[1.12.X] RealChute Parachute Systems v1.4.8.3 | 24/01/21

EthanKerbman · July 23, 2014

On my part, yes, so far I've only reproduced it with symmetry (and confirmed that it's solved once you strip symmetry), I had another instance without symmetry but with so many other mods and under such circumstances that 1) I'm not sure it's exactly the same bug and 2) I don't think RealChutes was the problem in that instance.

Cerebrate · July 23, 2014

Can you all confirm that this only happens with chutes used in symmetry?

I haven't seen it happen with only nose/stack chutes. I haven't yet tried using only a single radial chute/multiple radial chutes applied without symmetry, but I'll give it a try when I get back from dinner.

-c

Castun · July 23, 2014

Update your version of RealChutes, and delete the old folder in the process. I was experiencing the same issue. (Essentially the CoM gets "misplaced"). The problem actually happens at 6KM for me, and gets worse every additional 6KM -- odd, but I think it's due to some sort of universe offloading that happens at that altitude (aka Krakensbane).
While the update fixes the COM issue for me, I'm experiencing an issue where I get NullReferenceException spam as soon as I hit that altitude while Realchutes is installed -- so some portion of the original problem still remains. The problem goes away if Realchutes is removed (same vessel). Occurs on both 32-bit and 64-bit builds (though my 64-bit build is now crashing as soon as starting or resuming a game due to another mod, so I'm not touching it at the moment.)

Can also confirm. Was having rapid unplanned disassembly at 6 KM, built a new rocket from scratch and it doesn't fall apart now, but there is still NullRefException spam.

FlexGunship · July 23, 2014

Okay the log files are pointing to something.
Can you all confirm that this only happens with chutes used in symmetry?

My rocket did have chutes in symmetry. Yes.

stupid_chris · July 23, 2014

Okay, hopefully this does it for good. Another hotfix, v1.2.2.2

Changelog:

July 22nd 2014 (take two)
v1.2.2.2
*Hotfix*
-Hopefully last fix to the symmetry bug

I'd gather this fixes it definitely. It's as if every fix to a bug I applied triggered a new one <.<

That said, cheers all!

UAL002 · July 23, 2014

Im on 1.2.2.1 and just had my first COM bug in a while. At time of COM movement, I had 2 real-chutes radials, on a rocket comprised of nearly all HGR parts. I'm pretty sure I applied symmetry settings correctly. Any advice, need anything from me? Not even sure it was realchutes that caused it yet.

EDIT: HA, nevermind, I should update to 1.2.2.2. Ill report back if it continues. Cheers.

stupid_chris · July 23, 2014

Im on 1.2.2.1 and just had my first COM bug in a while. At time of COM movement, I had 2 real-chutes radials, on a rocket comprised of nearly all HGR parts. I'm pretty sure I applied symmetry settings correctly. Any advice, need anything from me? Not even sure it was realchutes that caused it yet.
EDIT: HA, nevermind, I should update to 1.2.2.2. Ill report back if it continues. Cheers.

I cannot tell without logs.

Also, I'd just like to give some huge thanks to whoever sent me this huge donation. You know who you are, and I hope you read this, and thank you. That was not necessary, but your support means the world to me, and it sure did light up my day to see such an act of kindness.

Also it kinda did hurt my jaw as I picked it up from the floor.

kanelives · July 23, 2014

Yeah here's logs from me too in case it helps. It was a command pod with a sas and the small solid, nothing is installed besides realchutes.

