÷рðñþтúð" - - - Updated - - -It LIVES!I present you the ultimate part-welding-frankenstein-abomination, weighing in at a staggering 5000 tons, without any payload, dwarfing MIK-112 with it's ludicrous height of 165 meters, the... http://i.imgur.com/S1huQul.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lLF47Bx.png*____* ....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Love that Energia!Dat Energia...Many thanks! Hell if I know, man I've tried it, it flies rather nicely (in this context, "nicely" means "better than rock"), which means I've finally managed to build a nice little spaceplane I suck at them, you know...The problem is that FAR and DRE does not recognize offset, and there is no hope that they ever will.Currently, DRE is super-easy with FAR. On Medium (aka old "default") settings, Tantares descent module can survive re-entering from the Mun, losing about 30 (of 250) ablative shielding in the process."Better than a rock" is better than the space shuttle! I will for sure try FAR then, I'm not so happy with rapiers overheat and exploding instantly the moment they switch to closedCycle.Love it, will there be that parachute "bulk" on radial tanks?*brag mode* àð÷òøтøõ is development in sense of "growth", you need the word "àð÷рðñþтúð" ....!Bah, my Russian has failed me again.Anyway, the parachutes, radial parts maybe? It is not quite on the cards yet, but maybe. I understand they are a part of the Energia "look".Although, here in assembly and in Energia-M config, without.But, with recovery not being a stock feature, they're not a priority. The original flight had the "bulk", but no active parachutes.Actually, it really comes down to how much texture space is available, as I'm trying to not use too much. Edited January 9, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Wow, nice. I could see the Kerbin Shuttle Orbiter fly on the back of that Energia. Unless of course you are making a Buran... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisK Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That base is awesome! Great to see the shiny gold tanks getting use.Giving Delta V in burn time is pretty interesting, if it was easier to measure burn times...I have a "baby brother" for your base!http://puu.sh/ehKyf/2dfb79e445.jpghttp://puu.sh/ehKBT/3ccfe2bfa6.jpgI think they are stuck on Minmus, but the multiple contracts netted a cool €1,000,000Thanks! Welcome to the Minmus neighbourhood! Say, since you're my new neighbour...do you think that I could borrow a cup of flour?All of these N-1 rockets make me want an N-1 parts pack. What add on are people using for their N-1 rockets? Beale, is there any plan to create an N-1 in the future?The N-1 is such a goofy rocket. DangIt could add a "bolt" failure to commemorate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimovski Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Now I can't give you rep for that hillarious 1st line AFAIK N-I is planned, but there really are a load of them around. If you wish, I can send you my "hand-rolled" .cfgs so you can fool around with these V-II,-III, M, F and U versions...And the blot failure would indeed be hillarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hey, since when Soyuz engines has a core\booster setting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisK Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Now I can't give you rep for that hillarious 1st line AFAIK N-I is planned, but there really are a load of them around. If you wish, I can send you my "hand-rolled" .cfgs so you can fool around with these V-II,-III, M, F and U versions...And the blot failure would indeed be hillarious.What about a "pogo oscillation" failure? There are endless possibilities here.Which one do you use? Bobcat looks okay, but it doesn't seem to have been updated. DennyTX's looks amazing, but it also has not been updated. SXT's is a cool design, but it doesn't really look like the N-1. I really do not like Novapunch's N-1, or their R-7 for that matter. Beale's soviet parts are much nicer to fly.Anyway, sorry for going off on a tangent Beale. Consider this a sign that there's demand for an N-1 in your art style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoojiwana Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm just going to leave this here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Wow, nice. I could see the Kerbin Shuttle Orbiter fly on the back of that Energia. Unless of course you are making a Buran...The size should be just about perfect for Mk3 sizing, maybe a little big for KSO.With throttle-controlled avionics, Shuttle ascent is great! Thanks! Welcome to the Minmus neighbourhood! Say, since you're my new neighbour...do you think that I could borrow a cup of flour?Actually quite enjoying my extended stay on the snowball! It's so friendly.Now I can't give you rep for that hillarious 1st line AFAIK N-I is planned, but there really are a load of them around. If you wish, I can send you my "hand-rolled" .cfgs so you can fool around with these V-II,-III, M, F and U versions...And the blot failure would indeed be hillarious.The N-1 - It's the next launcher I have my eye on. cBBp has made a real nice model as a base, still working on it. Hey, since when Soyuz engines has a core\booster setting? Last update.Basically to allow some flexibility in Soyuz variants The "Core" is four the basic Soyuz design central engine, but if you want to build a Soyuz 2-1, you can switch it to single booster, if you get what I mean.I'm just going to leave this here:http://i.imgur.com/BMIITBF.jpg Edited January 9, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The size should be just about perfect for Mk3 sizing, maybe a little big for KSO.With throttle-controlled avionics, Shuttle ascent is great! May we have a huge gimbal (like 10 degrees) on RD-120 or RD-170 please? Otherwise it won't be possible to compensate Buran-like style of shuttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssgavin1250 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Mein Dear Beale, I Do Understand That You Are unable to make Stock-Alike International Space Station. But, Is There Any Chance of you Making the Russian Orbital Segment of the ISS? http://i.imgur.com/Ug1VDLY.pngAs people have already stated this can easily be done with parts already in the pack, thusly:And yes, I always tend to build the entire thing in the VAB then send it up in chunks... just to make sure it all fits together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That glorious stuff made me start a reboot of RSSA and start a Tantares-powered AAR: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/106698Actually, that is the first stylized AAR I tried to write in English, hope I haven't made a lot of mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 May we have a huge gimbal (like 10 degrees) on RD-120 or RD-170 please? Otherwise it won't be possible to compensate Buran-like style of shuttle.Perhaps.I think with the Energia-Buran, the Buran is more the payload? where the space shuttle was the actual integral launch system.So gimballed main engine rockets is important for off-centre payloads.Ah, it will come out in testing, no doubt As people have already stated this can easily be done with parts already in the pack, thusly:http://i.imgur.com/UDrtZiD.pngAnd yes, I always tend to build the entire thing in the VAB then send it up in chunks... just to make sure it all fits together Pretty unique way of doing things!I like the design That glorious stuff made me start a reboot of RSSA and start a Tantares-powered AAR: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/106698Actually, that is the first stylized AAR I tried to write in English, hope I haven't made a lot of mistakes. I like it! The kind of (I'm terrible at describing stuff life this) "cynical dark humour"(?) is absolutely my favourite style of writing.Well, in other news, I'm messing with Venera.I have a suspicion that the stock poodle engine is heavily inspired by the Venera design (check the pipes!) But I guess I'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lazarus Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 the smell of fresh new Protons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobotsAndSpaceships Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 the smell of fresh new Protons...Relevancy has brought into question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tg626 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Agreed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Man, I cry when I see fairings made from stock structural panels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideswiper22 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hi Beale! I'm loving this mod! . I've been using this since I first played KSP. Can't wait for what's coming next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardBoardBoxProcessor Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 It is my understanding that the Bulky things on the sides of the energia boosters are landing legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimovski Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 It is my understanding that the Bulky things on the sides of the energia boosters are landing legs.It appears that the thingys on the bottom are air-bags. Source:http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=30170.5;wap2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Here is the first mission of new "Proton"- Minmus flyby and impactor. This new SAS for uncrewed spaceships is very... uncomfortable.Javascript is disabled. View full album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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