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well since you did the Star Trek 1 shot of V'Ger I give you all the Mother of all Borg! (the Father of all Borg being Spock of course!) Others have mentioned how they fly with Mechjeb... I will tell you some of the basics of how I fly I DO use Ascent Guidance I DO NOT Auto throttle for many of the rockets. But I DO throttle for my missions with Tourists if I am PARTS and FUNDS limited only! I DO alter the AOA limits in MJ as I proceed up in altitude (MJ seems to be adjusted for a 2.5x system with it's AOA limiter cut off... so below 10km I have it set to 8 degrees and above 10-15km I manually change it to 15-20 degrees for most launches. I DO MANUALLY set up the flight profile. The Auto profile is fine for an all liquid rocket but for something like Titan IIIC or later / Saturn II with the SRM first stage. The Auto flight profile does not do well in these situations! I do set my pitch over to start at 2km and I set it to end it's turn at 70km with generally about a 60% slope. <- THIS IS NOT LIKE REAL LIFE FOR MOST LAUNCHES but due to the scale and how the atmo works It seems to be best for me and my payloads.

A lot of Military Rockets and their Civilian "extrapolation" are the same exact rocket. The name and minor greebles are changed so it can get past being called a "weapon" for international relations/treaties. A few years ago I had to deal with a Simulation that was considered a "weapon" for export.... Same thing just different application. TBC just because certain parts (CASTOR 120) are "an evolution of" existing technology and not the exact same part (SR118 and SR119) does not mean all Military parts that are "evolved/updated" into Civilian parts are or have huge changes. I don't know the Orbus-7S from bob so I can't provide info other than to say since it looks like a duck it might ACTUALLY be a Duck.... unlike Castor 120... which while it looks like a duck, is more a wooden decoy of a duck than a real duck. Zorg, what a nice simple advertisement Video. well done. except when I watched it my Satellite efficiency OCD kicked in. "A side with no science on it other than an antenna....... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :> Why don't these forums use the CORRECT and ORIGINAL grin emoji? Why do they have to use Big smile Emoji for Grin? you all realize they aren't the same yes?

Except that is like saying Movies don't divide equally into 30 Frame rate of TVs (24 for movies....US ATSC/NTSC TV formats.) Just alter your reference to a different number (60 frame potential aka 120Hz) and you solve without hard math. 24 and 30 both go into 120 evenly. In the case of KSP if you use the reference number of 0.125 for your base measurement (several mods use this size for small probes.) then both 1.25 and 1.5 are valid numbers. ==================================================================================================================================================== On a more up to date note. @Beale, I love the Cream/buff/white Colors for the R-7 in your concept graphic, but I have to go with Green. Simple reason, Many R-7 Satellite launches WERE green at least according to Bill Gunston's books on space, satellites and whatnot (Salamander book so pretty thin on techie detail and more to get kids/adults interested in his subjects without all the engineering/history. Unfortunately that was a library book and one the library no longer has on it's shelves (dK if it was worn out or some one kept it....)

1) I went looking for a way to make your time unlimited. Do you have any Infinity Stones? 2) more seriously, Any chance you can make all 6 edges of the Tryp surface attachable so that I can put a rod inside my Cargo Envelope with a bunch of those thin side to a decoupler? I could see it used as a cluster launch with a Solar on each of the broad sides (each is aproximatly 0.5m across at it's widest that allows stacks of 3 on a simple pole/beam attached on a 1.5m or larger upper stage base. Eg Delta or Titan. It would taking some doing but you could launch 3 6 or 9 sat constellations on a single titan launch with those. 3x pancakes would allow room for Solar pannels (surface or tracking) and with enough space between each pancake of Satellites you would have enough room for a small Solid Kick. And the other two narrow sides can be used to mount whip/blade type antennas. 3) The new redstone parts. I know your opinion on the weapon side and agree with you. However those are some snazzy looking parts that have a lot of peaceful uses I can see. And I do like the fact that the A-6/A-7 Engine is expose-able. Big curiosity question. Will we see the Higher thrust A-6 (that was less reliable) or the lower thrust A-7? Or maybe an upgrade from A-6 to A-7 after start? Allows explodie early probes and when Mercury is unlocked the engine no longer explodes easy(overheat) but rather has a bit lower thrust? It would be historically accurate. 3A) Just want to make certain I read it right. The Engine guide vains are now part of the engine itself and not the Redstone fins? 4) Any planned uses for the various Redstone GCU (Guidance Control Units) you mentioned? Or are they there more for "correct build" than actual flight purpose? Wait, you mean it isn't just a scaled up BDB Pioneer 14 probe? Oops I have been using a 3x rescale (I think) of the Pioneer 14 fat conical BDB probe as a Wresat analog. It works... Ish (and no I still don't mean my Great grandma Ish!) It was a Photo probe like Pioneer 14 so It is fitting that a scaled up Pioneer 14 does an "OK-ish" job

