So. Windows 10, huh.

[_Augustus_]

Still using Windows 7. I really hope that 10 is better than 8.

I'm still on 7 as well

Windows 7 ftw!

[dryer_lint]

7 is way better than 8. Nobody's gonna get away with removing my start menu!

[ZedNova]

I'll probably switch to windows 10 from 7 after it's released, my main gripe in windows 8 was that it was so touch oriented that it was unproductive on desktops. Now that we've got a start menu and all the touch baloney out on desktop versions, it's probably about time i move on to something faster.

[Geneborg]

Let me say at first: Win10 does many things right, for example we have a choice now what and how we want to see stuff on what device, no terrible UI forced on us. Everyone who argues UI is not important really needs a reality check, but thats my opinion, tainted from the fact that i use multiple monitors, are the guy to call when ppl have problems...so i got to see frustration levels of ppl after getting a new notebook/pc with Win8 preinstalled.

Next is the fact that Win8.1 and Win10 are faster then Win7, thats simply true. So from that perspective a "good enough" UI will make me switch to Win10, i also think MS will again bind DX12 to Win10 (they both release autumn 2015) like they did with Vista. I love gaming so, yea, at least one WinPC will switch to Win10.

P.S. a word of advice using the preview of Win10: it phones home, and i mean it phones EVERYTHING home: keypresses, e-mail content, you name it. Its written in the user agreement that nobody reads So be adviced, don't run it as your main system.

[megatiger78]

no windows 9?

[Geneborg]

Its better that way. As a german speaking guy, Windows 9 would be like saying "Windows NO"

[Streetwind]

no windows 9?

Read post #21.

[Camacha]

7 is way better than 8. Nobody's gonna get away with removing my start menu!

See, my point exactly People are so absorbed by that Start Menu that they forget they are dealing with a pretty solid OS.

[Nuke]

See, my point exactly People are so absorbed by that Start Menu that they forget they are dealing with a pretty solid OS.

consistency is more important than speed. ive been launching programs by going to the start menu since around 1994. xp was actually the first os to start screwing with this. but fortunately classic start menu was still an option. after xp i could no longer rely on muscle memory to navigate my os, i had to stop and think how to do something, and that likely cost me more time than the os saved by being slightly more efficient. if we get to the point where we are carving up the ui and replacing it with something else every other version then we are probibly hurting users more than the os is saving them by working with the latest in hardware tech.

i eventually got over the vista/7 start menu. the thing that i never got over with vista/7 was that it changed the names of all the icons in the control panel. when it comes right down to it i wouldn't mind using windows 8.1's guts with windows 2k's ui. thats why i kinda wish that windows would take a page from linux and make the ui completely modular.

Edited October 4, 2014 by Nuke

[Camacha]

consistency is more important than speed. ive been launching programs by going to the start menu since around 1994. xp was actually the first os to start screwing with this. but fortunately classic start menu was still an option. after xp i could no longer rely on muscle memory to navigate my os, i had to stop and think how to do something, and that likely cost me more time than the os saved by being slightly more efficient. if we get to the point where we are carving up the ui and replacing it with something else every other version then we are probibly hurting users more than the os is saving them by working with the latest in hardware tech.

I do not share this experience. I have worked with Windows since 95 and after stumbling around with 8 for about an hour and a half everything started falling into place. Most of the hotkeys are the same anyway, serious users typically use those. The only real reason to deal with the Start Menu was the search function, but I like the Windows 8 sidebar approach more more.

I have not tested Windows 10 yet, when I have some time I will start up the VM. I am very curious how these things look in the new edition and whether search is still as functional.

Edited October 4, 2014 by Camacha

[magnemoe]

I do not share this experience. I have worked with Windows since 95 and after stumbling around with 8 for about an hour and a half everything started falling into place. Most of the hotkeys are the same anyway, serious users typically use those. The only real reason to deal with the Start Menu was the search function, but I like the Windows 8 sidebar approach more more.

I have not tested Windows 10 yet, when I have some time I will start up the VM. I am very curious how these things look in the new edition and whether search is still as functional.

Well I'm IT responsible in the company I work in and after a day I had a strict WIndows 8 policy, reformat to Windows 7.

One hour support from me is more expensive than a Win 7 ultimate license, support is just an side task for me I have more important stuff to do.

If we could start sending invoices for support cost to Microsoft I might consider it, but only if we had lack of projects, we rather have an lack of people.

If MS want to have a cool interface with lots of design flaws its their problems (note earlier post about win 8 fails) not the customers, UI of win 7 works pretty smoothly, yes they need another UI for cell phones and tablets and yes Win 8 would have major issues in a decent tablet (x86 version) decent chance the default pc will become an ultrabook who can be turned into an tablet.

I also have a cool idea, If the elevators accelerated or braked with 2g and spend the rest of the time in freefall it would save time and make elevator rides more fun.

[magnemoe]

I do not share this experience. I have worked with Windows since 95 and after stumbling around with 8 for about an hour and a half everything started falling into place. Most of the hotkeys are the same anyway, serious users typically use those. The only real reason to deal with the Start Menu was the search function, but I like the Windows 8 sidebar approach more more.

I have not tested Windows 10 yet, when I have some time I will start up the VM. I am very curious how these things look in the new edition and whether search is still as functional.

Please give us back the windows 2000 search, I want to be able to search all *.aspx files containing minimizetree(

Server does not have visual studio installed.

[Camacha]

Well I'm IT responsible in the company I work in and after a day I had a strict WIndows 8 policy, reformat to Windows 7.

