devikwolf Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 RPM remains one of my "required" mods for KSP, absolutely love the depth it adds to the game! One thing I've been looking for, lately, is an external window which can display an RPM camera feed without needing to be in IVA. I can't seem to find anything that accomplishes this right now. Anyone have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Blue Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 @devikwolf Hmmm... Not sure exactly what you are looking for, but if you are talking about external camera views (using actual camera parts you place on the craft), I believe RPM doesnt really have that function by itself.. I believe it uses the Hullcam mod to provide the basic functionality, which RPM then takes the "feed" from, and displays it in an RPM monitor in IVA... So basically, what it sounds like what you want, is the Hullcam mod itself, or maybe the Docking Camera KURS Style mod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devikwolf Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Ahh, I have the camera mods and I can view the camera feeds from IVA. But, I would like a way to be able to view those cameras during ship design as well as when flying the ship while not inside of IVA. I thought it was part of the RPM base package, but I guess it's part of the Hullcam mod instead! I've been installing RPM + a couple of other mod packs combined together for a while, so I forgot they're provided separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylar' Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Hi all, i was in may way to home from full iva mision ike. and thats what i saw. at first i thinked that may can be probe but at close look i saw my own hach with my crew. it stacionary and not travel with me i think he's just always near me(can't see it in eva outside.), kinda creepy it may be problem of mod fps droping ? Edited January 25, 2016 by Skylar' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyjackMeat Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Maps in MFDs don't work. [EXC 21:05:25.344] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object SCANsat.SCANcontroller.unloadPQS (.CelestialBody b, Boolean map) SCANsat.SCAN_Map.SCANmap.setBody (.CelestialBody b) SCANsat.SCAN_UI.JSISCANsatRPM.RedrawMap () SCANsat.SCAN_UI.JSISCANsatRPM.OnUpdate () InternalProp.OnUpdate () InternalModel.OnUpdate () Part.InternalOnUpdate () Part.Update () Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, PyjackMeat said: Maps in MFDs don't work. [EXC 21:05:25.344] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object SCANsat.SCANcontroller.unloadPQS (.CelestialBody b, Boolean map) SCANsat.SCAN_Map.SCANmap.setBody (.CelestialBody b) SCANsat.SCAN_UI.JSISCANsatRPM.RedrawMap () SCANsat.SCAN_UI.JSISCANsatRPM.OnUpdate () InternalProp.OnUpdate () InternalModel.OnUpdate () Part.InternalOnUpdate () Part.Update () Please provide a full log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devikwolf Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, PyjackMeat said: Maps in MFDs don't work. [EXC 21:05:25.344] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object SCANsat.SCANcontroller.unloadPQS (.CelestialBody b, Boolean map) SCANsat.SCAN_Map.SCANmap.setBody (.CelestialBody b) SCANsat.SCAN_UI.JSISCANsatRPM.RedrawMap () SCANsat.SCAN_UI.JSISCANsatRPM.OnUpdate () InternalProp.OnUpdate () InternalModel.OnUpdate () Part.InternalOnUpdate () Part.Update () As I always say on these nullref exceptions: "well, did you try to set the object reference? You should set it to the instance of an object." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyjackMeat Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, MOARdV said: Please provide a full log. https://www.dropbox.com/s/oposqxlvdqmgcqr/output_log.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 hours ago, PyjackMeat said: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oposqxlvdqmgcqr/output_log.txt You have a lot of mods installed, and one of them looks like it's throwing an exception every fixed update: MissingFieldException: Field '.TemperatureGagueSystem.showGagues' not found. There are a variety of other exceptions in the log. The SCANsat exception you quoted above is part of SCANsat - it's the plugin from that mod that allows it to render on RPM screens. You can check on the SCANsat thread to see if it's a known issue, although I'd recommend a better first step would be to make a copy of your KSP install with only RPM and SCANsat installed, and see if it reproduces in that configuration. The repeated MissingFieldException may be causing problems that interfere with other mods. Considering that the exception happens in SCANsat's unloadPQS method, and it looks like the dev version of EVE you're using has a 'PQSManager', there could be interactions there as well. Again, I recommend checking with a minimal installation to see if the problem is reproducible without other mods' interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyjackMeat Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am currently using RPM 0.24.2.1 and MechJeb 2.5.5.0-555, but in the monitor tab "Auto", I'm getting the message "Autopilot software not installed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, PyjackMeat said: I am currently using RPM 0.24.2.1 and MechJeb 2.5.5.0-555, but in the monitor tab "Auto", I'm getting the message "Autopilot software not installed." MJ 2.5.5 build 555 is a fairly recent build of MJ. It is entirely likely that @sarbian made changes to some of the MechJeb interfaces recently. Since the last official release of MJ works with the current version of RPM, I don't expect to update RasterPropMonitor before KSP 1.1. Real LifeTM has been extremely busy lately and I don't have the time to work on interim releases (or even play KSP, for that matter ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMagic Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On 1/27/2016 at 4:40 PM, PyjackMeat said: Maps in MFDs don't work. On 1/28/2016 at 10:14 PM, MOARdV said: The SCANsat exception you quoted above is part of SCANsat - it's the plugin from that mod that allows it to render on RPM screens. You can check on the SCANsat thread to see if it's a known issue, although I'd recommend a better first step would