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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]


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Since it's basically a light Angara, it could be made with the oncoming parts. ;)

Yep, this should come together quite nicely :)

Tantares and HGR?

Hell yeah!!!

Just the props! :)

A cheeky little image really.

Here's what I'm going for with the new LK, a bit more detail in the body.

Thanks again to dimovski for digging up the actual drawings.

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This is very cute, Beale. Are you going to add in a bit of blue (or other color), or will it be grey?

I dislike the blue a bit, the real one would be thermal coated anyway, but ill try and have some amount of colour in it.

Yeah, but you two could do more together.

Who knows what the future could bring? :)

Uhh.. well. It's certainly good to have Gemini IVA finally but' date=' uh. It's missing RPM monitor(s). :( Hate to be on a feedback loop here over this.[/quote']

Too trapped for time, setting up the raster IVA correctly is painstaking. Theyll be around soon.

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So I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but you should totally make two things: First, the little fins for the R-7's boosters. I don't know why but it's been bothering me that they're not there. And the other thing, kinda the same but the grid looking control surfaces for the N-1 would be cool as well.

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So I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but you should totally make two things: First, the little fins for the R-7's boosters. I don't know why but it's been bothering me that they're not there. And the other thing, kinda the same but the grid looking control surfaces for the N-1 would be cool as well.

N-1 fins are coming.

R-7 wings, well, people have not really shown much interest in them, personally it's not a big deal for me. But I suppose they would be nice.

Ah' date=' understandable. Good to hear they'll be around soon. I can't stretch it enough how big of a sucker I am for RPM stuff in cockpits, sorry if I seem obsessive at times.[/quote']

It's understandable, it's really quite an important feature if you plan on doing anything more than screenshots in IVA.

Hmm. LK. ÛÃÅ¡. What was it I stumbled on a few weeks back? ... [Runs off and checks bookmarks.]

Ah. Have you seen these?

http://imgur.com/a/m9rYB

Sure I've seen these! :)

But thanks anyway, it's nice to be reminded of some of the colours.

LEM

Thought I'd do something "inspirational" and show a little of LEM action.

Separate

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We landed that there last year. But with turbulent RT coverage, a crewed landing on the farside is still tricky.

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Touchdown!

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LEM from the Surveyor's mast camera.

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Bobdous inspects the surveyor, if we'd brought pipes, we could refeul the LEM with all its reserves. Not that we don't have plenty of Delta V to get back into orbit.

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Bobdous does some wicked squats, from the Surveyor mast camera

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Nice flag shot.

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LEM in test flight above KSC

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"Corrupted" images retrieved from Surveyor

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Surveyor's own landing way back in the middle of Year 2

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Tropical Laythe

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Can you share .craft file for the new lunar N1?

I'll see what I can do tonight. Right now it's still a little wobbly on the top end, which is why I have no shots between pad and orbit - too busy controlling the thing :D

It does have a functional abort sequence however.

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My N1:

  • REQUIRED Tantares
  • REQUIRED TantaresLV
  • REQUIRED Procedural Fairings
  • OPTIONAL FASA Launch Towers

CRAFT HERE - 2 files; one with launch towers, one without.

MISSION PROFILE as performed by me, based on my memory of the actual N1-L3 plan.

  • Launch: Stages 1, 2, and 3 (use Action Group 1 to jettison Soyuz fairings between 40 and 50 km)
  • Circularization: Stage 3 & 4 (I use stage 3 until my Pe is around 10 to 20 Km, where I stage and finish with Stage 4. This drops Stage 3 in atmo and destroys it; no garbage rule)
  • Transmunar Injection: Stage 4
  • Munar Orbit Insertion: Stage 4

Jettison fairings around LK lander

EVA Transfer to LK lander

Separate LK Lander from Soyuz by right clicking female docking collar

  • Deorbit Burn: Stage 4
  • Braking: Stage 4 until 1km above surface

Jettison Stage 4 around 1km above surface

  • Land on LK Engines.

From here it's like Apollo.

  • Launch, rendezvous and dock with Soyuz.
  • EVA Transfer from LK Lander to Soyuz (Don't forget the science, if any).
  • Cut LK Loose (Optional, burn to lower Pe below the surface, undock from LK, then burn to raise Pe back up to a stable orbit - LK Disposal).
  • Burn to return from the Mun to Kerbin.
  • Once close to atmospheric interface, jettison the orbital and service modules and land in the usual fashion.

ACTION GROUPS:

1 - Ascent jettison of Soyuz Fairings and LES tower

BACKSPACE - ABORT!! (fire LES engine and pull CM and OM skyward)

0 - Eject CM from fairing and deploy parachute

ABORT EXECUTION:

During abort, hit Backspace and then once at apogee press "0" (Zero).

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Is the LEM included with the main download? I don't see it.

Yes, it's within the lower fairings. Though now that I see kopapaka's pics I realize I didn't put antennea on anything :/

Also, jettisoning the fairings in Munar orbit will leave debris. You could settle into a high orbit of the Mun, lower your Pe below ground, eject the fairings and then EVA/Transfer/undock and raise the Pe of each ship individually I suppose. I didn't bother with that though.

