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As a sim Orbiter can\'t be beat, but that has the disadvantage of being prohibitively complicated. I remember finding just launching the Space Shuttle to be bewilderingly complex (How do I release the booster rockets, how do I change the throttle of this thing? how do I get the engines working? How do I change the angle of this ship? Oh dear god, we\'re tipping over! How do we change the angle of this thing?!) I suppose there\'s a very good reason why real astronauts need years of training, re-watching hour-long tutorials is not my idea of fun. KSP has the advantage of being far more pick-up-and-play. Strap a rocket together and fly. It\'s still complicated, spaceflight always will be, but when the game gets closer to release a lot of the complicated bits should be dealt with by a relatively quick tutorial campaign.

It isn\'t essential to the game but having visually distinctive kerbals would be quite cool and once you start adding facial characteristics it is inevitable some will look more feminine than others. I don\'t mind them all looking the same but a bit of variety would be nice.

You think that haing no canon \'female\' kerbals will stop dubious fan art? Welcome to the Internet!

Or Chaika, same reason.

I imagine that once crew selection comes into the game there will need to be differences in the models to tell them apart, I imagine that a few randomly generated physical features like the randomly generated names could throw up some female kerbals.

Well done, Hello1432, enjoy your shiny new Kampaign trophy!

Perhaps we should start to develop an FAQ to cover basic things like default controls, the principles of getting into orbit, basic orbital mechanics, transfers, landings and the like?

Hi, welcome to the fora First thing\'s first, I reccomend practicing orbital maneuvers first. There\'s a reason that the ship which landed on the moon in 1969 was Apollo Eleven! First just practice getting into stable equatorial orbits at about 100km high, keep trying to circularise your orbit by following AlexL\'s little guide above. Remember that the atmosphere stops at 70km up, if your pe (or ap) is below 70km, you\'re on a collision course with Kerbin. Once you\'ve gotten a feel for how to adjust your orbit and you\'re comfortable with changing your AP and PE, I have a 30-step guide below for getting into Munar orbit, Landing on the Mun, and getting home. POW ZOOM! Straight to the Mun! 1) launch your rocket straight up until you reach about 20k, then gently angle the rocket eastwards (90 degrees) at a steep angle. You don\'t need to be doing huge speeds, just enough to keep raising your apoapsis. 2) When your Ap reaches 100k, stop burning and turn your ship to turn at 90 degrees, with zero inclination (on the nav-ball you should have equal amounts blue and brown and be sitting pretty on the 90 degree marker) 3) Just before you reach Ap, fire those engines as hot as they\'ll go until your Pe ia about 100k and shut off the engines again. Don\'t worry if you\'re out by quite a margin or if the eccentricity is high, just get that Pe up above the atmosphere. 4)Keep your eye to the horizon in the direction of travel, you want to watch for Munrise. As soon as you see the Mun poke up above the horizon, turn to prograde (The yellow ciircle on the nav-ball) and start to burn. 5) On the map view, you should see your Ap rise, you want to get is close to the Mun\'s orbit at about 11,500k, reduce your burn as your AP gets close so you don\'t overshoot, and keep watching for when your map tells you you\'ll intercept. (This assumes that you\'re running a paid version of the game (Versions 0.14 onwards) if you\'re using the demo, then the game won\'t show you when you\'ll be captured by the Mun, just get to 11 million metres, and cross your fingers. If you miss then just time warp until you DO get captured by the Mun, it will happen eventually.) 6) time warp 10,000 until you get captured by the Mun. 7)You\'ll notice now that your path isn\'t a circle but an arc with a Pe in the middle, this shows that you\'re on an escape trajectory and we don\'t want that. wait until you reach Pe and turn to face retrograde (they yellow/green symbol with the \'x\' through it) and start to burn your engines, watch as the two ends of the arc start to close up. 9) You can now keep burning to lower your Ap to a circular orbit. 10) Voila, you\'re in Munar orbit! LANDING ON THE MUN! now you\'re in Munar orbit, I bet you\'d like to settle yourself down on the surface right? Well, all right then. First let\'s find a landing site. 1) The safest places to land are the large craters on the lit side of the Mun (You\'ll see why soon) so wait until you\'re in sunlight over a crater. 2) now we kill the majority of your lateral velocity (There are Kerbal pilots who are capable of killing it all at this step, but if you\'re like me you\'ll still have a little left.) by turning to face retrograde again and burning. Your pe will lower until it sinks into the ground and your retrograde symbol will travel up the nav-ball until it\'s sat on top of the blue segment. This is what we\'re aiming for. 3) Now we need to gently control our descent without losing too much fuel. I do this in stages, Keep an eye on your nav-ball and as long as you\'re above 5,000m watch your map and wait until you\'re about half the distance between your Ap and the ground, then burn to bring the Ap down to you. 4) Keep doing this until you\'re about 5,000m up. Keep an eye on your retrograde symbol and keep it as close to the top middle point as you can. 5) at 5000m it starts to get into nail-biting territory. The first thing to remember is to ignore your altimeter, it shows your position relative to a \'sea level\' not from the ground. Even in the craters you\'ll land somewhere close to 300m high up. 6) get your velocity down to about 20m/s and just keep the engines on a nice, slow descent burn, you don\'t want to be violently speeding up or slowing down. 7)When you get to about 2000m, turn your RCS on and use the J,K,L and I buttons to fire bursts to kill any lateral movement you\'ve still got, your retrograde symbol should sit snuggly over the dot at the top of the ball, if not, you still have lateral movement which will tear your lander to shreds. keep slowly bringing your velocity down, at 1,000m (if you\'re landing in a crater) you want to be at about 10m/s this is still fast, but depending on how well-made your lander is, it can probably survive those sorts of speeds. 9) Now, keep your eye below you and look for your ship\'s shadow, that\'s your altimeter now. When you see it get your velocity down as low as you can without flying back up again, about 5m/s or less, keep using RCS to keep that retrograde symbol over the zero point. 10) when you finally touchdown you want to be as slow as possible <1m/s is perfect, but when your ship is about half a ship-height from the ground and your lateral movement is dead (Keep using those RCS if you need to) kill your engines completely, you should land with a bit of a bump on the Mun\'s surface. Congratulations! RETURNING TO Kerbin. So, you\'ve landed on the Mun, used F1 to take some commermorative screenshots and you\'re ready to go home? 1) Fire up those engines, but keep them low, you don\'t need much thrust to escape the Mun, just fly up until you\'re at about 1000m then, as on Kerbin, slowly and gently tilt to 90 degrees at a fairly steep inclination. 2)When your Ap is at about 3,000m you should be high enough to miss all the mountains, so turn to face 90 degrees at zero inclination and burn to raise your Pe to about the same height. You can safely orbit at 3000m but if you feel too nervous at that low height then burn to about 5000m 3) Watch the horizon again for kerbin-rise then start to burn prograde, it shouldn\'t take much fuel to raise your Ap to a point where it gets captured by Kerbin but if you run out of fuel at any time, remember you can turn your RCS on and press H to use a makeshift engine. 4) When your map shows your proposed new orbit in yellow, time-warp until you get captured by kerbin 5) You probably won\'t have much fuel left now, so let\'s make every drop count, your Ap and Pe will probably be all over the place, so just time-warp until you reach Ap 6) At Ap, turn retrograde and burn to reduce your Pe to lower than 65k. That is your target, if you don\'t have the fuel to lower it any more, don\'t worry, you\'re on a course for Kerbin! 7) if your Pe is lower than 65k (prefereably somewhere closer to 50k) your orbit will take you through the atmosphere, when that happens you\'ll perform what\'s known as an \'aerobrake\' maneuver, whereby the air will lower your Ap. If you don\'t have any fuel left don\'t worry that you shoot out of the atmosphere again, it will just take multiple aerobrakes to get your speed down and your Ap inside the atmosphere. When you\'re in the atmosphere, wait until you\'re over the ocean and fire what\'s left of your fuel retrograde, to make sure your path will make you fall in the drink. 9) Jettison everything except for the command pod and parachute. make sure your parachute and module is above the rest of your rocket when you jettison or they will smash into your module and kill your kerbals, don\'t screw it up now! 10) Fire your parachute as soon as the debris is away and ride it down safely into the ocean. Splashdown! Congratulations, now just time to wait for a rescue ship!

