lajoswinkler

If they opposed to this in the first place, I'd respect it, but they were ok when the whole thing started and now they're trying to ruin the project that is under construction. Screw them.

Earth would get blasted by solar wind. Our magnetosphere would be disfigured. Saturn is able to concentrate enough solar wind particles where it is now - imagine it being this close to the Sun. We'd have auroras everywhere.

My advice is - dig a hole in the ground and put the tanks in it. Buy some cement and make a small concrete test site so that if the chamber explodes, you don't get showered with shrapnels. Or use decent bricks for it as they allow repositioning.

All the diacritics have gone nuts. Most of the stuff written in Slavic languages is poorly understandable, if readable at all.

I've managed to get plasma upon landing on Thatmo. It takes considerable speed and steep trajectory, but it's possible. Yes, I've seen smooth flats on it before, but those aren't interesting to me because I'd know they'd look dull. Cantaloupe parts look like a combo of mountains and canyons. All in all, what you see in map view isn't really what you get when you land.

Ay, IMG code does not work...

Does anyone have any idea where to land on Thatmo? There are various features. My plan is to visit both poles and one interesting place. There should be enough oxidizer onboard.

Inclination was set at 90° ± 0.05° and periapsis lowered to 50 km. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173267445281/DF7C4E3FC46609BCF839BA9734168CABF326AC8A/[/IMG] [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173267448667/DCC68BC11A7F2801DABE0E00B54ED124B92FB2AD/[/IMG] Then, at the periapsis a few minute long burn lowered the apoapsis and circularized the orbit. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173267451381/AD0CBFB0FB6E4199084A5C95CE5CDE390FE805CB/[/IMG] [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173267452443/D5E96443A5AC58ADA6445E769F1005A049B66774/[/IMG] Scanning and mapping Thatmo's surface can begin. Valentina strongly approves of it. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173267450289/A95562C02983D19E5A0F328F6211ACF65001D4D9/[/IMG]

What I found, but can't verify, is this [I][URL="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/1/19/1177486/-Getting-to-Know-Your-Solar-System-24-Ganymede"]Daily radiation dose on Ganymede is about 80 mSv (millisieverts) or 0.08 sieverts (Sv) per day. This is 450 times smaller than radiation on Io (36 Sv), and about 68 times smaller than the dosage on Europa (5.4 Sv),(...)[/URL][/I] It is plausible. Absolutely plausible. Imagine 36 Sv/day on Io. That is [B]1.5 Sv/h[/B]. We will [B]not[/B] go to Io, I assure you. This dose gives severe radiation poisoning. By the time you get away from Jupiter, even if you just land on Io to quickly pick a rock, you'a walking dead man. At least.

Of course not. It's ridiculous and part of a large anti-reason movement that has spread its wings when Internet went massive some ten years ago.

I had planes fly on their own, but never this long and especially not landing without breaking apart. Nice work. :)

Mission resumed with latest set of mods for KSP 1.0.4, including OPM (everything worked out fine, positions were preserved). The issue with orbital insertion at Thatmo wasn't just the inclination change as it's usually perceived. They're basically going around Neidon in opposite directions. It still is a difference in inclinations, though. The ship and Thatmo were going head on. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173259593457/7BCF0B48D1B3923A04DC8C23D9C232B4ABB13CD8/[/IMG] Engine throttle was at 100% as this wasn't a too long of a burn. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173259611754/A521994AD3E8795C6AAFDBB38C6A7119A73F3638/[/IMG] As predicted, somewhere around half of the orbital insertion I could just dump the lateral engines and their tanks so I did it. That prolonged the burn, but at least I got more delta [I]v[/I]. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173259675826/2D6C01CE94F68EF3E1028F963C105666A611BC95/[/IMG] [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173259676455/F473F1385B94867F1F5FC5F1F54FF4805C9E98F6/[/IMG] Continuing at around 0.88 m/s[SUP]2[/SUP]. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173259677421/073B0FCAEDB2F737A9526206A360A9056D6E866E/[/IMG] This is the first established orbit. [IMG]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403432173259680858/8F95752061597F72B7BD93C6E8F2C75AF87A0700/[/IMG] I'll have to turn it into a strict polar and a low one before I do any landings. It took a bit over 1000 m/s to perform all of this.

[quote name='MircoMars']yeah I know, but since a problem is a story: perhaps it really is the only or best solution they have and they have to make it work somehow. use a uv flashlight and try the best, disassemble the whole module and hang it in a net overboard, or hold every piece to the [s]window [/s]hole in the hull... there are so many possibilities on how to use all the different methods. if the only method at hand was (say) boiling everything in the last 100 liters of water they have, the author has to explain why it's the only way and how it is done (i.e. check if no better solutions are obvious or have your characters make a very dumb decision). and perhaps the not perfect cleaning works well enough for a while. until they have to (dunno) change a lightbulb and someone gets infected again...[/QUOTE] Just remember that these [IMG]http://eurus-wings.com/img/FLH_light.jpg[/IMG] are in the range of deep violet with traces of UV-A, and they do not have a bactericidal effect. There are no germicidal [I]flashlights[/I] and certainly no such LEDs yet. There are only mercury discharge quartz tubes. [IMG]http://www.pro-floss.com/Content/images/sanitizer-splash-banner-mainv2.png[/IMG] The smaller the thing, the weaker the effect. The one on the photo barely serves its purpose.