Err Far Far and Away ahead???? I dare say! Although there are SOME parts in Making History that are nice and unique (the completely generic engine plates.) But yes ~90% of Making History is already done better in BDB and Cobalt is currently making many of those parts YET AGAIN Better (Titan!) Although, while I haven't had a chance to play KSP since Breaking-Ground released... I look foward to playing with that. I hope it is easy to convert either the Breaking Ground science to work with KIS/KAS or bring Cobalt's Surface Experiment mod up to BG connectivity standards (so that I don't need KIS/KAS anymore.) That is because the large colection of mods I have do not play nice when I install either/both KIS/KAS. Again I haven't looked at it hard yet as I am busy in Battletech Urban Ops ATM (yes Citys and Zergling/Tyranid endless enemy Combats!)

It is the gold I assume he is referring to given the past two pages comments on reflective shaders in KSP. The non-polished metal looking areas are awesome, I agree but the reflective portion (gold bell and foil) are..... pedestrian in color and detail. EDIT: As Cobalt just posted as I was typing this "Basic Colors and AO bake" @CobaltWolf The IUS interstate is pretty, as is, in your photos in my opinion. Would need a bottom up angle shot for the upper stage for a better comment there but the Foil is my main sticking point. It either has too many or too few creases in it.... and YELLOW. I assume a Orange, Sienna or Brown over-tint is going to bring out color variation and details.

Um, I keep pressing the Thumbs up button but you are only getting one upvote. I need Moar Upvotes for that! You do realize that with the IUS you are going to have a bunch of new people wanting to download BDB for their Space shuttle trash haulers right? Maybe post pics of that for the next release (or make it prominent in the Titan Pics so they can all see...)

Actually you can see pictures of what Titan Used... NOTE to my knowledge it was only used on SRM launches so not used on the I/II/IIIB/23B/24B/33B/34B ALSO I should mention that It is not to protect the engine while it is running, but rather in flight BEFORE it is running. Just one of the pictures.... It looks like Metal but whatever it is covering the engines is Painted White. In Closeups you can see a line of what I assume are rivets running down a seam on one side of the engine. What ever the Fasteners are they are heavily covered by that white paint enough that they just look like bumps on a strip on one side. PS Please note my next Truck is in the background in this picture (See Avatar.... Has 10 Wheels = Truck! ) RE Atlas, The Pictures I had found are/were on the Astronautix Site... I THINK. I found them when I was researching Atlas like 6 years ago when FASA was the only place to get a true 1.5 Stage Atlas. However it appears in the cleanup/re-do of the site that they have been replaced by "cleaner looking" graphics. It was a close up of a LR-105 and you could make out part of one of the LR-89s each covered by a silver "square patch" looking pieces that had several corners pulled up. I ASSUME that was a picture of Batting/Blanket (Batting because one piece did not cover the entire engine bell.) I did a quick search today on the LR-105, LR-89, MA-3 and Atlas and in each case every link to an engine shows the same graphic of engines+Turbos and fuel/oxidizer lines only.... Great if you want to make a 3d Model of the engine I assume but not so hot when looking for "real" pictures. I also checked Gunter's page (skyrocket.de) but here all the photos are too far a way and too low rez to see anything on the engines. To describe it further the photo I saw had the squares (silver one side Black on the other) stuck arround the upper bell portion of the LR-105 and about half way down the LR-89 booster engines. I know the alternate side was black because in the photo I saw you can see several corners that are folded over (not adheared down.) I assume the Black color is some sort of glue to hold them on and transfer heat. If you have any early F-1 photos with their insulation on it you know what I am talking about (with the patches corners being peeled back.) I know the picture was of some sort of MA-3 engine because the LR-105 had the Vortex-Generators(?) in the ring around the bottom of the engine. Excepting the NASA commercial Delta I and later launches I have never seen insulation on a Thor Rocket. Maybe the extra thermal protection for these early Rockets is a NASA only thing (IDK it is just a random thought.)

Naw even early Atlas had em! Ugly slapped together squares adhered to the bells. Since others mentioned it.... I LIKE the blue stripe. But I do still think the LH2 should be white extension. And we have plenty of Photos of the White LR91-AJ-5 on Titan II missiles. It is only when we get into the AJ-9 used on the First Generation Titan III that we see the white being replaced by the reddish-brown color. I have an old book that has a couple of Titan Photos that you can see a White engine bell under a Transtage.... and others where you can see the Long UA-1205 TVC tank and a brownish engine bell. The only problem is it appears that at-least a few (5 or 6?) early Titan IIIs used LR91-AJ-5s or AJ-7s and not LR91-AJ-9s for the upper stage. The LR91-AJ-9 appears to be a LR91-AJ5 or AJ-7 that has a new ablative skirt and nothing else... almost, within 1-2%, identical figures. And like every Ish, I don't mean my Great Grandma Ish! I know I know the -9 is kind of a stand-up guy illegitimate child in the realm of Titan. It was used for approximately 40 launches. Conversely the AJ-11s were used for close to 150? (I am not looking at a launch report right now so am not exactly sure.)

