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4 hours ago, qzgy said:
Thats what I said to a trip to Laythe.
Well, it helps if you have absolutely silly amounts of delta-V and no pesky atmosphere in the way and...
Wait, is that bioluminescence?
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2 hours ago, qzgy said:
As a sign of my youthfulness.... whats MTV? (I'm aware of it.. but never really seen it.)
But seriously, I'm really not that old. At all. The 1990s were ancient times to me.
That would be Music Television. Legend tells that in the Before Time, in the Long Long Ago, MTV once broadcast... music videos....
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2 hours ago, roboslacker said:
Bomb that planet into oblivion!
According to some estimates, it may already be there...
1 hour ago, IncongruousGoat said:You're probably asking yourself: "In all that excitement, did he send six probes, or five?"
I guess the question I should be asking myself is, do I feel lucky?
...and something about my lawn I think...
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19 minutes ago, InterplanetJanet said:
You may ask yourself, "What is that beautiful house?"
You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"
And you may ask yourself, "Am I right? Am I wrong?"
And you may say to yourself, "My God, what have I done?"Aaaaaaand now that’s stuck in my head, thanx.
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“Like” is perhaps not the best emotion for that post, but still. You take care of yourself and do what you need to, I empathize where you’re coming from, and you’ve got no shortage of ears ‘round here should you need to fill them and let off some steam.
Come back soon.
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48 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said:
Where are you getting the information on steepness of the trajectory? Going by memory (which is wrong a lot) I don't think we've seen a BFS Earth re-entry animation.
I think the shuttle did about 3G and the Soyuz does about 5 during re-entry, so surface area makes a difference. The Apollos went just above 7G sometimes. The larger surface area on BFS plus the higher velocity should mean that the G's might be about the same... I think... I mean, it's not rocket science or anything, right? Fighter jets have also been known to do 12G for short periods of time.
EDIT: According to a random number found on the internet for F91.1 (should be close enough to 1.2) the first stage has a dry mass of about 15 tons. If we say each merlin can do 600kn at minimum throttle and a three engine landing burn is used, that's 1800kn, 20 tons (for residual fuel), gives us about 9G, so Falcon has withstood these forces before, although not laterally.
The shuttle could manage only 3g because it’s a lifting body, just like BFS will be. That allows for a much gentler re-entry, since the vehicle can use aerodynamic lift to decelerate more in the thin upper atmosphere. The BFS will likely do a similar earth entry to what we see in the video, using lift vectored down to “pull” itself down into the atmosphere where it would otherwise skip off. That lets it fly right in a sweet spot for both G loading and heating.
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Year 8, Day 147...More housekeeping and minutia in this update. ION-1, our plucky little foray into electric propulsion, has spent the last few months in an eccentric holding orbit high over Gael after thoroughly SAR mapping the surface. And at Ceti. And Iota. And Rald. This thing just keeps on going and going like some bizarre pink rabbit. To that end, it needs a refuel.
SpoilerUnfortunately, it was never designed for refueling. But more on that later. First off, another reliable Mallard-D heads into a rare polar orbit.
It drops of this beautifully over-engineered little nightmare before leaving the area at high speed.
The refueling tug then heads off, using an uninsulated hydrolox kick stage.
Did I mention it was over-engineered? The engineering team was worried that the kick stage would maintain enough fuel to make the initial burn at all before it all boiled off. Instead, there's plenty left for the velocity-matching burn, too.
The kick stage is then, well, kicked... still with fuel left in the ever-warmer tanks.
And now comes the unpleasant business. The tug is equipped with a micronozed Klaw, to grab onto one of ION-1's engines, and, well... you get the idea.
Note to self: Remove any and all movies relating to aliens from the engineer's lounge room. Replace them with something harmless, like... ponies...
So, anyways, nature being what it is, the deed is done. Despite neither thing here being natural. But over 12,000 unites of fresh xenon is successfully force-fed into ION-1.
Unfortunately, we have no way to remotely check it for implanted eggs...
