Schmelge

I'm not sure my kitchen table will be able to handle it though

@Theysen Jesus and A LOT of censured words that is CRAZY!!!! It fixed everything!!!!! It loads under a second now!!! You sir, is The Forum Bro of the year !!

Haha! I never thought anyone would either xD I just read the "How to ask for help" and saw that one should include - How to recreate Thanks for the tip, gonna try it right away

Hi everyone! So I have a slight issue with slow framerate. I have a couple of mods and I only have the issue in Career mode, not in sandbox mode. Every time I switch scene, either VAB, space center, tracking station, or launchpad it takes about 10-12 seconds for the scene to load. This is ok, I can live with that. However every single time when I go to launchpad, nomather from where I go before, if it's from VAB or tracking station or simply a "revert flight to launch" it takes about 30 seconds for the FPS to stabilize. It sits around 17 fps and after these 30 seconds it kicks up to 60 something. Every single time it about the same 30 seconds plus minus a second or two. If I try this in Sandbox mode in takes about 1-2 seconds for the FPS to stabilize at around 60. I don't know whats wrong but I find it very strange that it only occurs in career mode. It seems like it has nothing to do with part count, in career i used like 31 parts and in sandbox I used 110 parts. The link down below takes you to file.fm where I have output log for career and for sandbox, the ksp log and a mod version log. Also I have the screenshots there too that I post in this thread, and also I uploaded a ckan file in the same link as well as my save including shipfiles. I did not upload a save for the sandbox mode, it's a newly started one and I used the standard ships. The files How to reproduce: I guess all you really have to do is to install the mods in the list and go to launchpad. It doesn't mather if you launch a huge vessle or just a probe core. Takes the same time Really appreciate the help guys! Cheers - Schmelge

Thank you so much man!! Edit: aaand it works!! Awesome, big thanks!

Hello @nightingale ! So I have been pulling my hair all day install and re installing mods and double checking folders and cfg files, but I can't find anything wrong. The problem is that I don't get the contracts to show at all. I've read the pages in this thread from early 2016 and to last post and it seems like a bug that has been coming back many times. From what I understand the main problem is when RemoteTech releases a new version and changes some parameters. I tried my heavily modded install back an forth but no success. I also tried with a vanilla install, ckan downloaded remotetech and CP remotetech. Still no luck. I started a new career and used debug to get funds and science, so I unlocked half the tree but still no contracts showing up Tell me if you need any files or screenshots, I'll try my best to provide Cheers - Schmelge

Alright here's the last update, I found out what was causing the 25 seconds to stability on launchpad. I installed SETI meta mod pack and accidentally forgot to uncheck the remotetechconfig. That config more or less destroys the whole purpose of RemoteTech so ofcourse I don't want that. After deleting that mod I still have 10 seconds loading to launchpad as usual, same as for VAB or SpaceCenter, however only 2 seconds to stable fps now. Totally insane. This though goes for a new save. Unfortunately the config is still in my old save and I don't know how to get rid of it. Is it possible to change the save file somehow or do I just have to start over again? Maybe thats easier? Update: so it seems that I found a solution. Just replace the remotetechconfig with the standard one. Just took it from a clean save and all stations were gone. However, the fps problem is only solved in sandbox mode. I'm suspecting it's because of all the contracts. I guess that the game somehow check contract parameters each time you load a vessle. Which is kind of sad. Would be alot better if it only checked the active ones and not all avaible ones if this is how it works? In sandbox mode it takes about 1 seconds from when I see my ship on the launchpad until I have stable fps, in career it still takes about 25/30 seconds. Shame