That is an impressive amount of work Friznit. ***GREAT JOB*** Given my passion for Saturn II I immediately jumped to that section. If I could make a "simple" suggestion. Break that section up into Saturn II, OTHER INT-x proposals, and MLV as in 3 sub sections on the same page. Basically take your build list and break it into 3 consecutive lists with a Title above each for what subset your parts are for. I skipped Titan II/III/IV given they are still under-development, but did look at LDC. Only note is that the LDC was never solidified as a specific size/configuration. some of the MOL era LDCs had 4x LR91s in the upper stage, others had 6x LR87s in the lower stage with a LH-2 LR-87 (twin chamber) in the upper stage. Maybe a simple blurb about this being @CobaltWolf's preferred size for LDC? After all LDC (in KSP scale) ran from ~2.125m all the way up to 4.75m depending on the day of the week what program it was under and who the conceptual engineer in charge of it's development at the time was. SO to end, that is a great bit of work Friznit. You use the correct BDB names for the parts which is awesome for everyone not useing the BDB_Realnames patch from the BDB Extras folder.. You have good flow through the document and you even cover some brief history on the parts (enough to tease the reader into going out and doing their own research! Love the Single bell LR-87. Don't think it (as it stands) needs anything else except for when you change the extension for V-O use. (of course that is a 1 view picture so reserve further comment ) LH2 Extension and the idea of Carbon Carbon. First: It is your mod so yours is the final choice. now Opinion. Carbon Carbon was first introduced in 1976 in the world of F1 racing and into the Aerospace world with the RL10B-2 engine which is what late 1980s at the earliest? Given the exhaust temperature and the fact that Aerojet was in Bed with the Silica composite companies right up until the Aerojet-Rocketdyne merger..... White like the early LR-91-AJ-5/7.... (runs and hides!) Now this is more a Saturn Alt-History question than a Titan question but will there be a DUAL chamber LR-87-LH-2 so we can propel our S-IVB proper like with the Best LH-2 engine available?

This is a known issue due to old some of the old titan parts. I believe this does not affect gameplay unless you try using the old parts (the ones that don't look shiny and awesome!) Cobaltwolf commented on this prior to his leaving for a time away (vacation I think.)

err, I thought those were Keyed Nodes.... (I have HabTech2 installed.) Will check when I get back flying again. Not a mac expert but Did you extract the folders from the compressed Zip file? You don't just drag and drop the BlueDog_DB.zip into game data, you have to extract the files from it to Game Data. It is not self installing.

Given my station building issues when using Apollo era station parts from other mods... I am curious, has there been an uptick/re-address of universal docking ports that look like the real deal and available in more than 0.625 and 1.25m sizes? I am getting sick of gendered and/or handed ports that preclude universal docking... AKA I don't like launching and finding out my docking port is not oriented correctly to point the docked vessel the way I want it. But I absolutely detest the stock ports that look like someone cut off the top 4 inches from a 55 gallon drum and rolled the top rim outward. Most of the issues seem to be how different mod creators do their collision meshes than the docking ports themselves. EG the docking port on the station part is below the collision mesh because it is not THEIR docking port. Ideally to me would be an APAS and CABMs type ports without the indexing fingers being part of the collider! In sizes from 0.5m or less all the way up-to 1.25m... With a centered (or offset) 0.9375m/1.25m port welded onto plates up-to 2.5m where the docking takes place CENTERED on the plates OR on the port (B9 Node switch?) The last is to allow for many of the original space station proposals (MOL anyone!?) Gemini-B/Gemini-2/Blue-Gemini would have an off center docking port in the custom service module (with the deorbit SRMs offset in the other direction) and would dock onto MOL via the offset port (but be centered on MOL)

While that may be true (and I did love playing with the White Gemini in FASA BITD) it was based on an actual proposal by McDonnell. Not that NASA ever entertained such a proposal... let alone paid attention to it. Course the real one would have been mostly black with a white or white striped nose cone and extra lights. But I love that you are taking Frizznak's art and re-imaging/imagining it for the Beale Designed Trails Gemini capsule PS thanks for releasing the BDB in Colors I can't wait to fly it!

