LordFerret

I don't know where you're getting that idea from, but I'll say it again... it's not what the research is showing. Average SAT Scores Over Time: 1972 - 2017 - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/ This is further supported in the ACT report... https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/cccr2017/P_99_999999_N_S_N00_ACT-GCPR_National.pdf I think you're confused by the change in the SAT overhaul, what's been done, what it means... Old SAT vs. New SAT (2016) -and- https://eric.ed.gov/?q=""&ff1=souCollege+Board&ff2=subScores&id=ED581513 Maybe it's time you post some resources for me, something for me to go look up and cross-check. Are you an educator, or do you work in education or with educators? Here, knock yourself out... https://research.collegeboard.org/topics While it was my generation which invented this stuff, it was also my generation which tried to warn early on about its misuse and the idea of letting sales and marketing goons run off with it. For knowledge on that, you'll have do look back and do some serious historical digging. Bottom line however - they were right. It has nothing to do with our not learning enough of it. The internet has turned out to be the same great promise that was claimed of early cable tv. I'm sure someone out there in my age group understands that one.

“More landers. More science. More exploration. More prospectors. More commercial partners.” - NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine (from Canopus's link above) To me this says more than just doing science. To me this says staking a claim on the moon, mining it, and profiting from it. Didn't the world in general (UN) have some manner of agreement this wasn't going to happen?... or has all that gone out the window.

Yes. The topic of this thread. Kids are not more social these days, and the research shows it. If anything, thanks largely in part to cellphones and the web, kids have become more detached, both from the family unit and socially in general. More and more it is being found that, when put together face to face, they're lacking the necessary social skills to communicate effectively, both out in public and within the home (family unit). Much research has been done on this, and much has been published on the matter as well... Google Scholar is your friend here. Here's a fact for you to ponder. While not the 'first' cellphone, the iPhone was released in 2007. A study conducted and reported in 2017 on national average SAT scores (data gathered from 1970 through 2016), showed a sharp decline in SAT scores nationally beginning in 2006. And, to date, it is not getting any better. If anything, the study is showing the combined overall effect of family-values dissolution, and the failure of things like multiculturalism, forced ethnic diversity, and lastly socioeconomic differences, to be rooted in poorly implemented technologies. It appears that today, every negative issue educators are facing is centered about things 'social', the cellphone and internet. Now we're trying to computerize teaching, and not having had control of this technology to start with, the outcome is specious. Times change, what is right does not. What we have today is nothing the likes of what family life was like in the 1900's let alone the 1950's; All one has to do is study a little history on the era, and you will see that family life was very different. The mindsets in the family structure were different (gender roles), as were social and educational and work ethics. These things however, were the very 'stuff' of what made us excel... but today, people refuse to see that. Talking to and being closer to 'friends' will never be better than family, being centered on friends does provide any experienced role models. Yes, there's nothing like 'free range' children, self-raised, who grow up without morality, character, or values ... we see them hanging out with nothing better to do all over the place. I would ask you, from whom have you learned more about life, and how to live, your friends or your family?

You would be very surprised to find the early uses PCs were put to when they first came out, in industry (manufacturing, process control, etc)... something I was involved with. Small business on the accounting side of things... something I avoided like the plague. Gaming... a thing I did for entertainment, never even thinking once of wasting time to develop a game. Education... over 12 years working in the pharmaceutical industry, starting in 84 right after the blossom of the PC, lab research systems and product literacy training systems, all done on early laptops (if you could call Compaq's first 30lb portable a laptop). And we did all of this stuff with 640k memory, and 5-1/4" floppy discs, and 1200baud modems (then 14.4's) which were lightening fast compared to 300baud. If we had what you have now .......... And I'll have to throw this in... The only thing this great network speed has brought us, is advertising. I don't have a link to quote, but last I'd heard, over 80% of the bandwidth used on the net is eaten by graphics-based advertising.

And despite all of this crap you're pointing out, to date (from, say, mid-1990's or about 2000 on) you've accomplished far far less than what was done in the 60's and 70's... despite all of those advances. (And by 'you', I don't mean you personally)

I hate to tell you this, but optical data lines were developed back in the very early 1970's (late 1960's actually). Bell Telephone (which became Verizon) out in Madison NJ (Bell Labs) had an extensive early network... and they also had a 'talking' computer (early speech synthesis), first put to use internally. Fiber optics were installed into the NYC phone system in the early 1970's. An extensive nation-wide backbone followed (I don't have the date handy). Mind you: This was all BEFORE there was a PC.