Hi everyone! So I have a pretty big mod list, will link it below. Yes it takes long time to first load up the game, it's okay for me cause then I have time to do the dishes However, I have a strange problem going on. When I load my newly created save, I get to the space center screen, and it takes about 10 seconds for my FPS to stabilize. I have capped it to 60 cause I read somewhere that this was good for garbage handeling, if I don't cap I usually have around 120 fps. VAB works fine, it takes around 10 seconds to load and another 5 seconds to stabilize the fps but no worries there. The problem comes when I load the launch pad. it takes about 5-10 seconds to see the launch pad and there it sits at 17-18 fps for about 30 seconds and then kicks up to stable 60. Everytime, it takes around 30 seconds before FPS kicks in. I opened the debug window and it was full of messages called "mtShader is Null" it just ticket on and on with more of them. Thought that this might be the cause of the long stabilizing time for me. Closed down the game and opened my KSP log only to find that theres is like a million lines with "mtShader is Null" I kid you not, it's insane, it can be between 10 and almost up to 50 lines per second of this text. Now I'm no tech guru but it feels like this should draw performance, the game make some kind of calculation to get this message out so it must tank the cpu with it. Can anyone help me figure out this? I have absolutely minimum knowledge about these kind of things. I will provide with ksp log and output log, also I will show you my modlist. Huge thanks in advance! KSP log and Output Log Update: I have investigated further and it seems like it might have to do with HullcameraVDS. I saw that another one had the same problem in that thread. Update 2: Well, I deleted HullcameraVDS and I no longer get this error message, so thats great, and I cut around 5 seconds on the load for stable fps still 25 seconds from seeing the vessle until the fps is stable

Huge thanks for announcing the update! Really appriciated!

okay, but which of the files am I supposed to download and replace? I downloaded the zip folder from github and I still get a popup that I can download a new version. Is it the version file that is 583 bytes size that Im supposed to download? thanks

no no ! It's just like in the picture, sorry for not making sense I was just wondering if the idea was for it to actually be purple like in vanilla but for it to have the same kind of "plume" like in the pic are there engines with different colors to their plume or will all be the same color now?

By the way @Nhawks17 , while we are talking about the look of the flame, while reinstalling all mods today on a clean copy I noticed that the swivel engine usually is purple. Is it supposed to be purple with your mod installed too or is it supposed to look like it does in my picture?

well the contract if I have understood it correctly will check all the pre reqs first to see if you've done them to give you the correct info about what you have left to do in order to complete the contract. If the contract would say "no you have not done a comsat network around kerbin yet" that would be kind of strange if you actually already did So before you have accepted the contract you get to see what you have left to do in order to complete it. In this case it's basically nothing left to do except for a commsat network around minmus and no you should not have to do the network first and then accept the contract. you are supposed to be able to accept the contract anyways. ofcourse that depends on how many contracts you actually can accept. check your mission control to see if you can accept it. you can have different amounts of contracts depending on amount of stars of the contract, until you have fully upgraded. After fully upgraded you can have unlimited contracts

I'm sorry if I missunderstood anything here but the way you write, it sounds like you only have 1 sat over at minmus? I think you need at least 3 to cover a planet/moon

yup booting the game atm, takes some time, I need to see what my fps and stutter is atm I'll test it in a sec Looks like you did it

What do you mean? Can't you just switch out to a new fairing instead? Edit: Sorry I didn't see your microtext. disregard my comment

I get a couple of errors having the latest interstellarfuelswitch installed. Don't know why? is it because I have the ABZB IFS Integration Mod installed too? So I guess, this may not be the fault of IFS and ILF cause I have installed more mods and now I have 590 errors, still the same filepaths as before though. Update: so I kind of broke everything yesterday when I was installing everything manually. dont know what happened so I started over today again mixing manual with ckan. I can see that IFS and IFS core is in ckan with the correct version. But for some reason core is the only one Im able to install, IFS just goes red when I tick the checkbox. Gonna try to install IFS manually when Im done with all other mods to see if I can do it then otherwise I'll try it manually.

Still the same for me - swivel engine

Anyone know if this works with 1.4.2? Edit: Scratch my comment I'm reading the dev thread sorry!

Very true

Seeing what some modders have achieved in this community, it wouldn't surprise the slightes if someone could actually make one that does

yeah so next time you visit sweden, remember to tell me so I can buy you a beer! Awesome, thanks!

It actually never really occured to me that I could do this.... quite embarrassing tbh.. yeah I just had an argument with my wife and she told me the same thing. That I have a lot of issues xD well... it solves my whole problem. so I would say it's a good one is there a way to do this and still have steam track your ingame hours too?

