CatastrophicFailure
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4 hours ago, GuessingEveryDay said:
Hey! Don't mind me. Just kicking the ashes, see if anything moves.
That thread is not dead which can eternal lie, and stranger aeons... well, it’s been pretty damn strange and it sure feels like an eon.
Been wrestling with my own krakens for a while now, and sadly they’re not the simple face-punching kind. The Story is still rolling around the ol’ noggin and refuses to let me go, so I’m still trying my darndest to summit this massive block.
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@YNM What I’m saying is, it’s not worth the cost. No provider is willing to put up the kind of money that would require, let alone ford the local bureaucracy (“if you do X you must also do Y, and pay for it, because reasons”) and fight the inevitable NIMBYs who want nothing different ever ever. It’s just not worth it for the tiny market they could serve. You’ve also got a tax base of 150m people to subsidize rural fiber for pennies, we don’t.
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3 minutes ago, YNM said:
... and I live on an island 1000 km long with 150 million inhabitants on it yet somehow we have a dozen active volcanoes on the same place and we still can go and visit a village and rice paddies.
Also I'm pretty sure the US have spent a lot of money in the past making roads to nearly all that exist on their continent. Can't see why they can't replicate it with a cable or two.
Your island is smaller than my one state, with less than 8 million people living here. When you have that kind of population density it greatly changes how you can do things. Burying cables is expensive, and brings other issues, to only serve a very small market. The legislature can’t just wave a magic wand and make that less so, at least not without introducing... other problems. There’s a scant 50k people on my island, most of them clumped on one end. The rest of us literally can’t even get a pizza delivered, to say nothing of reliable internet.
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2 minutes ago, YNM said:
Maaaybe make the chance non-zero.
Legislations, legislations...
Unlikely. I once caught a lineman at a gas station during a really bad power outage, don’t worry, I let him go again, Had a very interesting conversation about why, in a place like this that’s known for its trees just as much as its wind, are utility lines still run exposed on poles that are so vulnerable to said wind and trees? Long story short, it’s actually better here. Burying power (internet) lines is expensive, and while problems are much less likely to occur then, when they do occur, they are much much harder just to find, let alone dig up and repair. Where I am, we’re never going to see a mass burial of utility lines, not without a massive suburbanization effort, which would meet a resistance bourn upon the fury of hell itself and would see any such proponents literally tarred and feathered, then maybe set alight.
As such, we will always have power outages during windstorms, which will always bring internet outages with them. The local phone company has buried fiber, if you’re lucky, but I rate them below even Comcast, and if you’ve any familiarity with the latter that should tell you something. Even if completion could acquire the land rights to bury more fiber, it’s an inherently limited thing in an inherently limited market, so we’ll never see any real competition unless it comes from above.
There are millions out there in a similar situation, and we like our rural living, we don’t want suburban subdivisions. We are the target market of these megaconstellations, not the cities and suburbs, at least not yet. One way or another, these constellations are coming, we’d all better figure out how to coexist now, while such things are much easier to do. Yes, there are problems with megaconstellations but they are solvable problems.
10 minutes ago, tater said:I have a few inside my house, actually—like in this room behind me, lol)
Pix or it didn’t happen.
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1 hour ago, SpaceFace545 said:
And it isn't like these megaconstellations benefit the world
On the contrary.... and this is just the very beginning.
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1 hour ago, SpaceFace545 said:
do have a question about the big fat window they want to put on it. So in space big windows are a big no The biggest windows on the space station is covered most of the time when not in use so it doesn't get hit. But the windows on starship will be much much bigger. You have to agree with me that these windows aren't feasible so how do you think they'll get around that?
Yes, seriously. Turns out the stuff does exist, and Musk has mentioned using it in the past. It’s already found uses in optics that need to be tough, like military FLIR sensors.
55 minutes ago, SpaceFace545 said:That’s not old school, that’s cutting edge. Old school would be pulling a buck Rogers and going to Mars in your spaceship that you launched in even if it takes you 6-9 months to get their. Creating a larger nuclear or vasimir powered spacecraft is the future. It would allow better crew accommodations possible artificial gravity and it could cut transfer times in half with very efficient engines opposed to methalox ones.
The trouble with these neato technologies is that they’re always just out of reach, just a few more years out. And anything with “nuclear” in the name automatically gets a metric crapton of pushback from the “nUcYAluR bAaAaaAd!!1!1” crowd, regardless of how safe and viable it is. Musk doesn’t want to wait anymore, he wants to move now with the things he can make work, even if it’s not a perfectly optimized system. The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. With orbital refueling and tethers they could still make a shorter-duration transfer with some simulated gravity.
1 hour ago, Spaceman.Spiff said:On a related note, I wonder if it will maybe have a robotic arm.
I think eventually we’ll see specialized mission modules that can be fitted as needed. Don’t need an expensive arm, or even solar panels, if you’re just launching a batch of Starlinks and recovering on the next window. Adding a module to the Axiom station? Now there it might be helpful.
50 minutes ago, tater said:This isn't my first rodeo, as they say. I was super enthused by Shuttle. I watched the Enterprise drop tests. I watched most all of the launches live when I could. I was expecting Shuttle to maybe eventually build tugs, and vehicles to go back to the Moon. Nope, nada. 30 years of nothing terribly interesting happened as far as launches—until SpaceX started trying to land boosters live, while I watched.
Preach.
