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Squadcast Summary (2015-03-28) - Back With A Bang Edition!

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"I'm picking up a high concentration of number 4..."
Remember to spell "4" with a "K" to make it #LOLSOKERBAL, amirite?
really anything is better than "ore"
Really happy it's not a dumb "K" name, "ore" is perfectly serviceable.
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RoverDude

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How about kerbalising it "okre"

Although that then seems like Ocher.

...or Okra... But I expect folks get the point by now ;)

Naming stuff is hard. Naming something everyone is happy with is harder.

Oh... and certainly not Unobtainium. Given it's common availability it would have had to be Obtainium :P

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if its going to be so easy to get - it seems like a game balance problem. Not having tried any of the resource mods, it seems like something that could potentially "make it easy" to get fuel to return from distant places should also be "hard to find." But I guess the balance comes from setup effort, cost, processing efficiency - wherever you do it.

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unobtainium has been used to describe materials who does not exist but is needed for an project. It was also used for the room temperature superconductor in Avatar.

Would not work for something you mine for fuel.

Make more sense if its something who has to be mined on Eve or deep down in Jool atmosphere.

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RoverDude

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if its going to be so easy to get - it seems like a game balance problem. Not having tried any of the resource mods, it seems like something that could potentially "make it easy" to get fuel to return from distant places should also be "hard to find." But I guess the balance comes from setup effort, cost, processing efficiency - wherever you do it.

You also caught the bit about the difficulty slider? ;)

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Mad Rocket Scientist

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To take this wayyy into realm of the absurd, I will suggest the urge for variety partly comes from the Kerbals themselves (bottom trivia point, here): some believe Minimus is made of mint ice cream :)

If someone wanted to base their ISRU off of THAT, well, Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors :):sticktongue:

Ice cream ISRU? Genius!

Someone needs to do this!

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kofeyh

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Ore.

Yes, that will work fine. I was concerned it might gain some awkward non-relevant name that has no reference to anything actually existing (leading to mass confusion when speaking of game mechanics to people whom have yet to obtain KSP, for example).

Never mind the translation issues.

Ore is a generic term, used to described "unrefined solid material". This doesn't mean the valuable constituents have to actually be a solid. Mercury, for example is extracted from a source ore, which vaporises under heat, and is cooled (condensed) to become a liquid metal (queue Terminators theme).

All sorts of complex molecules, some of which quite like to burn can become trapped within rock and ore.

The concept that you could mine ore, crush and extract valuable propellants or materials to form propellent certainly isn't a new one. At least two or three mars missions (including from NASA) are based on the concept of using raw materials located in-situ to make propellant.

Not sure they're pounding on rocks; but extracting valuable resources from solid ore is certainly very well established and has been for eons, just considering our own history.

The biggest advantage, is that Ore can contain such a wide array of components. It's non-specific meaning the source 'ore' could be used for mods to extract just about anything you could think of. So it's actually quite a sensible choice.

I sense RoverDude's rather logical hand in the naming process, just quietly. :)

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RoverDude

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Given that's pretty much what NASA plans on doing (i.e. breaking up rocks to get stuff out of them, including stuff for propellants), then yep. Makes perfect sense ;)

(I shall leave this here since I can anticipate the next question...)

Ore (noun) a naturally occurring solid material from which a metal or valuable mineral can be profitably extracted.

There are examples of non-metallic ores, just not a lot of them (Asbestos is one, for example). And one could argue that on a planet or moon where oxygen and hydrogen are extremely valuable, and can be profitably extracted from a naturally occurring solid material (like lunar regolith), then yes, in that case, one term that could be used to describe the stuff we're extracting fuel from is 'Ore'.

Also note that Ore is not, contrary to popular belief, a geological term. It is an economic term. Go in your back yard. Take a shovel full of dirt. the instant it becomes economically valuable to extract the trace amounts of gold, platinum, or other valuable elements from that dirt is the instant it goes from being 'dirt' to 'ore'.

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