Step 7: Decorate your rocket with hanging kerbals - a perfect Christmas decoration.

send a rescue ship up! Get a 3-man capsule on the launch pad and EVA one of the Kerbals aboard so you have a spare seat. send the rescue ship to the Mun, land it carefully then get your stranded kerbal to board the rescue ship!

Nicely done, hello1432. Did you actually reach escape velocity for a little while there?

Ah! I was planning on building a space bus this evening just for the hell of it, now I have a reason! The only thing which I think will halt my dreams is lag as more and more kerbals are added.

Congratulations on another great update. I\'ve had a problem with a few of the parts freezing the loading screen (Looking at you, Tricoupler!) But otherwise it\'s fantastic.

Welcome to the Forums. I know what you mean about it being an educational tool and as for Mun landings, the message to the Eagle from Ground control always struck me as appropriate 'thanks a lot, you got a bunch of guys down here about to turn blue!'

That is awesome!

The only problem I have with 2x removed is while aerobraking. If I\'m returning from the Mun with a dribble and a fart of fuel it was nice to be able to aerobrake away those thousands of metres, on 1 times zoom this can take a while. Either way, it\'s a small thing and I\'m sure that after a few missions I\'ll forget that there ever was a 2x warp. it used to bugger up the altimeter anyway.

What\'s the difference between a long distance glider and one which exploits infinite gliding?

Very well done but you miss out on maximum points because those fuel tanks weren\'t empty when you landed on Minmus. 9 points awarded.

I don\'t know whether it\'s a problem with my graphics card (woefully out of date) but the only problem I have with EVA is that they walk like me after 8 or 9 pints, difficult to make them walk in a straight line. Other than that little niggle, they\'re fantastic!

it works fine, supports either the 1 or 3-man capsule.

Welcome from a fellow Brit.

Markus, nicely done, and stock parts, too? 20 points so far. I look forward to seeing you on Minmus

To carry on the theme: My first Munar EVA As a side-note, I love those side-mounted engines!

So long as the tracking station registers whatever\'s left floating around up there as \'debris\' rather than \'Spy Station\' or whatever, then it\'s fine!

Hence the need for the screenshot showing you destroying the station. The aim of mission 6 ius to cover your tracks to prevent war, rather than starting it by dropping a space station on their heads