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[KSP1.12.x] RealPlume - Stock v4.0.8 & RealPlume v13.3.2 [25/JUN/2021]
Shaun replied to Zorg's topic in KSP1 Mod Releases
Hey, I'm wondering is there's a way to remove the 'afterburner' effects from the basic jet engine and turbofans? -
I did clean installs so the settings are default. Setting the drag multiplier to around 2 got me to speeds and throttles that I was using in 1.7.3/1.8
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Drag still needs fixing. From 1.8 to 1.8.1 the drag on all my aircraft is well over twice as much, also parts attached to nodes don’t seem to be occluded, sometimes having a higher drag than the front cone/cockpit!
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Yeah, a few parts like the structural fuselage are way off and too draggy, so a middle-ground would be nice; all the corrections and fixes of 1.8.1, just lower drag. Alternatively, the drag is already multiplied by 8 in KSP, so I may reduce this.
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I haven't played KSP in a few months because I mainly fly atmospheric avaition. After one of the recent updates I noticed drag was all over the place and my aircraft could no longer reach airliner speeds (Mach 0.72-0.84). I thought my save was corrupted or perhaps it was a mod, so I did a clean install and new sandbox save. Here are the results with the following constants: Stock Gull, modified without floats, Mach 0.65 @ 6,000 metres. An aircraft with such few parts shouldn't be draggy and should fly like a dream. Version 1.8 Most of the drag is concentrated on the most frontal and rear components in a 'line of nodes'; the advanced nose cone has a fair amount of drag (0.60); the tail connector has half of this (0.30) and the components in-between about half again (0.15), which makes sense because they're only causing skin friction with a tiny amount of form drag due to the angle of attack, negative in this case. Similar results with secondary 'line of nodes'; the engine nacelle: Intake has 0.21 drag, engine has 0.17 and tanks have 0.02. Version 1.8.1 Overall drag is far higher, and middle components must be creating some invisible form drag or something; the advanced nose cone has a slightly higher amount of drag (0.83); but the tail connector has far more (1.15) and the components in-between almost that of the nose cone! (0.74). Results with the engine nacelle: Intake has 0.21 drag, engine now has higher drag (0.23) and tanks have close to the same drag at 0.18!) Also note the far greater thrust required! Now, the 1.8.1 Bugfixes displays this: "Fix DragCube generation discrepancies in partdatabase - was affecting drag and thermals." I don't know if this is something to do with this, but something has to be done, and I wonder if there's a way to transfer the drag model from 1.8 to 1.8.1 as a mod to fix this issue.
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Edit 2: Found source of issues. It's 1.8.1. I reverted to 1.8 and the drag was fine. Now I just have to prove it, make a complaint bug report and possible somehow make a mod to revert drag to 1.8
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I might try and make a new save game and transfer a model... perhaps my save game was corrupted somehow... Edit: New install after everything including settings deleted. New profile, Still the same problem.
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In one of the latest updates last year, the drag model/calculations must have been modified so that aircraft that used to be able to cruise at transonic speeds can barely reach mach 0.60.
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Thanks to the new terrible drag models in KSP, there is no way this challenge could ever be brought back.
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Lil' Guy 1: Light Multi-Purpose Craft
Shaun replied to schwank's topic in KSP1 The Spacecraft Exchange
So cute yet so versatile, I love it! -
Stock duna propeller plane in breaking ground 1.7.3
Shaun replied to centerbord's topic in KSP1 The Spacecraft Exchange
Try setting your propeller authorities to around 120 (or -120 if reversed). That's what I use to get the most thrust when stationary... on Kerbin at-least... -
Motors that consume liquid fuel like the R121 and R7000 should be able to generate electricity, depending on the torque output. Even the smallest torque settings like 1-2%, which can power a 2-4 blade type B prop should be able to generate enough electricity to power a cabin light or landing light at night. This became apparent because I don't use lights during the daytime making solar panels useless, and the RTG is often more expensive than the aircraft itself.
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He cursed! REPORT! REPOOORT! Delete this now admins, k thx gbye! On a serious note, that’s a nice bugger buggy u got there.