[WIP][1.9.x-1.12.x] Scatterer-atmospheric scattering (0.0838 - 14/08/2022) Scattering improvements, in-game atmo generation and multi-sun support

[rbray89]

Btw I noticed something really weird the other day, while testing multiplanet support I noticed memory was never freed after unloading a planet (from scatterer). I was doing everything correctly so this was completely weird. I decided to just call the collector myself after each unload operation and it just worked, memory was being freed correctly and everything. So what the hell, does KSP never call the collector on it's own?

Probably. One of the downsides of c# is that the built-in GC makes devs less than responsible with memory. Always call the destructor when removing things.

[NAMROG]

Curious, but is there a reason why, at times, Kerbin is a blue marble with no land from orbit? I've noticed it every once in a while and was wondering if there's a fix?

[Whirligig Girl]

"RSS Compatibility" isn't worth a Dingo's Kidneys.

When it is enabled, the game slows to a standstill and there is NREs. Not a spam of them, but they are definitely there, and definitely caused by Scatterer. I have no issues with Scatterer in stock scale, only in RSS.

Output_Log.txt

EDIT: The problem is that ParentPlanetTransformName = Kerbin instead of ParentPlanetTransformName = Earth. It should say Earth, not Kerbin. Changing that fixed it.

Unfortunately the orbit shader does not appear to function. :/

Edited November 12, 2015 by GregroxMun

[blackrack]

"RSS Compatibility" isn't worth a Dingo's Kidneys.

When it is enabled, the game slows to a standstill and there is NREs. Not a spam of them, but they are definitely there, and definitely caused by Scatterer. I have no issues with Scatterer in stock scale, only in RSS.

Output_Log.txt

EDIT: The problem is that ParentPlanetTransformName = Kerbin instead of ParentPlanetTransformName = Earth. It should say Earth, not Kerbin. Changing that fixed it.

Could you stop complaining about this? Every couple pages I have to say this was already reported.

[Whirligig Girl]

Could you stop complaining about this? Every couple pages I have to say this was already reported.

I apologize. Putting it in the OP would help?

[blackrack]

I apologize. Putting it in the OP would help?

done.

[Whirligig Girl]

done.

You could put also "Change the Kerbin in ParentPlanetTransformName to say Earth" so that it is helpful to players who want it to work.

[G'th]

Is there any way to get rid of the "banding" that occurs at certain altitudes?

[Elthy]

There would be a limit... I think it is 8K for unity (and most hardware) but I could be wrong.

Damn, thats sad. With 64bit we could finaly have almost unlimited detail, afaik Nasa released Earth textures with over 20000*20000 pixels.

[lextacy]

Getting this problem after installing Scatterer for RSS and using EVE/RVE overhaul. There is harsh borders as you can see, plus there is a black halo around the sun. I removed the clouds so you guys can see the problem better.

[Hattivat]

I think RVE pretty explicitly instructs you not to use the RSS version of Scaterrer in its readme.

[mythbusters844]

You could put also "Change the Kerbin in ParentPlanetTransformName to say Earth" so that it is helpful to players who want it to work.

You could also try to realize that not all players are like you and actually try to figure things out on their own

It's also already there:

RSS compatibility:

[spoiler: click to see]

RSS only changes the name of the CelestialBody to Earth; it leaves the scaledversion transform/gameobject named Kerbin. Scatterer now handles this, if you wish to play with RSS, put the following in the "config/PlanetName.txt" file

ParentPlanetCelestialBodyName = Earth

ParentPlanetTransformName = Kerbin

Edited November 14, 2015 by mythbusters844

[lextacy]

I think RVE pretty explicitly instructs you not to use the RSS version of Scaterrer in its readme.

Is there any way to get rid of the "banding" that occurs at certain altitudes?

I went back and checked install....it appears I never even had scatter installed fully. My bad.

[Goddess Bhavani]

1.0.5 near stock install - during one late afternoon I looked at the slowly setting sun and its awesome lens flare and suddenly my framerates dropped to 1/3. Running on a nVidia 850M here. Any way to get the old lens flare back (or tell me off to not look at the sun? ) hehe

[HafCoJoe]

1.0.5 near stock install - during one late afternoon I looked at the slowly setting sun and its awesome lens flare and suddenly my framerates dropped to 1/3. Running on a nVidia 850M here. Any way to get the old lens flare back (or tell me off to not look at the sun? ) hehe

Yeah jeez Pandoras Kitten! No staring at the sun!