[LOG 22:22:36.454] Untitled Space Craft loaded!
[LOG 22:22:38.345] putting ship to ground: 6.371297
[LOG 22:22:38.351] [Untitled Space Craft]: Ready to Launch - waiting to start physics...
[LOG 22:22:38.360] Crewmember Bill Kerman assigned to Command Pod Mk1, seat # 0 (crew seat index: 0)
[LOG 22:22:38.361] [FLIGHT GLOBALS]: Switching To Vessel Untitled Space Craft ---------------------- 
[LOG 22:22:38.363] setting new dominant body: Kerbin
FlightGlobals.mainBody: Kerbin
[LOG 22:22:38.365] Reference Frame: Rotating
[LOG 22:22:38.385] stage manager resuming...
[LOG 22:22:38.387] Vessel assembly complete!
[LOG 22:22:38.387] stage manager starting...
[LOG 22:22:38.387] all systems started
[LOG 22:22:38.441] [RealChute]: RealChute Radial Chute #1 Scale: 3.032447
[LOG 22:22:38.456] [RealChute]: RealChute Radial Chute #1 Scale: 3.032447
[EXC 22:22:38.461] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[WRN 22:22:41.352] [CurrencyWidgetsApp]: No live widgets to Despawn!
[LOG 22:22:41.356] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Untitled Space Craft
[LOG 22:22:41.756] Flight State Captured
[LOG 22:22:41.756] Saving Achievements Tree...
[LOG 22:22:41.767] Game State Saved as persistent
[LOG 22:22:43.133] [Untitled Space Craft]: ground contact! - error: 0.159m
[LOG 22:22:43.133] Unpacking Untitled Space Craft
[LOG 22:23:24.514] activating stage 1 - current stage: 2
[LOG 22:23:24.515] [solidBooster]: Activated
[LOG 22:23:24.516] [00:00:00]: Liftoff!!
[LOG 22:23:25.639] [Progress Node Reached]: AltitudeRecord
[LOG 22:23:25.674] [Progress Node Reached]: FirstLaunch
[LOG 22:23:25.674] [Progress Node Complete]: FirstLaunch
[LOG 22:24:01.558] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Untitled Space Craft
[LOG 22:24:01.569] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Untitled Space Craft
[LOG 22:24:05.309] Camera Mode: AUTO
[LOG 22:24:17.307] [VesselSpawner]: New object found!
[LOG 22:24:40.099] [00:02:48]: Command Pod Mk1 collided into the surface.
[LOG 22:24:40.100] mk1pod Exploded!! - blast awesomeness: 0.5
[LOG 22:24:40.124] [mk1pod]: Deactivated
[LOG 22:24:40.138] [00:02:48]: Bill Kerman was killed.
[LOG 22:24:40.141] [00:02:48]: RealChute Radial Chute collided into the surface.
[LOG 22:24:40.141] [Explosion] Combined.
[LOG 22:24:40.141] RC.radial Exploded!! - blast awesomeness: 0.5
[LOG 22:24:40.141] [RC.radial]: Deactivated
[LOG 22:24:40.142] [00:02:48]: Inline Advanced Stabilizer collided into the surface.
[LOG 22:24:40.142] [Explosion] Combined.
[LOG 22:24:40.142] advSasModule Exploded!! - blast awesomeness: 0.5
[LOG 22:24:40.144] [advSasModule]: Deactivated
[LOG 22:24:40.144] [00:02:48]: RT-10 Solid Fuel Booster collided into the surface.
[LOG 22:24:40.145] [Explosion] Combined.
[LOG 22:24:40.145] solidBooster Exploded!! - blast awesomeness: 0.5
[LOG 22:24:40.145] [solidBooster]: Deactivated
[LOG 22:24:40.228] 1 explosions created.
[LOG 22:24:40.229] Packing Untitled Space Craft Debris for orbit
[LOG 22:24:45.822] Reference Frame: Inertial
[LOG 22:25:04.163] [FlightGlobals]: Active Vessel is dead. Saving not impossile but not advisable unless leaving flight.
[WRN 22:25:10.360] [FlightPersistence]: Vessel Untitled Space Craft not saved because it was dead.
[LOG 22:25:10.366] Flight State Captured
[LOG 22:25:10.367] Saving Achievements Tree...
[LOG 22:25:10.393] Game State Saved as persistent
[LOG 22:25:10.394] Game Paused!
[WRN 22:26:47.924] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From FLIGHT to SPACECENTER =====================
[LOG 22:26:49.188] Progress data not uploaded because Game Settings disallow it.
[LOG 22:26:49.381] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Kerbin
[LOG 22:26:50.558] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'SettingsWindow' from assembly 'RealChute'
[LOG 22:26:50.845] getObtAtUT result is NaN! UT: 535.085999450672
[LOG 22:26:50.845] ObT : NaN
M : NaN
E : NaN
V : NaN
Radius: NaN
vel: [NaN, NaN, NaN]
AN: [-0.540024924226309, 0.841649024958961, 0]
period: 0

[WRN 22:26:50.845] [OrbitDriver Warning!]: Untitled Space Craft Debris had a NaN Orbit and was removed.
[LOG 22:26:50.847] getObtAtUT result is NaN! UT: 535.085999450672
[LOG 22:26:50.847] ObT : NaN
M : NaN
E : NaN
V : NaN
Radius: NaN
vel: [NaN, NaN, NaN]
AN: [-0.540024924226309, 0.841649024958961, 0]
period: 0

[WRN 22:26:50.847] [OrbitDriver Warning!]: Untitled Space Craft Debris had a NaN Orbit and was removed.
[LOG 22:26:58.534] Flight State Captured
[LOG 22:26:58.535] Saving Achievements Tree...
[LOG 22:26:58.540] Game State Saved as persistent
[WRN 22:26:58.540] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From SPACECENTER to MAINMENU =====================
[LOG 22:26:59.584] [RealChute]: Saved settings file.

stupid_chris · July 23, 2014

That's not the right log, but update to v1.2.2.2 it should fix it.

ArcFurnace · July 23, 2014

Just blindly put two radial chutes on a rocket using symmetry, and they worked properly. Encouraging, because when I did that before installing 1.2.2.2 I only got one functioning parachute.

Starwaster · July 23, 2014

Okay, hopefully this does it for good. Another hotfix, v1.2.2.2
Changelog:
July 22nd 2014 (take two)
v1.2.2.2
*Hotfix*
-Hopefully last fix to the symmetry bug
I'd gather this fixes it definitely. It's as if every fix to a bug I applied triggered a new one <.<
That said, cheers all!