Further mimicking nature, once the transfer is complete, there's.... well, there's just no use for the tug, anymore. It carries no instruments or even long-range antennas, so it's no good even as a remote relay elsewhere. The engineering team all imagines a sad face as the tug goes to pick up its own kick stage drifting nearby.
Ponies. The engineering team definitely needs ponies. No, Vlad, they cannot be telepathic taco-stealing ponies. Where do you even come up with this stuff?
So, after finishing its task, the tug fires up its ion engines for the first time and... whoah!
It seems in all the hubbub, no one disabled the engine on the kick stage, so it fires right back up again and spins the whole mass up to an incredible speed!
Unfortunately for the tug, it still has a ridiculous amount of fuel on board for its own engines, more than enough to stop its rotation and begin its sad end.
It gets a nice view of the polar aurora as it descends...
But soon disappears in a puff of
logichighly compressed xenon.ION-1, meanwhile, while feeling rather ill and complaining of indigestion, now has a full 18 kilometers per second available in the tanks.
So it's quickly sent off to be the harbinger of bad news to another useless object.
Transfer window? We don't need no steenking transfer window!
Iota station has been derelict ever since the first and last crew left it, possessing a probe core but no long-range antennae, and the solar panels failed some time ago.
So, after a lot of flitting around and several unprintable pages of fresh swear words later, it's finally pushed out of orbit.
...smacking harmlessly into the Iotan surface.
Well, harmless to everything except the station, of course.
ION-1, of course, remains in good health in a high orbit over the small moon. The fuel in its tanks barely touched, we have a new mission for it. A window to Thalia is once more approaching, and after the disappointment and then failure of Thalia EXPRESS, this time we're sending... an armada.
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10 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:
They need five consecutive Block 5 F9 flights for man-rating.
So speaking of this... the concept of "man-rating" gets thrown around a lot, here. Obviously NASA has some very specific standards SpaceX has to live up to due to the contract, but if SX did want to man-rate the FH, independently of NASA, what would that involve? As far as I know, there's no FAA or other "legal" standard for man-rating a rocket for entirely private use.
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8 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said:
Maybe they plan to kickoff space tourism by bolting seats inside the fairing.
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11 minutes ago, tater said:
Whoah.
Looks like they’re serious this time.
I... I want to jump into it from a great height...
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1 hour ago, PB666 said:
Discount the expendable launches remove the landing struts and get rid of them . . . .
This is presumably what they’re doing. The last expendable only had legs for testing purposes.
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Ahah. Perhaps this is the debut of the promised "Fairing 2" then?
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1 hour ago, TheMadKraken2297 said:
'let it go'
Also a little 'never gonna give you up'
Make it stahp!
Embrace the Elsa...
in 270 different languages!
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8 minutes ago, Green Baron said:
Their boring department sells silly party toys).
SpaceX: The Flame Thrower! (The kids love it), moichandising!
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19 minutes ago, YNM said:
Then upgrade.
That’s the point you keep missing, bruh.
Thats not. Always. An option.
If the telco/cable company doesn’t see economic value in upgrading its equipment, its not going to. To have that economic value there needs to be a certain density of customers in a given area. Many of us live where we do specifically because there isn’t that kind of density, we don’t want it. Satellite internet is already a successful thing in such places, but existing systems have a lot of drawbacks: low bandwidth, per-MB charges, one way High-speed, etc. Also, they’re freaking expensive.
Starlink has the potential to offer the same kind of coverage, but at prices and performance that will even allow it to compete with telco/cable, perfect for those of us who would be happy with “good enough.”
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25 minutes ago, YNM said:
If we're talking about reach, it is outreached. If we're talking about speed, it is outrun.
And yet you’ve had two or three people just right here on this one thread tell you, “hey, this sounds like a good idea, it might just work for me.”
Starlink doesn’t need to be the end-all be-all to be competitive, in many places simply offering an alternative to the local telco monopoly will get them a few customers, and if it really is “super high speed” even with some latency, that’ll draw a few more. A niche market here, a niche market there... the nice thing about satellites is that they can reach ALL the niche markets at once.
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31 minutes ago, YNM said:
Then you've just made 12,000 cubesats obsolete in short time because now they'll want cables.