Hi Snark! And thank you for a very elaborated answer! First of all I want to start with apologizing if my comment came off as ignorant and cranky, it certainly wasn't meant to if that's how it was perceived. Ofcourse I would want my mom to be taken care of the surgeon is example 2, but the same surgeon would most likely, or at least hopefully come to me after the operation and tell me - So everything went well, your mom will be okey, she will be waking up in about 1 hour so give her some time and then you can be on your way home. I would be very uncomfortable with a surgeon operating on my mom and then when he is done he just walks passed and out to the golf course. Information is always the key to everything right? At least for me, I feel more comfortable doing anything knowing as much as possible. Oh indeed there will always be bugs and I'm happy to give the one I'm purchasing a product from, time to kink them out. Yes! That's exactly what I want! I want them to tell me that the update is ready for release! If it was a vanilla install I had I wouldn't have any problems at all with how it works, but right now it's more of a surprise - "Oh I woke up this morning and now my game is updated and now I can't play anymore because of version locked mods. Of course I want a less buggy product, however, I would also want the right to chose if I want to update the game. I would like to continue to play on my older version of the game, not being forced to update it to play. I would be a very happy camper if I didn't get any notice at all about a coming update, as long as when I launch the game I get a prompt saying "Hey there is a new update! Would you like to update to our new awesome version?" Give me the choice at least, don't force it on me. It's one thing if we are talking about multiplayer games, BF, CoD, CS etc. Ofcourse the update needs to be forced because of bugs that give possibilities of exploiting the game to your own advantage etc. But in a singleplayer offline game, I should be the one to decide if and when I want to update. This is turn would give me time to wait until I see that all mod creators of the mods I use have gotten their time to update. I gave money to Squad - They gave me the right to use their product - I give them all the time they need to come with updates - They let me choose if and when I want to use the update when it's available. That, at least in my eyes, is a pretty fair deal. Okay so take for example a company that develops the main system for a bank. The bank of course uses a bunch of other systems as well. Would you as the developer Push a new release of the main system to the bank without notice and hold your thumbs that it doesn't break 50% of the other systems Or would you contact the bank manager and tell him that you have a new version ready to be tested with the other programs before it's pushed out to all the banks computer No that money should have been budgeted from the very beginning. If you plan to make a completely new product you usually plan at least roughly, "if we take this price and get this amount of sales, how long can we support the product" Squad could have, if they wanted to, just stopped working at 1.0 if they wanted to, but of course they didn't cause that would not have been very good business, you would lose a lot of your clients for when it's time for 2.0. When you get to the point that the money from your sales are about to run out, then you release an expansion/DLC to get more funds. Consumers get more content and producer get more funds. I am very grateful that squad releases updates, that is definitely not my issue. I bought the game through steam. And maybe, that is the main problem. Steam autoupdates, there is no choice. You can choose to set update download to the middle of the night if you want to but as soon as you try to launch the game you will be prompted to update before playing it. That is steams fault not squads of course. But from my understanding I can't move the install folder anywhere else and still be able to update either. When I click the update button in the ksp launcher it takes me to a page explaining I have to log in to the store and go to "products purchased" to get the new version. I never bought KSP through the site so I wouldn't have any purchase history. And therefore, the way for me to install updates is to leave it in the steam folder and let it be auto updated Cause I really want the update, it not a question about that, I really really want to the update, but I want the mods to be ready and updated before I do that. One way I see it would work is that the "play game" button in steam would start the launcher instead and in the launcher you can have a check box for autoupdate. Thats the whole thing. I don't have the choice when I'm on steam. Lastly, I want to apologize again, this time before hand in case any of the things I just wrote is taken the wrong way, my intention is not to be angry/cranky/ignorant in any way. If you have a solution for my problem I would be very grateful Kind regards - Schmelge

Would have been amazing if someday someone that knows alot about mechjeb could take the time to fully update the wiki. It's a shame that such a huge mod with so many settings have such an inadequate wiki