Nice double post of Photos Kerbal01. Question though... What was the purpose of putting a docking port on the thin antenna of the Apollo space telescope? Was it just so you could launch it and a Crewed mission to the Skylab on the same launch? I ask since that part (the Telescope) has it's own Command point and can fly itself. I tended to launch that on a Titan 23C if I wanted to add it after the fact. Sure it was ugly with the old fairings and the no boat-tail parts BITD but it worked hunky-dory for launching a stand alone telescope.

HEY! I have heard of them! In-fact I requested the neatest one of them... oh wait.... ..... Don't hit me ya'all! :> Ugh... Wish this forum software used used the correct syntax for grin :> not Good job figuring it out. I was just about to fire up KSP to check this out when I saw the earlier post that removing Scatter solved the problem. Back to finish my KOTOR2 play-through before The next Battletech expansion comes out... By THEN I hope we will see a completion of the Titan III parts Ugh too many games have gone on sale recently that are awesome and I must play / play again. I have not flown in any game or simulation in 4 weeks (KOTOR/KOTOR2 don't count cause you don't control the Ebon Hawk yourself.) And Cobalt/Jso.... Please don't take the above as me asking you to hurry up. I have patience. I know this is the "slow down" season for BDB and am prepared... (see above paragraph.)

Ok that makes sense... I look foward to deploying this @Jso Is this going to be part of BDB or a separate moddlet?

Ok I guess I have no patience... I waited a day for deets and nothing followed.... what is your project Jso? I am guessing some sort of nav/comm constellation of micro-sats?

Ahh life in the "real world" when not independently wealthy... Cobalt, you have said previously on twitch and in here that these textures are some of the hardest you have ever done. We all see that is due to the level of care you are giving these parts. We know you have a lot of parts to make and we know you are doing what you can when you can. We also appreciate the distractions you have posted up.... Kick back and enjoy the Reps coming in while you take your vaca. Hope you have fun, come back energized and in exchange we will promise not to burn the thread down due to your extended absence. BTW..... Is it done yet? :>_ Ok joking aside, I see transtage is not listed as done in the Git. Is that an error/oversight or is that because you have even MOAR planned for it?

harbinger x4 now at least! EVERY Aerospace plane has not lived up to their promise. Some due to corners cut, some due to stupid idea, and most importantly many due to Government interference after dictating their initial want (STS anyone?!) Note I don't include the Virgin Galactic birds in the above statment because they are sub orbital and not designed to stay in space. Followup re the S-1 Fins on the UA-1205. Suprisingly those look very good in your photo's @CobaltWolf given they are what 2-3 years apart in age? If it flew well with those fins I will use them Prior to Well's wellness-update to X-20 I flew the X-20 unsuccessfully 20 out of 21 attempts. Attempt 21 was my initial Abort at launch pad test... It went fine. and yes, I groaned when I re-read the sentence above.

Ah! Didn't think about that. Was just going by the texts I have. Thanks!

@Well Just downloaded from space dock. 1) thanks for taking this on and finishing it. IDK what took IronCretin away from KSP modding... Hope all is well there. But I am glad that he used such a permissive license for his mods. 2) IDK if you were aware but the zip you uploaded to space dock is named -20.zip. It looks like your zip program either balked at Cyrillic characters or you missed it... if this was intended please feel free to ignore. The Zip opened fine so I know the file is fine. Just wanted to FYI. 3) Now I need to hurry and finish my KOTOR 2 no-shortcuts iron-man play-though. Cause this and BDB Titan parts is going to cause me to launch a new career. It is just too bad that this and Retro-Future Plane parts seem close but not the same (I have never had both in game at the same time so memory obviously...)

The UA-1205 was actually designed with Thrust vectoring so that it wouldn't need the fins. Only the Single stack Titan IIIA would need the fins as designed, hence my question seeing those massive under-used Saturn I/Ia fins! @CobaltWolf Thanks for the clarification. I can't wait to get this all together (after I finish my KotOR II play-through...) Stupid sales on good old star wars games in early may :() Haven't played the KOTORs in almost 15 years!

Beautiful screen shots. Your complex of launch pads for your photo-ops is coming along nicely. Yes they are from other mods but you placed and put them together. It is looking good... if Kerbal unsafe (too close together?) So a few questions about the launch. So I take it this didn't fly without the fins or did you put them on for the it looked better factor? With IronCretin's original files it was impossible to launch as designed on a Titan IIIC... that is to say with no fins. I guess I am asking were you able to launch it without fins on a IIIC? Did you de-orbit early or were you unable to get up to full orbital speed on a IIIC stack?

err um, I am pretty sure 747 tail fins will melt at supersonic speeds..... Seriously tho: I love the retro "spy" camera photos you have been producing lately Zorg!