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SpaceXray

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Hey guys,

Just letting you know, I am quitting the forums, either for a few months or forever(most probably).

I am used to a completely open community which can freely express its opinions and won't get yelled at or prosecuted like in former USSR. The so-called "friendliness mask" of the forum is just a golden wrapper.

People here can't tell the truth or discuss some topics even in a civil matter, just because there might be some kids here. Keeping the forum like that is wrong, there is too much censorship and unrequited rules.

Sure, I might even get punished for this post, but you must know one thing: people here aren't kids, and they all already had their own opinions and views. Sharing them is not a crime, and replying negatively about some official KSP services shouldn't be censored, you are supposed to take peoples feedback and use that to make the services better.

goodbye!

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r4pt0r

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I wouldn't be so sure....

well assuming you arent skunky or someone, its all cool here. people disagree on things, i for example never want minable resources added to the game. but the mods arent heavy with the ban hammer. just follow the rules and follow the WNTS list, and all is well.

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Caelib

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You're making generalizations with comments like "people here" ... when I believe you really mean "some people here" -- because the vast majority of this community is pretty good. What specifically is the problem?

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Sandworm

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It sounds the OP made a criticism of KSP that allegedly violated one of the many do-not-discuss rules here. That narrows it down to a handful of topics, such as XXXXXXXX and XXXX XXXXXX XX XXXXXXX, that we all know can get a thread locked or deleted.

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Roastduck

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I am used to a completely open community

umm...

I wouldn't be so sure....

oh dear...

Mods should definitely lock this thread. Just a whiney baby making a big scene about leaving, then not actually leaving

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Padishar

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If you don't want to take part in these forums then no-one is going to try to force you but some of your comments are seriously misguided.

First, comparing the moderation policies here to the former USSR is a ridiculous exaggeration that is more than a little insulting to anyone here that actually experienced that regime.

Second, there are some topics that can not be discussed in this forum because they would leave the publisher (Squad) exposed to potential law suits, e.g. the recent issue with the site scraped from the old Spaceport, allowing posts that provide a link to that site could leave Squad open to lawsuits and there are many other topics that would be the same.

Third, given the extreme nature of your reaction to whatever it was that has annoyed you, I suspect that your definition of "in a civil manner" (I assume you meant to type manner and not matter) is quite different to that of the people running this forum (and most of the users too).

Fourth, I don't think you meant to use the word "unrequited" as it doesn't make sense in the context you have used it. Rules are required in any community (almost by definition of the word community) and none of the rules here stand out to me as being particularly bad. Sure, sometimes threads get locked or posts deleted for reasons that aren't well explained, but that happens in every forum.

Fifth, though it really isn't the main reason for a lot of the rules, there are actually quite a lot of "kids" here. Most of the rules concerning what you are and are not allowed to post are quite sensible. Bad language, insults, aggressive posts, deliberate trolling and lots of other things are unnecessary and do not add anything of value to any thread. A useful rule of thumb for forum (and any other online) behaviour is, if you wouldn't walk up to the other person in the street and say it, then don't type it either.

Sixth, there are some topics that have been discussed to death (usually unnecessarily aggressively and without reaching any obvious conclusions) in the past and trying to discuss them again will usually get the thread locked (or worse if you keep doing it) unless it is very obvious that you have a point that no-one has made before. This is sensible as, otherwise, there would be a new thread about such topics every few days and each one would degenerate into the same argument the previous one did. This would simply be a waste of forum space and moderator time so much better to simply lock such threads early.

Looks like I've been ninja'd several times already but never mind... ;)

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Pecan

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...people here aren't kids...

Quite a few have said they are, actually; ie, they are legal minors in their locale - which probably includes you ;-0

...I talked with kids, teenagers of about my age, youth and some older people...

(My underlining)

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TNM

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Oh dear...

1. this is the Internet...nobody cares

2. this is a forum on the Internet...if you didn't do something really extraordinary for the community NOBODY knows you -> nobody cares

3. you are trying to get sympathy or approval by throwing a tantrum...now that doesn't even work in RL, it just never gets you ANY sympathy

4. you are making generalizations -> automatic trigger for ppl to ignore your opinion even more

The net is a harsh place...everyone can say what he wants, even stuff he would never do in RL face to face...get used to it. Mods can cencor you and never have to face you or explain anything, thats how it works, everywhere. Sounds terrible right? No, its an open culture of honest brutal truth, your either can handle it or you can't.

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Cmdr. Arn1e

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"SpaceXray - Bottle Rocketeer - Join Date: Jun 2014 - Posts: 22"

yeah, you just got here, unless this has been posted on an 'alternate' account...

Hell, I only just got here... The game has been in Developement for over 3 years now...

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KasperVld

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Moved the thread to the KSP Network, since I can't really think of a better place to put it (it definitely doesn't belong in General KSP discussion). Please keep things civil, SpaceXray is entitled to his opinion as well, I won't comment on this subject, because I think my side of things is clear. I will say though, that if you have a problem with a post, a user or anything else you can either report it if that option is available, or you can contact a moderator. This includes questions about moderation.

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velve

velve

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Yeah, spend some time on the Minecraft forums, then talk to us...

I concur, this statement is absolutely true. I think iv'e mentioned this in another post somewhere, but recently I tried to actually partake in the minecraft forums to get a feel for it, and after 2 days every time I logged on I had the urge to post a thread asking if there was a place I could find some intellectual sub-forums or just somewhere I could get the thought of everyone posting being a whiny little 8 year old out of my head. I would not do this of course, that would be stupid.

Reading up on the opinions and views of others in this forum is really a treat. It is one of my favourites. Stick around man, don't let one person ruin your day.

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JumpsterG

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Stick around man, don't let one person ruin your day.

Especially if that one person is a moderator who's just doing their job. You don't have to agree with the referee on the rules but you have to accept his calls if you want to keep playing the game.

And, as KasperVld says, if anyone feels they have truly been treated poorly, contact any member of the moderation team. They will look into things to see if someone made a misstep and will take action as appropriate.

No reason to sulk. :)

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Kinglet

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Hey guys,

Just letting you know, I am quitting the forums, either for a few months or forever(most probably).

I am used to a completely open community which can freely express its opinions and won't get yelled at or prosecuted like in former USSR. The so-called "friendliness mask" of the forum is just a golden wrapper.

People here can't tell the truth or discuss some topics even in a civil matter, just because there might be some kids here. Keeping the forum like that is wrong, there is too much censorship and unrequited rules.

Sure, I might even get punished for this post, but you must know one thing: people here aren't kids, and they all already had their own opinions and views. Sharing them is not a crime, and replying negatively about some official KSP services shouldn't be censored, you are supposed to take peoples feedback and use that to make the services better.

goodbye!

Your opinion is invalid. Forum focus: KSP.

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Brucey

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This thread caught my attention so I thought I'd throw in a few comments. It looks as if the OP had one or two posts/threads deleted by mods, and probably received some harsh treatment, leaving him/her frustrated enough to quit the forum and let everyone know about it. Some of the rules here are, imo, a bit overkill, but at the same time necessary. For example the 'do not discuss' rules. They are in place for Squads benefit, so that they don't have to weed through pages and pages of old discussion when looking for new/useful ideas. It seems a bit harsh, but makes sense when you look at it from squads pov.

That being said, there's also a rule about 'backseat moderating', which I've seen broken over and over again, including on this very thread. My opinion: people should let the moderators do their job, and not pounce on newcomers at every opportunity. If people would be more respectful towards others, give newcomers a little room, and just leave the moderating to the moderators, I think we'd all be a little better off.

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