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I\'ve built up a spaceplane out ofmostly C7 parts. Its a large spaceplane, with a large engine, and it has all the fuel to reach Mun and slow down the descent like a normal lander. From there, its a large number of RCS thrusters to both keep the craft on course, and act as retros to prevent the whole thing smashing up. In my last attempt, I ran out of RCS gas, and my attempts to land with the main engines failed miserably. However, I have added yet another RCS module. What I want to know is, do you think it will make it successfully? And is it the first spaceplane on the Mun if it does? [i doubt it, but it would be interesting if it was.] EDIT - Forgot the image. >_>, fail.

I designed a VTOL, but it uses some parts not in C7. So its invalid for this.

The Sparrowhawk is a prototype single-stage orbiter, designed by Veto Aerospace for its ongoing spaceplane programme. However, due to the small size of the craft, it is presumably useless for carrying cargo, and it burns all liquid fuel to reach orbit height, then one and a half tanks of RCS gas to make orbit. Sparrowhawk TX-1 in orbit. The Sparrowhawk can successfully leave orbit again, and land safely in ocean or on land. However, its parachutes are not strong enough to carry its weight by themselves, and RCS downdraught must be used to prevent damage on impact. The Sparrowhawk after a half-orbit and landing.

Where\'s the island?

My Spirit-type spaceprobe could probably fulfill the requirements. I\'ve taken it from Kerbin to Mun into Munar orbit [not polar,] released a Stellarcom satellite [RP reason was transmitting whilst line-of-sight to Kerbin is blocked,] and returned the probe to Kerbin orbit. Where it falls down is that it can\'t fall down without exploding on impact.

Nope, just the sudden Return of the Memory regarding the fact Veto does build unreliable spaceplanes. I wonder what it would be like if I put the Storm Petrel spaceplane [without first stage] on the Mercadies 2B ascent stage.

Bear in mind the Storm Petrel is a two-stager. On the original, the RCS worked fine, but the spaceplane was highly unstable. On the \'Aeronaut\' variant, the pontoons make the entire vessel unstable.

Best indications are, its caused by the pontoons. Hopefully there\'s a landing gear that can take it, or at the very least act as a buffer, since with four parachutes, the craft now falls slow enough not to explode violently as soon as it hits water. Land, however, may be a different story.

I suppose you have to take into account the fact that the Storm Petrel summoned less lift from its wings, and carried an orbital insertion engine that just made it spin around. Veto may also begin work on a spaceplane that is capable of air and space flight. Perhaps will be tough. Probable solution: use six-point-symmetry with engine mount wings. Fit aerothrusters to all of them. Make that first stage. Make second stage look like a plane. Fly it in space, fly it in air. Hopefully simples.

Veto Aerospace will be working on a larger spaceplane cockpit as soon as its sorted out the roll problems with the SPA.

Eh. I\'m happy enough shooting dogfighters with that Predator space cannon I put into orbit. No need for unreliable spacepl... oh, wait...

No, but for a while I was adding fuel tanks and unnescersary satellites [you can see then in the first picture] to try and get it right. Eventually I just added two small boosters with mini SAS units on them. Worked a treat, but I had to make that one to make way for landing gear.

I managed to get the Storm Petrel to glide over a mountain before crashing into another one. I think gliding is a little overated here, because it encourages underestimation. And underestimation was only ever a good thing when arrogant aggressive people got socked in the face by the underdog.

Exactly right... except not really. I used the 3-point symmetry for three of the lower stage wings, and mirror-symmetry forthe other two. Then it was just a matter of adding SAS, fuselage modules, aerothrust engines [which I recognise as retextured and edited Mechanical Mouse Industries Ion Engines.] and some fuel lines to connect them all to the central tanks. Other than that, the rest was pretty much like building any spaceplane, except you\'re trying to balance it over an area of a meter square, rather than on any number of engines, wings or lander legs you might have given it.

