LiquidHype's Real Scale Launch Vehicles (RETIRED)

[VenomousRequiem]

Holy Jesus! Looking at the new things... good job! Very good!

I've always had a special connection to Vega... it was... my first...

Really, your Vega is the first LV I ever successfully got into orbit in RSS with! I was super proud. But now it looks even better! Huzzah for stuff!

[liquidhype]

Holy Jesus! Looking at the new things... good job! Very good!

I've always had a special connection to Vega... it was... my first...

Really, your Vega is the first LV I ever successfully got into orbit in RSS with! I was super proud. But now it looks even better! Huzzah for stuff!

Thank you for that Yea I figured I might as well start posting pictures of what is to come with the new update on the first page. People keep sending me PMs asking for progress pictures, so to anyone who are curious, they can have a look-see on the first page of this thread.

I'm glad you like Vega, VenomousRequiem Hope you'll like the updated version just as much.

[Sampa]

Hey, when i get my laptop back and can start filming, i think i will use some of these to replacethe. Old lionhead parts for my space station builder youtube series. You use the shell fairings, right?

[liquidhype]

Hey, when i get my laptop back and can start filming, i think i will use some of these to replacethe. Old lionhead parts for my space station builder youtube series. You use the shell fairings, right?

Yes, I do use the oldschool clamshell fairings (KW Rocketry/AIES style). I do not like the stock procedural fairings, and they would in no way look right for any real scale replica.

If you are using Mike-NZs ISS parts for your station, the ATVs that are getting added in the new update should fit just fine. In any case, I will add a TweakScale module to the ATV so that anyone who wants to, can scale them to any size they see fit.

[_Augustus_]

Not bad! I will definitely download the Titan IV when it comes out, I love that thing

[Sampa]

Yes, I do use the oldschool clamshell fairings (KW Rocketry/AIES style). I do not like the stock procedural fairings, and they would in no way look right for any real scale replica.

If you are using Mike-NZs ISS parts for your station, the ATVs that are getting added in the new update should fit just fine. In any case, I will add a TweakScale module to the ATV so that anyone who wants to, can scale them to any size they see fit.

Cool, and yes, i have offered the iss parts as a part of the list of mod parts people can choose to use to build their stat ion parts

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Btw, here's a link to theseries:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/136175-Station-Builder-%28Youtube-Video-Series%29

[liquidhype]

Latest version of RL10-B-2. I gave it the black-ish purple tint that it had in the real world. Most pictures of it shows un-used engines which have been standing out in the sun for years, giving them a faded grey color. I found a couple of pictures showing the engine being prepared for DCSS attachment, and those all had the purple tint to them, so I went with that. Now I just need to add some minor texture details to the tanks and then the Delta III should be good to go.

[Kartoffelkuchen]

Are you sure that it really looks that way as you made it now? Check this image:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Second_stage_of_a_Delta_IV_Medium_rocket.jpg

It's mostly grey-metallic, I would only give it a tiny bit of orange-dark tint, if at all. And all other images shows nozzle in a grey-metallic colour, even engines on a test stand. I believe you've made it a bit too purple-orange.

@Sampa: Thanks!

[liquidhype]

Are you sure that it really looks that way as you made it now? Check this image:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Second_stage_of_a_Delta_IV_Medium_rocket.jpg

It's mostly grey-metallic, I would only give it a tiny bit of orange-dark tint, if at all. And all other images shows nozzle in a grey-metallic colour, even engines on a test stand. I believe you've made it a bit too purple-orange.

@Sampa: Thanks!

That was my initial thought as well, but according to my main source of reference (whom I can not name here), told me that this http://gallery.military.ir/albums/userpics/10198/RL-10B-2_2.jpg is what it looked like when flown on the Delta III.

The image on the left is of a mock-up that has been out in the sun, whilst the one on the right was the one flown on the first Delta III. Also I believe the image you just posted is of the DCSS for the Delta IV medium?

Maybe anyone else would like to weigh in?

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Also, here is the actual engine on the pad for the Delta III that was flown in 1998. As you can see, it actually was dark-grey almost black with a golden/orange-ish nozzle.

Edited October 16, 2015 by liquidhype

[Kartoffelkuchen]

OK, I will check L2 for me. But if you compare the latest picture you posted and your RL, I'd still make it a bit more greyish again.