[quote name='Halo_003']"Even though the members of the International Space Station (ISS) are floating [B]thousands of miles[/B] above us..."[/QUOTE] *shudder* :huh:

[quote name='YNM']Being an Indonesian myself, it [i]is[/i] true that there are a settlement of shorter people near the discovery site. Even so, they're as short as the shorter part (excluding them) of the population in Indonesia. Gene accumulation maybe ?[/QUOTE] Could be inbreeding over a long time. A common case. When you combine this with rural people's common way of thinking, religion absurdities, myths and other social phenomena, having these stories is practically mandatory. What they lack is evidence. Bussiness as usual, being Indonesia or any other country. :)

There is no more scientific debate on whether global climate change is happening, and not even whether humanity is responsible. [U]It's over.[/U] It was over 20 years ago. The evidence, decades and decades, going back a long time (direct measurement of temperature, salinity, pressure, precipitation, isotopic content[B]*[/B], ice core analysis, sea level, etc.) is absolutely piled on. [SIZE=1]*depletion in atmospheric carbon-14 (because coal lacks it and atmosphere has a pretty much constant concentration of it) strongly correlates with these changes[/SIZE]

Nice, but lacks one crucial thing - explaining what a [B]hypothesis[/B] is and how the common twisted meaning of the word theory is used to denote "a wild, probably stupid hypothesis". When Kepler did his work, it was his hypothesis, not a theory. It lacked a lot of independent observation and testing to become a theory.

I like this very much. :)

I did not know stock radiators needed energy. Good work, have some rep.

[quote name='MircoMars']I didn't take the time to read al comments, so I don't know if it was already mentioned: the "cleanest" way to sterilise is [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_germicidal_irradiation"]UV light[/URL]. have them flood the compartment with ultra bright short-wavelenght light. UV cleaning can also be done permanently in the airducts and water tanks.[/QUOTE] It's just for certain applications. Germs hide in crevices, too. They can be shaded from the light, so it won't reach them. [quote name='Cirocco']very true! I forgot to mention this in my wall of text, thanks for adding that bit. Not a clue why we use IPA instead of ethanol either. Could be a question of taxes? Ethanol is very heavily taxed (in Europe at least) unless it's denatured. That's just a guess though.[/QUOTE] I'd say it's a good guess. Might be the remnant of the prohibition in USA? Who knows. AFAIK medicinal rubbing ethanol at my place is not denaturated. It also isn't very cheap. :D [QUOTE]I know formaldehyde is a really good bactericide, but personally I don't like it at all and the pharmaceutical industry is also moving away from it because of its toxicity. I mean this stuff can cause burns, can be toxic when inhaled, ingested or on skin contact, and is possibly carcinogenic. Now, toxicity is all a matter of concentration of the solution: low concentrations and short, one-time exposure means a whooooole lot less toxicity. But still, the possible health hazards make it a last-ditch solution for me.[/QUOTE] For automated applications where robots do things in isolated areas, it's fine. I'd never work with it often in a way it would cause chronic toxicity. The only times I've actually encountered it, in the form of an aqueous solution was with preserved organisms and samples in jars and that was not often. It's used when stuff needs to be preserved for a long, long time and it should not be used for preserving stuff you open relatively often. Ethanol and hermetic sealing is better. Also formalin smells... as if it's ANGRY. :D [QUOTE]true, prions are a female dog, but the OP did mention that his plague was bacterial and I assumed non-sporulating. If you want to get rid of prions I would hazard a guess that enzymatic cleaning agents may help? Again though, this is pure educated guesswork on my part. And of course once you ingest the prions you're kinda boned.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't really know what to do with them. LOL Probably warm enzyme bath but you never know which prion we don't know about can be resistant to which enzyme. After all, enzymes are pretty much selective molecules.

Thanks for the suggestions. I've been on a small hiatus because of some life changes. I'll resume the mission shortly. Kron 5 will certainly not be abandoned, it's safely copied on the disk after KSP got updated.

Actually concentrated ethanol (96% azeotrope @ 1 atm) is not the proper solution as it's so hypertonic and reactive towards proteins that it precipitates the gooey shell around the bacterial cell and effectively makes its own barrier. Bacterial cell can then survive because its mechanisms sense something is blocking the ion transfer and it just turns into a spore which can germinate in the future. It's one of the reasons 70% ethanol is the historical staple of disinfection and is sold as rubbing alcohol (I have no idea why some places have isopropanol) - it penetrates the cell more easily and causes harm inside the membrane where things matter. Another reason is that it's less harmful to skin. Hydrogen peroxide mist would be ok for places not susceptible to oxidation by it. For regular purposes and where its reactivity isn't a problem, formaldehyde (not formalin!) is a really good option. One thing we don't have enough knowledge about are prions. There are some that are resistant to classical methods of autoclaving which is really problematic, even more knowing that there are probably lots of them we simply never detected.

[quote name='fredinno']O3 is probably too dangerous and explosive, though.[/QUOTE] No one would consider using pure ozone, it's way too difficult to make. Ozonized oxygen/air (around w=15%) is enough. But I'd use warm formaldehyde. It precipitates proteins and thus ruins them and it's already one of the staples of sterilization techniques.

UVC will not work as one tiny crevice in material is enough to host bacteria in its shade. UVC is used for smaller applications where total eradication of germs, being living ones or spores, is not needed. Ozonized oxygen or formaldehyde should be fine. Just fill the area with warm mixture and wait for a few hours. The latter is better for surfaces sensitive to oxidizers. Not even spores survive that.

No, you can't do that. You need more water than the lungs are able to absorb in 100% relative humidity per unit of time. It would help and prolong life, but not much. Also, lungs don't like breathing in such air mixture all the time.