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I must admit that I really like them, can SQUAD should seriously consider the sale of film rights for Diseney Pixar i think all seats in a movie will be filled with kids and not only them :-)

Such a film could renew interest of policy makers in space flights, let me remand all of you that Disney with Von Braun (apparently most famous ex-.... ;-) ) once created such movie in past that sparked Program Apollo :D

However, I have some reservations about the last video clip , in my view this video directly relates to the space shuttle Challenger disaster, it's a bit in bad taste, at least in my opinion. I wonder what will happen when the next update will be released. Fire in a capsule?

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Mostly I like the videos but it does annoy me that they often seem to focus on things going horribly wrong. To me at least the glory of KSP is when things go magnificently right.

In my opinion, Guys from Squad, watch too many disaster movies.

To much Armageddon and Apollo 13 :D

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Mostly I like the videos but it does annoy me that they often seem to focus on things going horribly wrong. To me at least the glory of KSP is when things go magnificently right.

Yeah but showing things going right would be false advertising :D

For me, the best parts are when something goes horribly wrong but I manage to pull trough anyway.

To answer the OP, I like 'em, but could live without 'em. They're not for us anyway, they're to get people who haven't bought the game to check it out.

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They should add the videos to an "Extras" selection of the starting menu to get more people aware of them. They are quite entertaining and most players wouldn't find them otherwise. There doesn't seem to be a natural place to add them as cutscenes in-game.

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The clips are great, there should be cutscenes like that in the game (toggleable of course) ! I agree that the 1.0 release clip is a bit morbid... and about fire in the capsule , there sadly *is* a "joke" about it... Gus Kerman in the KSC has a description that says "we hope nothing catches fire while he's here" ... not very funny when you know that Gus is the name of an Apollo 1 astronaut

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I couldn't care less about them. All that effort should have been put into the game.

In all honesty, I think players would be even more baffled if there wasn't a teaser at all :P

I didn't know they were directly referencing to the Challenger disaster, but then again, it does look kinda similar..

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I would've liked it better if the crew at least survived, though.. Their relief after the survival of the explosion felt good to the viewer.. until the parachute tore off IMHO.

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I couldn't care less about them. All that effort should have been put into the game.

Yeah, this.

I didn't know they were directly referencing to the Challenger disaster, but then again, it does look kinda similar.

I also picked up the reference to NASA's alleged secret tapes of the crew screaming and crying and praying as the fell to earth.

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I didn't know they were directly referencing to the Challenger disaster, but then again, it does look kinda similar..
I also picked up the reference to NASA's alleged secret tapes of the crew screaming and crying and praying as the fell to earth.

And I doubt it was intentional/a reference ...

Furthermore if we would exclude anything similar to any desaster from any piece of fiction, there would not be much left to create ...

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I didn't know they were directly referencing to the Challenger disaster, but then again, it does look kinda similar..

There aren't a lot of ways a rocket can blow up. Fuel tank explosion causes a giant fireball with flaming chunks of shrapnel flying away from it.

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I couldn't care less about them. All that effort should have been put into the game.

I hate to be cynical, but I agree with this. This is partly due to being one of a small group who are suffering really bad performance issues in 1.0.x (see these threads stutter issue | poor performance). I can barely play KSP right now unless it's with very simple designs, and even then there are so many minor (and some major) bugs that it's not really an enjoyable experience, so great, I can watch the cute little vids, can't actually play the game.

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I hate to be cynical, but I agree with this. This is partly due to being one of a small group who are suffering really bad performance issues in 1.0.x (see these threads stutter issue | poor performance). I can barely play KSP right now unless it's with very simple designs, and even then there are so many minor (and some major) bugs that it's not really an enjoyable experience, so great, I can watch the cute little vids, can't actually play the game.

Pretty sure the animation was done by a animator, not a developer.

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although the 1.0 trailer is not explicitly referring to Challenger or the audio tapes of the dying crew (it did not evocate this to me when i saw it), it is very sad and doesn't really represent what ksp is, the point of game after all isn't to kill kerbals (afaik)...

What bugs me is the very explicit reference to Apollo 1 and Gus Kerman (see my post above). It's not very respectful...

Back on the subjects, i gotta agree with regex... the videos are very nice (this is undeniable, they do look good) but they serve no purpose if they aren't in the game.