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8 minutes ago, tater said:
Saw a cool Starlink pass just now with my son. We didn't count, but saw, well, all of them, I think. Mostly evenly spaced. Easily visible naked eye.
I’d heard they’d been mostly invisible up til now. The white thermal paint on the upper surface while they’re orbit raising must be the culprit, gonna have to start looking again.
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27 minutes ago, SOXBLOX said:
Mmm, I don't see it. I just have a hard time believing space logistics will outdo planetside supply chains.
A couple hundred years ago no one would have thought we’d be sending raw materials to China and receiving the finished products, all for dirt cheap, either. Bezos’ vision makes more sense when you consider such raw materials would ideally be coming from asteroids, too. All the messy stuff stays up there, mostly run by machines, and we get finished products down here.
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27 minutes ago, RCgothic said:
At least some of the lower tiles had been missing prior to flight.
Indeed. Those lower tiles seemed to be more “test” tiles (they’re all test tiles, but...), with different sizes, etc, vs the more “production”-look of the fully-belted section. Someone with better math skills than me could extrapolate that one tile and give us a guesstimate of what the total loss would have been had the whole thing been covered...
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This is promising...
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Well, now we know... sort of...
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8 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:
Agreed. They will certainly pull these engines off and reuse them, assuming there is no damage. The Raptors are expensive. But the rest of the vehicle is fairly disposable at this point. They need data now.
There was some discussion about this on the NSF livestream. While getting more flip/landing data would certainly be desirable, every time they fly they have to shut down assembly on the orbital launchpad, put away tools, hide the donuts, etc. The big milestone has been accomplished now, concept demonstrated, now orbital reentry is the next long pole, be interesting to see what they do with 15... and 18 and 19...
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It worked!
Now the big question is, do they pick it up and put it right back on the launch structure again?
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11 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:
Or like supersonic airline travel. Sure, the Concorde was really spendy when it first flew in the 1970s, but by the 1990s everybody was flying supersonic.
There are other ways to cross the Atlantic. The only way to see space is... to go to space.
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52 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:
LOL. I still can't believe some of you are arguing that this isn't a game for the super rich.
Literally no one said that.
We said this is how it needs to start if anyone else is ever going to get a chance.
37 minutes ago, tater said:Unless the price literally drops an order of magnitude, no normal people can ever do it, and yeah, it's a tiny—vanishingly tiny—niche market.
Like cell phones circa 1980?
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8 hours ago, Shpaget said:
Today, a Google street view car passed right in front of me, so in a few days I should expect to become world famous, or something. Right?
Nah, they just blur your face out or digitally remove you, but...
7 hours ago, kerbiloid said:My towels hanging from the balcony are always visible on the Google Earth street view. They could mark the google years for me.
... @kerbiloid’s dirty laundry is on display for the entire world to view.
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So, in essence, the forum has been vaccinated against this virus site?
save for silly folks intent on licking doorknobs n such...
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Revenge of the Fifth it is, then.
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51 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:
B-737 still flies much better than Starship.
Not the MAX.
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9 hours ago, YNM said:
Pretty sure you can reduce the amount of fuel only down to the amount you need. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to de-orbit (venting fuel is really just opening the prop valves AFAIK) or had to do away with active attitude control of the capsule for re-entry. (Soyuz has had to do quite a number of the latter.)
Interesting, just heard on the livestream they actually do do a “propellant waste” burn to get rid of unneeded fuel.
2 hours ago, kerbiloid said:I guess, Boeing knows better than me.
Their track record isn’t exactly the best right now...
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17 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:
And it's hard to see how a shroud can be worthy of a whole seaship travel, its fuel, and salaries.
It’s not about saving money with the fairings, it’s about saving time. SpaceX’s launch cadence is incredible, and those fairing are a major choke point in that. Every set they can reuse, even at zero cost savings, is quicker than building new ones.
36 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:It's hard to overcomplicate more, and to create more potential crash points.
Solvable. Engineering. Problems.
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4 hours ago, kerbiloid said:
Nobody except SpaceX ever had in thought placing engines into the crew capsule. Because it's not a spaceplane.
5 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said:Ahem:
Spoiler
Until such designs, there was no need to.
4 hours ago, kerbiloid said:Planes and choppers crash, but crew survives when the metal is crashed.
You said it yourself:
4 hours ago, kerbiloid said:Nobody needs a
planefuel tank stronger than a crew.It’s not a difficult design feat to make a tank that can survive the same impact a crew could. The tank need not be stronger than the crew. This is old tech.
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52 minutes ago, Shpaget said:
It has defects?
Maybe you should go to the auction and ask about the broken thingamabob?
Maybe get the car back for old times' sake?
Well, I can see they already fixed the stuck window. I would
assumehope anyone actually considering buying a 17-year-old Ford 6-liter diesel instead of running away screaming knows what they’re getting into.
Been wrestling with my own krakens for a while now, and sadly they’re not the simple face-punching kind. The Story is still rolling around the ol’ noggin and refuses to let me go, so I’m still trying my darndest to summit this massive block.
Literally no one said that.
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Scuttlebutt I heard was that it’s just for inspections, for now. What they find will prolly determine if it flies again or not. Or if that’s just the easier way to get it back off the launch stand.
Of course you know, you’re now obligated to legally change his name to “xxx, Son of @TheseJustWords.”
That’s easier to do when every single tweet isn’t deluged with thousands of fanboy quips and fake spambots.