The idea of the lower fairing (over the LK lander) is to carry the force of Stage 4's thrust through the fairing to push the Soyuz on top, rather then it being carried through the LK Lander. I imagine the IRL design called for the LK to be so flimsy that directing the force of Stage 4's thrust through it would put the LK lander in danger of being crushed.

Also, for the purest...

  • N1
    • Stage 1 = Block A
    • Stage 2 = Block B
    • Stage 3 = Block V

  • L3
    • Stage 4 = Block G
    • Stage 5 = Block D (omitted in my design)
    • LK Lander = Block E/LK
    • Soyuz = Block I/LOK
    • LES = SAS

Excellent diagram here ->http://www.russianspaceweb.com/n1.html

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Please help me Beale,

I copied the alternative texture for the Soyuz engine in the Tantares/Parts/SOYUZ/Tantares_Engine_B folder, but it´s still grey...

Or is grey the alternative texture?

Also:my RO_Tantares.cfg is still called "RO_Tantares.cfg" ....

:(

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My N1:

  • REQUIRED Tantares
  • REQUIRED TantaresLV
  • REQUIRED Procedural Fairings
  • OPTIONAL FASA Launch Towers

CRAFT HERE - 2 files; one with launch towers, one without.

MISSION PROFILE as performed by me, based on my memory of the actual N1-L3 plan.

  • Launch: Stages 1, 2, and 3 (use Action Group 1 to jettison Soyuz fairings between 40 and 50 km)
  • Circularization: Stage 3 & 4 (I use stage 3 until my Pe is around 10 to 20 Km, where I stage and finish with Stage 4. This drops Stage 3 in atmo and destroys it; no garbage rule)
  • Transmunar Injection: Stage 4
  • Munar Orbit Insertion: Stage 4

Jettison fairings around LK lander

EVA Transfer to LK lander

Separate LK Lander from Soyuz by right clicking female docking collar

  • Deorbit Burn: Stage 4
  • Braking: Stage 4 until 1km above surface

Jettison Stage 4 around 1km above surface

  • Land on LK Engines.

From here it's like Apollo.

  • Launch, rendezvous and dock with Soyuz.
  • EVA Transfer from LK Lander to Soyuz (Don't forget the science, if any).
  • Cut LK Loose (Optional, burn to lower Pe below the surface, undock from LK, then burn to raise Pe back up to a stable orbit - LK Disposal).
  • Burn to return from the Mun to Kerbin.
  • Once close to atmospheric interface, jettison the orbital and service modules and land in the usual fashion.

ACTION GROUPS:

1 - Ascent jettison of Soyuz Fairings and LES tower

BACKSPACE - ABORT!! (fire LES engine and pull CM and OM skyward)

0 - Eject CM from fairing and deploy parachute

ABORT EXECUTION:

During abort, hit Backspace and then once at apogee press "0" (Zero).

http://imgur.com/a/UuTY4

Fantastic! :)

Many thanks.

Is the LEM included with the main download? I don't see it.

Should be: Can you check your "MISC" folder for me (In parts). You should find "Castor_Engine_B" inside there, which contains the LEM fuel tank and engine.

Thanks.

Ooh wow! Nice.

But, the nozzle in the middle picture looks bent, is it perspective or a rough landing? :D

http://i.imgur.com/KZ3WJvM.jpg?2

Please help me Beale,

I copied the alternative texture for the Soyuz engine in the Tantares/Parts/SOYUZ/Tantares_Engine_B folder, but it´s still grey...

Or is grey the alternative texture?

Also:my RO_Tantares.cfg is still called "RO_Tantares.cfg" ....

:(

Tantares_Engine_B only affects the LOK and Shenzou modules.

To change the usual SM you need to overwrite out the Tantares_Orbital_A folder.

Just delete RO_Tantares.cfg, if you have it left over :)

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It's wrongly proportioned?

No no no, not that... the LK has another stage underneath it when it does it's TMI (Tran Munar Insertions) burn aswell as the MOI (Munar Orbit Insertion) and part of the DOI (Descent Orbit insertion), it has a weird shape, with a toroidal tank underneath it.

(Note: you can see it being detached at 5:35 on the video i posted earlier)

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No no no, not that... the LK has another stage underneath it when it does it's TMI (Tran Munar Insertions) burn aswell as the MOI (Munar Orbit Insertion) and part of the DOI (Descent Orbit insertion), it has a weird shape, with a toroidal tank underneath it.

(Note: you can see it being detached at 5:35 on the video i posted earlier)

Oh!

Yeah!

No, that is the Block-D, yep that will be included with LK.

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Actually it's a very widely used upper stage on Russian rockets :)

The TMI is done by the Block G though, that's the Earth Kerbin departure stage.

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Does this mod work with 64bit?. I try to run and it crash. Then I replace ActiveTextureManagement x64 to x86 and try to run KSP 32bit, still crash:(

Here is crash log 64bit

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9MbjBOx39Iwd0ZqaVFfMUFzOU0/view?usp=sharing

output log

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9MbjBOx39IwUHZQOFlSRGlHbHc/view?usp=sharing

crash log 32bit

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9MbjBOx39IwbEtsRmVNdXBvcVk/view?usp=sharing

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