Been there, done that, got the bruises on my forehead from banging my head repeatedly against the desk whilst whimpering like a small feral creature....

trnt · July 23, 2014

Thanks for quick bugfix! I've been testing 1.2.2.2, and it seems there's no symmetry bug, no revert/load bug, and no new bug found(at least in my test).

tg626 · July 23, 2014

V1.2.1 I think.

Curious problem tonight. Typical Apollo style mission, landed and returned to orbit. Switched to csm which has a stack parachute below its doing port.

As soon as the craft loads, it appears that the parachute freezes in place and the rest of the csm flies on in orbit. The camera view then acts like its on an elastic being stretched between the frozen parachute and the moving csm. The parachute disappears from the staging too.

Does this sound familiar? Or have I found something new? I'm posting this tonight, but don't have time to update to 1.2.2.2 tonight.... I'm just wondering if the update will fix this or if the mission is hosed....

Starwaster · July 23, 2014

V1.2.1 I think.
Curious problem tonight. Typical Apollo style mission, landed and returned to orbit. Switched to csm which has a stack parachute below its doing port.
As soon as the craft loads, it appears that the parachute freezes in place and the rest of the csm flies on in orbit. The camera view then acts like its on an elastic being stretched between the frozen parachute and the moving csm. The parachute disappears from the staging too.
Does this sound familiar? Or have I found something new? I'm posting this tonight, but don't have time to update to 1.2.2.2 tonight.... I'm just wondering if the update will fix this or if the mission is hosed....

Nope, not new. Read what people are posting next time before posting. Read the front page and the change log to see what was being changed and why. Empower yourself.

And yes, your mission is hosed barring you manually editing your save file AFTER updating to 1.2.2.2

It would be easier for you to send up a rescue craft to pull off the crew and recover any science they have.

stupid_chris · July 23, 2014

What Starwaster said. Editing your save file could work, but it might be very complex depending on how advanced you are and how complex your craft is.

stupid_chris · July 23, 2014

Oh also people, I just added RealChute to KerbalStuff, I highly suggest you support this project

Cheers!

Cerebrate · July 23, 2014

Just confirming that 1.2.2.2 works great for me now, symmetry and all. And, of course, to say thanks for the fast fix, end-user-wise, @stupid_chris! My re-entries wouldn't be the same without your mod.

-c

Virtualgenius · July 23, 2014

Thanks Kris for supporting kerbalstuff and for putting your hard work into realchutes I really appreciate it, as I belive your time is split between a few major projects as well as moderating

EthanKerbman · July 23, 2014

Fixed for me as far as I've tested yet, thanks stupid_chris.

stupid_chris · July 23, 2014

It's really good to be reading theses

Have fun guys!

Simplicity · July 23, 2014

Oh also people, I just added RealChute to KerbalStuff, I highly suggest you support this project
Cheers!

Yup, already done that yesterday - Will be keeping a close eye on that, nice to see you added the link to it in your OP...

Mavzor · July 23, 2014

If install RealChutes on my vessel I get pulled sideways in flight. Sometimes the vessel shoots out of the screen, camera points in midair! No errors in debug window. (v1.2.2.1 / .24 / x64 / Win7)

Identical version setup, similar problems.

Attempted a 'strip back' of mods.

Only KW. Same problems.

Strange krakens will start affecting my ships. Sometimes just a short mission, just high kerbin orbit.

No inputs. Camera loses focus, Begins moving wildly in space with 20+ G forces.

Ship eventually breaks apart.

Removed realchute last thinking 'this wont have any affect, im not in atmo'

Realchute was the cause.

Have since loaded back up on 20+ mods, no gyrating, no krakens.

Sarayakat · July 23, 2014

Regarding Mavzor's problem. I had the same thing happen 2 versions back (a few days ago that is). As near as I could tell it was the 6 death Kraken as described on the wiki page. I too struggled with it as I had a few other mods. I removed realchutes as an experiment having read an old post from 2013 by a person ascribing a similar issue to realchutes. Having nothing to lose I removed the mod and my problem went away. I relate this as it seems to be a problem once fixed has returned! I hope that helps in tracking it down as I love this mod. I will reinstall this latest vers and get back to you if anything changes. Thx for all your hard work, stupid!

EDIT: I reinstalled,started a sandbox, went to VAB, clicked on a radial chute and ctd. Deinstalled, restarted, loaded up my career and the first rocket I went to was untethered from the camera, drifted away and way destroyed by heavy G's. Is there a way to undo the changes this mod made short of reinstalling everything? I had to do that last time and I am not looking forward to it.

Edited July 23, 2014 by Sarayakat

EthanKerbman · July 23, 2014

Update to 1.2.2.2, that's what it's here for.

Pulsar · July 23, 2014

Chutes work properly, no symmetry errors. Thank you very much Stupid_Chris!

[1.12.X] RealChute Parachute Systems v1.4.8.3 | 24/01/21

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