It indeed is a tool, designed as such... and the internet is merely an extension of its data storage capabilities. With the advent of the PC, the computer's role as an educational tool was realized. Note the dates of the articles. Believe what you wish, reality and history speak different. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1307163/ https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758%2FBF03203770 There are so many more, but these two will suffice.

Let's go for two in one day. Baldassare Galuppi " No score survives for the seven ‘Concerti a quattro’ recorded here: they are preserved only in a set of manuscript parts in Modena’s BibliotecaEstense. "

@kerbiloid, Well, kinda sorta, yea. As far as lineups go, from what I understand (could be wrong), this Mars rover was next on the list. And Mars seemingly more the focus than the Moon, with a target date already of 2020, then yes I can see focus going there. I wonder about that south pole bit. The indication of water ice being there (Cabeus crater for instance) was considered a possibility, while water ice at the north pole was confirmed. The stated mission of this now cancelled rover was to check the feasibility of accessing said water ice. So why focus on a possible south pole while you've got a confirmed north pole? I'm sure there's an answer there somewhere. I only caught light of this because of watching money and the post popping up here.

I just put this on; Albertini, Bartolotti, Richter, and Kerll ... all in the same sitting. And now M'Lady and I sit back and have lunch, watching the birds out the window. Enjoy.

You're welcome! I love most all music (there's a few exceptions), but especially that of the Baroque & Classical periods... throw a little Renaissance in there too. Thanks to SiriusXM, I have such playing in my home nearly 24-hours a day. They have one program in particular, 'Baroque And Beyond' hosted by Robert Aubry, which I just love; They hunt down and find obscure compositions and bring them to the ear, some really marvelous stuff. There's a ton of stuff on YouTube also, but if you don't know what's there and have no clue what to search for, you lose out. One of my favorite YouTube sources is The Gravicembalo, check it out.

You really shouldn't jump to such conclusions, you have no clue as to the funds shuffling that goes on ... unless of course you sit on the board? Perhaps the funds slated for this project will instead be directed to figuring out why, and fixing, the heat shield of the Mars rover slated for 2020. http://www.ibtimes.com/mars-2020-mission-heat-shield-nasas-next-rover-cracks-during-test-2676304

Without regard to flying anything into a tornado, which apparently there are some ideas out there to use drones to kill tornadoes; Anything you send up into the air these days requires you to carry liability insurance ... model rockets, R/C planes, home built or experimental anything.

In that kind of situation, you wouldn't be relying on anything visual. More than likely, you'd be flying on instruments, remotely.

I couldn't decide. It was either something from the Goldberg Variations, or this... Telemann Either is a win.

M'Lady says both of those are yummy! She says:

I'll agree with that. I've always believed that the computer is one of the most amazing inventions as far as tools goes (same with the internet, as an extension of). However, just like any other tool, put in the wrong hands and/or used improperly does more damage than good.

Never known of any cures. I usually just ride them out, laughing. Ask me about heartburn though; I've got the cure for that.

No question, true journalism is dead.

You guys didn't read the article I posted along with my comment AT ALL, did you. " A network of 20 earth stations, interconnected with satellites, carried the TV programs to viewers in the U.S., Latin America, Europe, North Africa, Asia and Australia. " That pretty much covers the globe now doesn't it. As for memes; At best, the only purpose they serve today is to clutter up data feeds with dumb BS.

I wanted this laptop, but I couldn't get it without the touch screen. So I've disabled the screen. It was most annoying; M'Lady would come up and point at something I had on the screen, and invariably touch the screen, and 99% of the time what she touched was a link ..... and you know how the rest of it goes.

I can imagine the launch and initial landing; But I wonder about the events following, if, like the Apollo ventures, viewership trails off... unless of course something really drastic happens, like a catastrophe or existence-changing discovery (life, ancient civilization, etc). According to network statistics (if I find the link again I'll post it), a full 7% of Americans were watching something else at the time... not 'doing' something else, 'watching' something else. Edit: Found it - http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/featured/moonwalk-draws-125-million-viewers-cbs-and-cronkite-win-big/

@NSEP First moon shot was seen live by over 125 million Americans... just Americans. Total global live audience was estimated at around 600 million.

Funny you should mention that... https://uk.beanbodycare.com/

The 50's and 60's were a totally different existence. IMO, better. Current day, a particular political ideology (global infestation that it is) is hell-bent on the idea of destroying the traditional family unit (as defined by western civilization)... because their form of government knows better than you and can take care of you better than you can for yourself. As long as it survives, you'll never have that family gathered together again in the living room watching history unfold together... much less talking about it and discussing it together.