[lextacy]

1.0.5 near stock install - during one late afternoon I looked at the slowly setting sun and its awesome lens flare and suddenly my framerates dropped to 1/3. Running on a nVidia 850M here. Any way to get the old lens flare back (or tell me off to not look at the sun? ) hehe

to get old flare back you will have to get the sharedasset back from an original KSP repo , unless of course you backed up that file you replaced to get the sunflare

[Whirligig Girl]

You could also try to realize that not all players are like you and actually try to figure things out on their own

It's also already there:

I did figure it out on my own, and the instructions in the RSS compatibility spoiler are wrong, because they tell you to put ParentPlanetTransformName equal to Kerbin instead of Earth.

EDIT: The problem is that ParentPlanetTransformName = Kerbin instead of ParentPlanetTransformName = Earth. It should say Earth, not Kerbin. Changing that fixed it.

I figured that out on my own. And given that Blackrack said:

Every couple pages I have to say this was already reported.

It is entirely possible that a lot of players were the type of people who don't try and figure things out on their own. And for those players, a simple fix of the part of the OP that says ParentPlanetTransformName = Kerbin to change it to ParentPlanetTransformName = Earth (which makes it work) would suffice. Simply putting the correct information in the OP is what I was suggesting.

This would be helpful because not all players are like me, they don't all actually try to figure things out on their own. (see what I did there?)

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In fact, pretty much full RSS compatibility can be had if you have:

Settings config

MapViewScale = 10.61
//10.61 because Earth is slightly larger than 10x Kerbin.

and

PlanetName config

ParentPlanetCelestialBodyName = Earth
ParentPlanetTransformName = Earth

Proof:

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Note: In RSS using KSP 1.0.5 you will also get MissingFieldExceptions logspam. This is because of the Kopernicus plugin not being compatible, not because of RSS config and/or Scatterer.

Edited November 14, 2015 by GregroxMun

[blackrack]

NathanKell himself said the transform name should be left as kerbin (hardcoded) and the celestialbody name is earth. I don't know how you're getting this to work but something else must be broken somewhere. The op doesn't have false information.

[Whirligig Girl]

NathanKell himself said the transform name should be left as kerbin (hardcoded) and the celestialbody name is earth. I don't know how you're getting this to work but something else must be broken somewhere. The op doesn't have false information.

Well at the very least, it can be made to work this way. I am confused why this works too, actually. It definitely works with the changes to the config that I made. I think that since RSS converted to the Kopernicus plugin it is a new body instead of modifying the stock Kerbin, which might have something to do with it.

RSSKopernicus.cfg

Body
	{
		name = Kerbin
		//nameLater = Earth
		cbNameLater = Earth
		Template
		{
			name = Kerbin
		}
                ... more stuff
         }

Actually, that does say the name = Kerbin. I really am confused as to why the fix works. The only thing I can say with certainty is that changing the scatterer config seems to work well except for one thing: The tracking station does not show any scatterer on it at all, only in-flight map view.

Edited November 14, 2015 by GregroxMun

[blackrack]

Effects are disabled on the tracking station right now, I might enable them later though I don't really see the point, I want the tracking station screen to be snappy and load fast

[Whirligig Girl]

Effects are disabled on the tracking station right now, I might enable them later though I don't really see the point, I want the tracking station screen to be snappy and load fast

I figured that was the case, I just forgot if it was like that normally or not.

[Red Iron Crown]

Effects are disabled on the tracking station right now, I might enable them later though I don't really see the point, I want the tracking station screen to be snappy and load fast

Is there a way to have them off by default in map mode? I kinda want my map to be...a map.

[blackrack]

Is there a way to have them off by default in map mode? I kinda want my map to be...a map.

I'll make this an option.

Edited: We space engine now

(decided to stick Kerbin's atmo on Jool for testing, it doesn't even look half bad, will try custom, greener configs soon)

Edited November 14, 2015 by blackrack

[Whirligig Girl]

I'll make this an option.

Edited: We space engine now

http://i.imgur.com/ba2P6C1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LAMMZY4.jpg

(decided to stick Kerbin's atmo on Jool for testing, it doesn't even look half bad, will try custom, greener configs soon)

A few days ago I looked at pictures of the real planets and remembered that for Little Green Men from Mars I had made Mars' atmosphere rims blue, and wondered what the stock planets would look like with blue rims. They look pretty great even in with the default rim effects (modified using Kopernicus to all use bluish tinted ramps) and here's what I got:

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I was going to release it but then remembered scatterer was a thing that was much better anyway, and it would soon have multi-planet support.

[TyrannoFan]

Do those planets (especially Saturn) really have blue tinged edges that are that noticeable? I'm no expert, but could it look like that because of telescope or camera related reasons?