Named after a rugged, reliable European broad-winged seabird, the VA Storm Petrel is anything but. The Storm Petrel, a Veto Aerospace spaceplane. Specially commisioned by the KSP for a partly reusable vessel, which may at some point be used as a cargo ship; as large section of the spaceplane is given to a fuel tank which is not in use. This could easily be converted to carry freight. Unlike previous launch platforms, Veto Aerospace found it especially difficult to build a prototype. As a tailsitter launched craft, it is highly unstable during ignition, and Veto spent almost two thirds of its budget for the program on prototypes which kept falling over, or flipping back over end and crashing near the launchpad. Later tests brought problems involving the starboard aerothrusters failing before the port aerothrusters - this invariably led to the craft spinning out of control, and on only one occasion was it brought under control before crashing anyway, being too fast. The Storm Petrel in orbit. The Storm Petrel jettisons its first stage. The Storm Petrel \'Aeronaut\' type spaceplane is a variant of the Storm Petrel class of tailsitter orbital-return vehicles. It features more streamlined delta wings, more numerous and more powerful aelerons, and far more aerodynamic engines. Storm Petrel Aeronaut in orbit SPA during atmospheric descent The SPA has managed a successful landing, but only following the refit of the landing gear, using pontoons, though it is thought that these are the cause of the extreme roll instability suffered only since they and a few less significant attatchments were added. Also, an extra two parachutes were nescerssary to slow to vessel sufficiently to prevent breakup or explosion on impact. The rearmost aelerons were damaged, the rear \'chutes were jettisoned, and the craft ended upside down in the water, but was otherwise intact, and retrievable.

Ok. Though I\'ve made several rockets on Roblox, the Advantage is the only true-to-life one.

I agree. At the moment, I have the pontoons sitting fixed in the middle of my spaceplane\'s wings, because the skids are too big. Good work anyhoo.

This is what happened to my Storm Petrel spaceplane when it hit water: Here\'s it in orbit: And yours survived it?

I\'ve made several attempts at Mun missions. One was merely to get a probe to orbit and return One was more... ambitious. But it was still only the command pod, a \'smallLiquidTank\' [a mod] and a Veto X-1 Ion Drive. [intended for ferrying cargo around in outer space where gravity isn\'t a problem. Turns out its powerful enough to pick up two modules.] The landing was complicated, and there were no lander legs. Suffice to say, the engine exploded, and the fuel tank destroyed. But the capsule survived. And Veto\'s Mun mission contract was terminated.

The Mercadies line of Veto Aerospace launch vehicles are high-power cargo stacks, designed to take anything from a satellite to a spaceprobe to a small space station. Though the drive section differs from design to design, the cargo bay differs only when the height of the cargo does, and is constructed from highest grade of low grade metals available on the spaceparts market. As the cargo section is usually the same, they can be massed produced cheaply, giving a larger budget to engines, payloads, research and development. The Mercadies II B is a variant of the MII, though the only similarity between the engines is that they were intended to shuttle a Predator weapons platform into orbit. At this, the MII was spectacularly unsuccessful, leading to a long and difficult period of designing, testing and explosions, before the Merc II B was finally in its late testing stages. The Predator was successfully set into a high orbit, and at current remains there. A statement was made public that the Spirit-type Command And Control module [the remote-operated control relay section of the Spirit Project spaceprobe] had been deorbited and been allowed to burn up in the atmosphere. In truth, the CAC module had deorbited - but its twin parachutes were unable to prevent it exploding on impact [at 11.5 m/s.]

The shuttle? I called it Advantage. Though I\'ll admit I have no idea what part, if not all, of my bio you were referencing.

Please remain calm while the stewardess displays the emergency features of the Orion III, and informs you that in the event of emergency, there are no exits. Unless you don\'t mind a high speed or near-vacuum environment which you will be jumping into, along with every other passenger not wearing their seatbelt.

Not that its relavent, but I built this on Roblox: I\'m very interested in rocketry, aerospace designs, ground and water vehicles, and engineering in general. I\'ve already made a thread here about the possibility of a helium ring-balloon launch stage [hydrogen is out of the question, for its inflammability], which someone described as \'silly\'. Still, I suppose there are some who would call my ideas for a centrifugally-based helicopter or power station that bypasses the \'not-in-my-backyard\' problem \'silly\'. Anyway, I\'m British, I would describe myself as eccentric, and I\'ve managed to land a capsule on Mun as well as build a spaceprobe capable of getting to Mun, orbiting it for ages [having dumped its Ion Drive and Stellarcom Satellite] before returning to Kerbin\'s orbit. I\'ve been described as the best space RPer on Roblox [doesn\'t sound like much, but hey] and I\'ve had a go at writing a book. I gave up after about two chapters, but the point is I tried it. And I often type very long sentances. Usually, if I haven\'t, then I\'ve looked at it and said \'well, that\'s rather a mouthful, isn\'t it?\'

Shame KSP doesn\'t support launch-from-rails. Even so, Orion III definately had a second stage in the book. I think it was supposed to take Orion to the upder atmosphere, fall away, and land in the ocean while Orion went out of the atmosphere.