JedTech

Great idea. I vote for renaming the thread.

I've been doing something like this for my recent saves as well. The first of career mode feels really grinding.

Oh no, this would cause wide spread sand castle making on an insane scale. Who can cover the Mun in sand castles?

Cool design!

I've seen some of your stock designs, i think.. 6/10

Sounds like that Rover just made its last successful reentry. The new atmosphere and heating effects aren't going to allow for that kind of thing any more. #mixedfeelings

Thanks for being the driving force of the most awsome challenge in KSP. Looking forward to seeing how 1.0 affects the challenge.

Caught myself thinking they should land on Venus's moon.... "wait what is the Gilly equivalent? Oh ya.. there isn't one." Gave myself a laugh. Too much KSP I guess. That said, I'm in favor of a manned Phobos mission. Hopefully with the intent of sticking a permanent laboratory there.

So excited that scientists can clean experiments in 1.0! That will make this challenge alot more compelling for me. (never liked having to return a science laboratory to the ground)

No one has ever visted Dres: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/114169-This-is-why-no-one-visits-Dres "Some people do claim to have visited it, perhaps even multiple times. But those people are lying."

I'm not entirely sure which crowd squad is trying to please with the new aerodynamics. I'm thinking that the newbies will find it hard, and the realism folks will install FAR. Don't they have use cases and user persona's? If they did, I doubt this feature would have been implemented as described.

Then: Pod + Fuel Tank + Engine = Go to Space today Now: Ooops, I turned too early and everything blew up.

I hope that the advanced aerodynamics don't become a stumbling block to kids wanting to learn about orbital mechanics. I know I didn't buy this game because I wanted an aerodynamics simulator.

In PartCatalog you can choose a "Manufacturer" and then further drill down by part type, resource type and so on.

I totally agree with your point that mods can and will evolve to co-exist with new features. Any analogy is going to break down at some point.. but I think the endangered animal analogy holds against your scrutiny: There is nothing to say that endangered animals can't evolve to co-exist with others in their niche. Just because something is endangered, doesn't mean it will go extinct. - - - Updated - - - Loving @sarbian's reaction!

Of course Modders know this. Did I ever put that to question? I'm not complaining about new features. I just wanted to open a discussion about how to keep Mods we love relevant as KSP evolves. For some reason this topic seems to offend a lot of people.

PartCatalog can make it, don't let go! Don't walk towards the light!! Come back to us! You were the best part organizer we've ever had

I do miss the continuous updates to Fine Print, and also to PorkJet's works. It's funny how those mods were given life in some sense, but died in another sense.

That sounds concerning. I haven't heard about this topic. I'd like to learn more.

Do you think we should remove Karbonite from the list? Thanks, already done actually

I apologize for any P1ss that you may have encountered. I'd rather not make any judgements toward the quality of stock features. But I do want to make a endangered mod list based on Mods who's niches are being encroached on by stock features. When a niche that an animal occupies is encroached upon by a new species to the area, the species is endangered or at least threatened in some way by the new species. That said, I would love suggestions to reword my post so as to offend less and accomplish more of my two thread goals.

I think we can all agree that Blizzy's toolbar belongs on my "endangered" list. I think it will remain relevant (for now) as it provides extra functionality that stock does not yet provide.

Great input everyone, thanks! I'd really like to accomplish these 2 items with this thread: 1. Create a list of Mods that may be endangered by stock features 2. Start a discussion on how we can keep these quality mods relevant as KSP progresses.

There are several high quality Mods that I love which are beginning to shares niches with stock features. I think it's great that stock KSP has expanded in these directions! The future of some of these mods is uncertain. In some cases, development on these wonderful mods may be slowed or CANCELED all together . But in many cases, I think these mods can still add value to KSP and the KSP community. I am endeavoring to create a list of Mods that are beginning to share niches with stock features. Please let us know how you think these Mods can remain relevant as KSP continues to progress! Mods sharing a partial to full niche with Stock: Anatid Robotics / MuMech - MechJeb (LC) Ferram Aerospace Research (NT) Toolbar (VU) Deadly Reentry (VU) Procedural Fairings(EN) Zero-Point Inline Fairings (EN) Kethane (EN) DDSLoader (CR) PartCatalog (EW) Legend (modified from Wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_status) Extinct (EX) – No longer available for download Extinct in the wild (EW) – Known only to be in use in older versions of KSP Critically endangered (CR) – Extremely high risk of extinction in the wild. Endangered (EN) – High risk of extinction in the wild. Vulnerable (VU) – High risk of endangerment in the wild. Near threatened (NT) – Likely to become endangered in the near future. Least concern (LC) – Lowest risk. Does not qualify for a higher risk category. I'd really like to accomplish these 2 items with this thread: Create a list of Mods which are beginning to share niches with Stock Features Start a discussion on how we can keep these quality-mods relevant as KSP progresses.

You have a good point there. Maybe their approval ratings have dropped so low that they needed a way to limit our complaining.