be to make a copy of your KSP install with only RPM and SCANsat installed, and see if it reproduces in that configuration. The repeated MissingFieldException may be causing problems that interfere with other mods. Considering that the exception happens in SCANsat's unloadPQS method, and it looks like the dev version of EVE you're using has a 'PQSManager', there could be interactions there as well. Again, I recommend checking with a minimal installation to see if the problem is reproducible without other mods' interference. All of the SCANsat RPM stuff was moved into SCANsat a long time ago. But this is actually a SCANsat + RMP + Kopernicus problem. I know what the cause is, just a dumb mistake in how RPM maps are created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarbian Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 8 hours ago, MOARdV said: MJ 2.5.5 build 555 is a fairly recent build of MJ. It is entirely likely that @sarbian made changes to some of the MechJeb interfaces recently. Since the last official release of MJ works with the current version of RPM, I don't expect to update RasterPropMonitor before KSP 1.1. Real LifeTM has been extremely busy lately and I don't have the time to work on interim releases (or even play KSP, for that matter ). I did and there will be even larger change before 1.1 so you are right to wait. In the mean time it someone can point me to the code RPM use to interface with MJ I can see if I can add some stub to make it work for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 hours ago, sarbian said: I did and there will be even larger change before 1.1 so you are right to wait. In the mean time it someone can point me to the code RPM use to interface with MJ I can see if I can add some stub to make it work for now. Pretty messy code (my apology), but it's probably around here: https://github.com/Mihara/RasterPropMonitor/blob/master/RasterPropMonitor/Handlers/JSIMechJeb.cs#L283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarbian Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It is not as if I never write messy code myself MJ-Dev #557 should work with RPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 So htis mod has transparent windows as well as interior control panels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Andem said: So htis mod has transparent windows as well as interior control panels? If a pod were set up to use the transparent windows, you would get transparent windows. It doesn't work on stock parts. The main focus of this mod is making the interior functional and worth visiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, MOARdV said: If a pod were set up to use the transparent windows, you would get transparent windows. It doesn't work on stock parts. The main focus of this mod is making the interior functional and worth visiting. Oh. so how would one set up transparent windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPLRepo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Andem said: Oh. so how would one set up transparent windows? You have to create your mod's models to the specifications and configure it to use the JSITransparentPod module as per the wiki here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RA3236 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Uhhh... Anyone else noticed the Mk1 Cockpit doesn't work becuase of its IVA update??? You know, with the stock IVA upgrades and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 4 hours ago, RA3236 said: Uhhh... Anyone else noticed the Mk1 Cockpit doesn't work becuase of its IVA update??? You know, with the stock IVA upgrades and such. I mentioned that in release notes in November for v0.24.0. My comment from that time still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwith Noname Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) This mod... ...might solve the MKI IVA issue. Edit: I'm also sure I've seen a mod that does upgraded IVAs as you progress through the tech tree. So it starts out with analogue guages and as you open up more tech you end up with a full glass cockpit....but I can't remember what it was called and my google fu is letting me down. Another Edit: Hah, the other mod I'm thinking of is linked in the OP...AeroKerbin Industries. Edited February 13, 2016 by Manwith Noname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMasterson5 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 @MOARdV, I am trying to add an external camera to my part and I cant get it to work. I have it labeled as"cameraTransform" and parented to the model but when I try to view it on a RPM screen it says viewing external screen 1 but just shows a black screen, any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOARdV Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 12 hours ago, TMasterson5 said: @MOARdV, I am trying to add an external camera to my part and I cant get it to work. I have it labeled as"cameraTransform" and parented to the model but when I try to view it on a RPM screen it says viewing external screen 1 but just shows a black screen, any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help! Do you have the external camera module set up correctly on the part? Look at the examples in JSI/RasterPropMonitor/ThirdPartySupport/hullcam-models-as-external-cameras.cfg for examples of the MODULE that needs to be added to the part config. Also take a look in the log to see if there are errors happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Hi all, I'm enjoying laying out the RPM controls for my Mk1-85 Backseat for my MOLE mod, and I have a question about setting up camera pages. I understand that there is a PAGE object of some sort that you define for the monitor, but how do you do that for a specific IVA? For instance, I have defined four camera transforms: cameraTransformFront, cameraTransformLeft, cameraTransformRight, and cameraTransformBottom. I know that the IVA has PROP definitions for RasterPropMonitorBasicMFD. Do I need to add a part module to the IVA to define the pages for the cameras? Are there tutorials on that? I checked the Wiki but couldn't find what I needed. For reference, here is the RPM version of my Backseat's IVA flight controls: Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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