Ger_space

[1.2.2 & 1.3 & 1.4 & 1.5] Kerbin-Side continued 1.4.5 [05.11.2018]

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I have terrible freezes when I look at Kerbin-Side Kampus. When it is not installed or I don't look at it - no freezes.
I have i5-4460, GTX 1070 6Gb and 16Gb RAM

Do I need to provide some data for debugging?

KSP v1.3.1.1891
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Is KSC2 available in the skyways pack? If not, does the one on the original thread work with 1.3.x?

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On 9/14/2017 at 6:39 PM, Ger_space said:

Hmm, I never tested this, so I guess no. What is this multiplier? Some stock setting? Sorry I'm currently not on my pc and haven't played ksp for quite some time (except modding) 

In the advanced settings menu, there is a slider for the Deep Space Network. The default range is very far, and I prefer to limit it so it only just reaches the mun. 

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Is it safe to install this in a saved game? I don't have any ships on terrain, just orbiting relays.

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8 hours ago, Agustin said:

Is it safe to install this in a saved game? I don't have any ships on terrain, just orbiting relays.

Is shouldn't break anything.

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Great I installed the performance mode and it is great. I also like very much the option to actually go once to the base that want to be openes. It gives me a motive to fly around Earth and discover places I'd never went before... And then launch from the north pole or konstruct anything anywhere.. uasfaskuashd I  am loving this mod, it is great

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[EDIT: SOLVED]

HEEEEEY Big problem. My home base runway and launchpads seem to be mistaken by some other base and I can't launch from my original base... Weird?... I have selected the go to there to open setting, and launch from everywhere as well... In 1.3.... Is this known bug or should I provide more information and logs? Maybe it's a known issue?

I have kerbin side kampus and skyways only installed.

EDIT: Dull Spot opens instead of runway and launchpad of ksc. Like it's overwritten.... Even in the SPH when i click on KK and try to select these two, Dull spot is selected instead (in the selected launchsite menu, and I don't even have it opened, so it is weirder that it takes me there...)

EDIT 2: Now I went to the settings of KK, unchecked the launch anywhere option, and it now selects the correct runway, but can't click on select this launchsite, or make it as default.... so I can't launch from my home runway still!

EDIT 3: Ok I think it solved itself now. I went and opened DullSpot and everythings seems okay maybe that fixed it? 

 

Edited by Agustin

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I'm also getting huge lag spikes looking at the Space Center and other Kerbin Side buildings. When looking at them (Mainly the KSC) My ram usage maxes

I got 16gb, a i5 7600k and a gtx 1060 6gb.

I can provide a mod list and more debugging info if needed.

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Hello, @ger_space , how automatic gate works? The automatic barrier is always open, but I can see the animation when placed into the world. Is it somehow working, or is it static as any other building? Maybe this should be question to kerbal konstruct, since I'm not sure if the automatic gateway is from this mode or Konstructs.

Thanks
Ave! Toonu

 

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where is that cfg patch that adds kerbin side runways info to the nav utilities mod?
EDIT: Nevermind, found them on navUtilities Continued thread.

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Thanks for maintaining this mod.

I just wanted to ask, if there are any plans on making this compatible with rescaled kerbin systems, for those of us who play with earth-sized Kerbolsystems (rescale 10.625).

I am aware of the positioning-problem. I just would love to see KerbinSide and Rescale to be compatible.

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is there any way to select my opened bases in career mode for just general viewing purposes without having to launch something from that site? (i.e. like how i can view the normal KSC)

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7 hours ago, Hs.Panda said:

is there any way to select my opened bases in career mode for just general viewing purposes without having to launch something from that site? (i.e. like how i can view the normal KSC)

Not yet. I was banging my head several times to find a way to move the space center camera, but I've not found a working solution for it. 

If someone had a idea, I'm happy to implement it.

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9 hours ago, Ger_space said:

Not yet. I was banging my head several times to find a way to move the space center camera, but I've not found a working solution for it. 

If someone had a idea, I'm happy to implement it.

oh well, thx anyway.... also one thing i noticed not sure if you're aware or not? the boat launch on KSC island spawns things slightly inside the hill, causing them to "bounce" upwards ontop of the ground once fully loaded, it's not that big of a concern, i just turn on "no crash damage" before launch so it doesn't destroy anything but felt it worth mentioning?

is there any more boat launch sites? i didn't see any in the list? mostly just carriers or runways next to water? though i'm still checking out all the different start spots so i might have missed one?

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5 hours ago, Hs.Panda said:

oh well, thx anyway.... also one thing i noticed not sure if you're aware or not? the boat launch on KSC island spawns things slightly inside the hill, causing them to "bounce" upwards ontop of the ground once fully loaded, it's not that big of a concern, i just turn on "no crash damage" before launch so it doesn't destroy anything but felt it worth mentioning?

is there any more boat launch sites? i didn't see any in the list? mostly just carriers or runways next to water? though i'm still checking out all the different start spots so i might have missed one?

there are multiple boat launches within SM Marine statics pack. you will find the download in the SM Marine pack.