Seriously Elon, if you want people to get internet, get a fixed link, not a bodge.
Like the other guys said, laying a cable isn't always an option. Or maybe there's ONE option for a cable, and nobody wants it, cuz the provider sucks, and can continue to suck as long as they have their little monopoly. Not everyone lives in a city, bruh.
7 minutes ago, Elthy said:Also dont forget ships and planes. Both will pay a lot for good internet...
That too. Bet there's a lot of demand on those cruise ships with thousands of people on board...
8 minutes ago, Elthy said:If they realy want to build 12000 satellites they need a dedicated factory and lots of automatition. It will be exciting to see economics of scale at work.
As I understand, they're looking to build it out here in Kent, WA near their lab facility. My wife keeps checking the job postings there, and I keep reminding her what the commute would be like.
Landline-speed internet in the vanpool, now there's a good use of it...
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3 minutes ago, YNM said:
What bandwith are they looking ? 1 Tbit ? I bet not.
In which case, b0llocks. Undersea cables can easily go beyond that.
Musk has only said "ultra-high-speed," whatever that means remains to be seen. But I think you're missing the point, this isn't meant for everyone, it's meant for users in areas not well served by traditional services, and to give some competition where it is (and where there is often none). Might not be the best thing for gamers if the lag is what's been discussed, but for the average user who just facebooks and streams movies? Yeah, it's possibly an option. And any competition would be in improvement at this point.
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Awesome.
Throwing this out there in case its helpful, been mulling it over the last couple days. It might be a slightly more, er, elegant solution if IR is giving you conniptions, all do-able with stock bits.
Start with a rig like this that you can drive over your shuttle. This one's from SSTU massing around 40 tonnes, not sure how your much-better-looking one compares.
Not pictured: the 6 large landing gear on the rig. Which are unpowered here, but you get the idea. Park the shuttle, drive this over it, then retract the gear so it settles onto the shuttle's docking port.
Then retract the shuttle gear, extend the FRONT most rig gear, and start transferring ore from the front tanks to the ones up high.
This will transfer the center of mass rearward...
That didn't work.
Made some tweaks, tried again.
MOAR
boostersore! Mordor?Flipped the middle gear out, still not quite enough, so I popped the rear gear...
This gave it an uncontrolled jolt, but... it's working! It's working!
TIIIIIMBEEEEEEEEEEER!
uM... well I guess the landing gear on the counterweight ore tanks weren't quite enough to catch things.
Kinda blew up the runway...
But, as a proof-of-concept, it worked pretty well, thrown together in about an hour, and without any IR shenanigans. But WITH KJR and copious autostrutting.
YMMV.
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2 hours ago, YNM said:
12,000 satellites !!?!?! What, one for every 200 km sided patch of land ? How in the bloody hell are we going to launch anything else ?
Seriously, just put some good olde BTS towers if that's the order !!! Go get 5G or something !
Because they're not much more than cubesats and they can launch dozens at once. Also, the initial bunch is "only" around 4000. And with "24 hours" turn-around time on Block 5, all they have to do is crank out upper stages...
I may be an early adopter. I'm lucky to even get one bar of 1G where I am, and the only internet choices are the local phone company, which sucks, and the big nationwide cable company, which sucks but has decent speed. IF I can get equal/better speed, at a competitive price, AND give money to SpaceX (via its subsidiary), sign me up!
Oh, also, StarLink isn't the only player in the game. There's one or two others also looking to loft internet satellite constellations numbering in the thousands.
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So... after what seemed like a slow day I just got a metric crap-tonne of forum emails all at once, that I’m still wading thru. Was the forum feeling a bit... irregular today, or might this digital constipation have been on my email server’s end?
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7 hours ago, qzgy said:
And I'm all caught up now. Darn. I have to find another thing to read.....
But it's very good. Moar? Soon ish? Or Eventually(patent pending)
I think you may have just set a new record.
Moar is coming... eventually. It’s just crossed the 4100-word mark and still going, and is definitely going to need the
patienceskill of my editor(s).
The Saga of Emiko Station - Complete
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You’re missing the fourth (fifth?) possibility: Emiko’s tacos are just that good.