Also, the trailer videos show clouds all over the place and yet we haven't got a single stock cloud in 1.0. Pretty disappointing

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Back on the subjects, i gotta agree with regex... the videos are very nice (this is undeniable, they do look good) but they serve no purpose if they aren't in the game.

Also, the trailer videos show clouds all over the place and yet we haven't got a single stock cloud in 1.0. Pretty disappointing

Couldn't agree more with you guys! Reminds of that type of games that have triple-A quality trailer graphics and Spongebob level graphics in-game. I mean like this:

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IMHO water revamp and cloud addition should be near the top of priority list. The pinnacle of environment design of game released in 2015 can't be tree/rock scatter that pushes the RAM usage to absurd levels.

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Also, the trailer videos show clouds all over the place and yet we haven't got a single stock cloud in 1.0. Pretty disappointing

This. Resources and MP are fine extras but not nearly as important as debugging, clouds and overall balance (aero, heat and parts associated with them). Clouds should've been in the game ages ago.

Now transition to Unity 5 is the most important thing and everyone should focus on that and making the game 64bit again but after that clouds should come fast.

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I enjoy the videos, but I have to agree the 1.0 one was in pretty bad taste (along with the Gus Grissom joke). I don't know, maybe I've just seen the Challenger footage one time too many, but even when something like that happens to me in actual gameplay, it just makes me a little queasy in a way other spectacular failures don't.

Maybe they should've ended it with Gene hitting a big "Revert Flight" button in Mission Control.

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I love the videos and certainly got me to check the game in the first place (before 1.0).

I find the disasters are part of the philosophy of KSP. The trial-and-error way of building rockets, backyard rocketry, etc.

There is also glory on success, but I think the videos show what the beginner will actually face. A nice and shiny brand new rocket blown up, back to building and nothing happens.

For a better taste, I agree Kerbals should always survive in the videos.

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I'm a big fan of them. Especially the implication that you shouldn't take this too seriously.

But not the latest one. It left us hanging (even though it strongly implied a bad end). The 1.0 video should have been about glorious success. Since they "never found the body," so to speak, they can salvage it - we all know how durable jetpack-EVA kerbals are, and there's already evidence in the "First Contract" video of a Kerbonaut surviving some unspecified disaster with only blackened face. An angry debrief session with the three of them looking like that in the next video is therefore not without precedent.

One might even make the argument that the "First Contract" video and the release video are anachronistic, and the Jeb's Junkyard scene is the aftermath of the Launch disaster, but that leaves open the question of where the other two Kerbonauts are. It's also the wrong time of day for the actual impact to happen, but there are already inconsistencies in the Launch video (like the sunrise being from the north) to make that more like a movie editing error.

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The biggest beef I have with them is: why don't they turn up in the game? Maybe as small unlockable upgrading the buildings (or similar). This way, they are fully decoupled from the game, which is a pity.

But altogether, I like them.

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I have not seen the latest ones. But as for having 1.0 being glorious success... how about a middle ground?

Imagine, if you will, a video that shows them struggling but finally achieving a glorious success, a perfect rocket flying effortlessly towards Mun, Kerbals all smiling.

And then one picks up the Mk-16 parachute with a look of "where was this bit supposed to go?"

:sticktongue:

(Because seriously, who HASN'T done that at least once?!)

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Let's not forget that even the menu screens show kerbals lost in orbit and a crashed lander on Mun.

Is there evidence of *any* successful mission in the KSP showcase?

Especially the implication that you shouldn't take this too seriously.

Ninja edit to aggree with this ^

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I have not seen the latest ones. But as for having 1.0 being glorious success... how about a middle ground?

Imagine, if you will, a video that shows them struggling but finally achieving a glorious success, a perfect rocket flying effortlessly towards Mun, Kerbals all smiling.

And then one picks up the Mk-16 parachute with a look of "where was this bit supposed to go?"

:sticktongue:

(Because seriously, who HASN'T done that at least once?!)

I renege, this would have been much better.

Also, my earlier post went off half-cocked because I was on mobile; it's been edited and is complete now.

Let's not forget that even the menu screens show kerbals lost in orbit and a crashed lander on Mun.

Is there evidence of *any* successful mission in the KSP showcase?

The ARM video is unambiguously successful.

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