I never used the boat launch, Ill check it and try to fix it as soon as I can. Thanks for the report.

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chiming in to verify some lag around KSC. Specifically the kampus. Any time it's on screen I get major FPS dips.

I'm running a FX-6300 CPU and a GTX 1050Ti GPU and have very few other mods running

 

Side note, I've noticed all the other people who reported this issue were on 10 series Nvidia cards as well, connection maybe?

Side side note, I keep load graphs visible on my second monitor at all times and during these FPS dips I checked the graphs and the CPU was at 80% load and the GPU at 70%. Neither was peaked yet FPS was plummeting. Not sure what exactly that means, but it's something.

 

I'm going to run a test build and start cropping some buildings while checking load and FPS, I'll report any findings or lack thereof in an hour or so.

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Nailed it.

"Terraced Housing" and to a lesser extent "Apartment Building".

 

Specifically it's the shadow calculation that's bogging down, which would explain why the 10 series cards feel it so hard. Tested by spawning and deleting multiple instances of various potential culprits on various graphics settings and culling distances. Looks like it's just the sheer number of objects in close proximity to one another and casting shadows on each other that's overloading what the engine can readily handle. I'd suggest swapping the models for some low-poly versions. Until then my stopgap will just be to just cull them from my game; I've never fully filled one apartment complex, much less four so it won't be an issue for me.

 

PS: slight afterthought, the one person who submitted their modlist had EVE in there, which I also have. That mod is quite shader-intensive, so it might just be too much load on one specific module, in this case shadow calculation. I dunno, really just speculating at this point and too busy to test into further detail.

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On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 11:30 AM, Ger_space said:

Not yet. I was banging my head several times to find a way to move the space center camera, but I've not found a working solution for it. 

If someone had a idea, I'm happy to implement it.

Create an object that gets categorized as a ground asset you can access and bolt it to the middle of the bases.  That will at least give you a work-around.

 

Beyond that, KSC is a scene.  If there's some way to dig into the KSC scene and nest it down, you might be able to create a hierarchy that has even-footing with KSC.  Once you can establish multiple location scenes, you should be able to select the camera default location.

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Two questions for @Ger_space,

I'm planning to do some exploration into making Kerbin-Side compatible with KSS, since I'm not sure who else other than me is interested.  (I don't think it's either your responsibility or StarCrusher's to do so, since you each have your own lives to live, and all.  :) ) I'm pretty sure I know what needs to be updated and how to go about it, but wanted to check.

First: The Lat/Long seem to be okay for everything, but the elevations are off with the mod's heightmap.  Within a given structure's config file, which number refers to elevation?  (And as a part two, is that value in Meters, or something else?)

Second: Assuming I'm not the only one interested in using KSS and Kerbin-Side at the same time, and assuming I'm able to complete this project in a reasonable time, would you be okay with me making the updates available to others?

Thank you for taking up maintenance of this mod!  I've enjoyed it for quite a while, and look forward to using it more!

EDIT: On further investigation, I found the Kerbal Konstruct's internal editor, which will make repositioning a piece of cake.  Therefore, I won't need to mess with the config files.

So, the first question is moot.  :)  However, I am still curious if I can make my alterations available to others if they so wish.

Edited by RobFalcon
Update based on Investigation

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Nothing against the mod. I love it so far. but personally I find kerbin a bit crowded in map view. is there any way to disable/remove some of the launch sites? I think personally I would like 6 launch sites or so; 4 around the equator and 1 on each pole.

 

perhaps a 'lite version' with only the more.."important" launch sites compared to a full release?

 

just wondering

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Is there a version suited to 6.4x sigma rescale? Maybe a config file? Is there a way to do it myself if not? Lastly I have noticed that kerbinside campus in the ckan download appears to not have light towers around the ksc like the screenshot.

Edited by TachyonGMZ

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Well, I've been messing around with Kerbin-Side of late, so I might be able to suggest a thing or two.

@Jesusthebird

The way I would go about this is;
      First: Go into KSP and determine which bases you want to keep.
      Second: Go to you GameData/KerbinSide/MainBases folder.  Each base has its own folder, by name.  Delete the bases you don't want.

I do this frequently with the KSC Upgrades.  They're okay, but I prefer keeping the KSC stock (especially with a career mode).

@TachyonGMZ

I can't speak with regards to 6.4x Sigma (I don't use it), it's not impossible to adjust bases yourself.  I've been doing that over the last few days with KSS (which modifies Kerbin a fair amount).

If you go to the base you want to alter (with a Kerbal or a probe) and hit Ctrl+K, you'll open up the Kerbal Konstruct interface.  You can then go structure by structure and move them as you want.

The original thread for Kerbal Konstructs has tutorials on how to do various things.  It's a little outdated, but it's helped me in my endeavors.  I will post it below.

 

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