One hour support from me is more expensive than a Win 7 ultimate license, support is just an side task for me I have more important stuff to do.

If we could start sending invoices for support cost to Microsoft I might consider it, but only if we had lack of projects, we rather have an lack of people.

Who is going to roll out new software without training their staff on it - or at least evaluating whether training is necessary? That is (or should be) standard practice even in rather small companies, if you neglect stuff like that you are bound to run into trouble sooner or later. The same goes for new hardware too, workshop equipment comes to mind as an example.

Of course, you are not obligated to upgrade (unless you are talking about the more than a decade old XP), so I do not think Microsoft is to assume any responsibility. No need to work with Windows 8 yet if your company is still doing fine on an older version - a lot of companies do.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Camacha

[K^2]

No windows 9?

Windows 7, 8, 9.

[WestAir]

Windows 7, 8, 9.

Haha. I remember that joke from Kindergarten.

[Nuke]

I do not share this experience. I have worked with Windows since 95 and after stumbling around with 8 for about an hour and a half everything started falling into place. Most of the hotkeys are the same anyway, serious users typically use those. The only real reason to deal with the Start Menu was the search function, but I like the Windows 8 sidebar approach more more.

I have not tested Windows 10 yet, when I have some time I will start up the VM. I am very curious how these things look in the new edition and whether search is still as functional.

i have never needed to rely on an operating system's search facilities. years of using dos have honed my file management skills to a fine point, and i like an os that mostly stays out of my way in this regard.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Nuke

[Camacha]

Windows 7, 8, 9.

More like 7, 8, nein.

i have never needed to rely on an operating system's search facilities. years of using dos have honed my file management skills to a find point, and i like an os that mostly stays out of my way in this regard.

Of course, misplacing your files is only one of the reasons for using search Convenience or quicker access are two other good reasons, as not only files can be searched, but also applications and a lot of settings. Even if you know perfectly well where something is, using search and the first letter might very well be quicker. The option to search within the contents of your files is also a neat addition. Yet if you really want to you are free to ignore all of that and clickety click your way through layers of folders, or use the Command Prompt like back in the days.

Maybe you are the notable exception, but the current challenge in IT is not storing the data but finding and streamlining the vast amounts of information that are gathered and generated.

[Nuke]

for that there is cmd.exe

actually im pretty damn old skool.

[Camacha]

for that there is cmd.exe

actually im pretty damn old skool.

Nothing wrong with tried and tested tools, I use the Command Prompt and Procmon on a regular basis along with several other classic tools. Not much wrong with the new stuff either, its a matter of picking the right tool for the job.

Personally I like the return of low level control and access, as that was one of the great things about DOS and the DOS based GUI's. It makes it easy to break things, but also easy to fix things.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Camacha

[19chickens]

My school still uses 7 as the main OS (180+ computers), and when I tried to look for an application I ended up trying to open the windows 8 Charm bar.

It also gets a bit repetitive when it keeps asking me "tap to choose what to do to this SD card" on a laptop without touchscreen.

I really hope they put Cortana in 10.

[Woopert]

I'm excited that they're making a new and improved version of Windows, but I really hate when people bash about Windows 8 (.1). I've been using Windows 8.1 for nearly a year now with little to no problems. It's much faster to boot up and transfer files than Windows 7, and the icons look much cleaner. Windows 7 has a bunch of shadows everywhere and it doesn't look all that slick.

My cousin bought Windows 7 for a brand new computer which really makes me sad, I don't know why people love their Windows 7 so much. But, whatever makes you happy.. (slow processes and load-up in this case )

[AngelLestat]

Windows 8 was a fantastic version really, just a massive brainfart on the UI.

W10 is rectifying it. The naming is purely a clever marketing ploy to generate talk about it.

I dont use the windows 8 personally, but I had my hands on it many time , I am agree with you.

Microsoft never wroke their fate rule about versions.. good, bad, good, bad, good, bad.... since first windows version to now. (maybe for that they called 10, because they know that if this is good, there is not chance to make another good version later for its real 10)

What I really hate from W7, is that it takes like 7 min to reboot.

But well, there is not so many options lateley with OS. Take a look on Unix with their recent bash exploit.

Edited October 6, 2014 by AngelLestat

[Nuke]

Nothing wrong with tried and tested tools, I use the Command Prompt and Procmon on a regular basis along with several other classic tools. Not much wrong with the new stuff either, its a matter of picking the right tool for the job.

Personally I like the return of low level control and access, as that was one of the great things about DOS and the DOS based GUI's. It makes it easy to break things, but also easy to fix things.

also the os was small so if you needed to spin up a custom boot disk you could, i kinda do this with sd cards sometimes but its pretty much limited to ancient operating systems that can fit on a couple of gigs. i also do this with my rasberry pi, since i have 2 or 3 chips that i alternate based on what im doing. i also have freedos installed on a cf card (which pretty much has the same interface as ide) in a legacy pata port, which i use for old dos games. i had a baremetalos chip too, but there isnt a whole lot you can do with that, and there is no software to run.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Nuke

[mrwinesauce]

I am just glad the Start Menu returns. A program launcher does not need to fill the entire screen everytime it's launched.

[Camacha]

I am just glad the Start Menu returns. A program launcher does not need to fill the entire screen everytime it's launched.

I must say that seeing the Start Menu again reminded me of how unpolishing it actually was. Endless hovering and menu inside menu and when you accidentally went outside the menu you could start over again. I am not really looking forward to that. Using the full screen seems more efficient and less frustrating.

We'll see. I hope they fixed those problems.

Edited October 8, 2014 by Camacha