[liquidhype]

OK, I will check L2 for me. But if you compare the latest picture you posted and your RL, I'd still make it a bit more greyish again.

Sure, I can always make it more grey. I mean, it's pretty much up to intepretation in terms of how black it should be. But I agree my engine looks a bit too black when I look at it now.

Also on a side-note, even the Delta IV medium has flown with an almost pitch black RL10 nozzle skirt. But all RL10s that flew on D3 were more black than grey. In fact almost every picture you find of an D3 RL10 is black. You just have to know which engine actually flew on the vehicle, and not confuse it with other RL10s.

[liquidhype]

Someone recently asked me about texture-switching for the Delta III. Well I already did that, but forgot to post pictures, so, here those are as well. Keep in mind the DCSS textures are still undergoing some minor changes and texture detailing

Edited October 16, 2015 by liquidhype

[01010101lzy]

Are you planning to add some RealFules configs?

[liquidhype]

Are you planning to add some RealFules configs?

Yes The stock fuels are much to heavy to use, so they are just "placeholder" fuels for now. Apparently people are already making RO configs for the mod, so if you play in RSSRO you should be fine. If not, then you can wait for the new update. The next update will have configs for most types of gameplay (stock, RSS, RSSRO, RemoteTech and so on).

[Delta_8930]

I'm having some troubles with the Delta III, when I get to 5500 meters in altitude it always pitches either left or right for at least 90 degrees. Can anyone please help me?

[liquidhype]

I am curious why that is. I've not had any issues flying it in either stock or RSS, nor have I had other people telling me they are having difficulties getting it into orbit. Have you got Kerbal Joint Reinforcement installed? These rockets in this mod are all to scale, which means they are alot bigger and heavier than most standard rockets in KSP. They need Kerbal Joint Reinforcement in order to not completely buckle whilst pitching.

Anyways, I've removed the download for this mod until the next update (which should be ready in a day or two). If KJR doesn't solve your problems, I suggest waiting for the new update, which will have massive amounts of changes to all the launchers in the mod, like new models, textures, new parts, better balancing, misc improvements and of course the two versions of Ariane 5 + ATV.

[Delta_8930]

All right, Thanks so much!

[Mecripp]

You guys really with KJR whats up, I haven't had to use that mod sense KSP .25 and haven't had a problem with any rockets ? And, I can build a crazy rocket and can see it make a C and it won't come apart at first what are you guys build that you would need that mod not to say there has been a couple of time it was that mod that was buggy the whole thing maybe it's a windows bug ya'll have weak joints ?

EDIT- And @liquidhype any news on the ULA Vulcan

Edited October 17, 2015 by Mecripp2

[Delta_8930]

I don't think its a joint problem; the rocket does not fall apart. I think it has something to do with the Center of Mass and 1.0 aerodynamics...the Delta 3 looks a bit "top heavy".

[01010101lzy]

Yes The stock fuels are much to heavy to use, so they are just "placeholder" fuels for now. Apparently people are already making RO configs for the mod, so if you play in RSSRO you should be fine. If not, then you can wait for the new update. The next update will have configs for most types of gameplay (stock, RSS, RSSRO, RemoteTech and so on).

Great! looking forward to next update:)

[liquidhype]

You guys really with KJR whats up, I haven't had to use that mod sense KSP .25 and haven't had a problem with any rockets ? And, I can build a crazy rocket and can see it make a C and it won't come apart at first what are you guys build that you would need that mod not to say there has been a couple of time it was that mod that was buggy the whole thing maybe it's a windows bug ya'll have weak joints ?

EDIT- And @liquidhype any news on the ULA Vulcan

Not everyone has the same experience with the game, and not everyone are "gentle" when it comes to getting their rockets on the correct pitch angle. It is completely possible to get these rockets into orbit without KRJ, but because I don't feel like responding to every person who asks why their rockets are breaking apart, I decided to add KJR as a dependency If you don't want to use KJR, don't use KJR.

As an example, the upcoming Ariane 5's core fuel tank alone is roughly 230 tonnes. If you add everything else to it, it becomes very heavy. So if you have people who are not very skilled when it comes to launching rockets in KSP, they will end up having the rockets snap in half as soon as they deviate 10 degrees off vector.

[mark7]

well，cant wait to get the update……Also，I remember there was going to have a Delta Heavy in this pack？So，any word about that？

[liquidhype]

well，cant wait to get the update……Also，I remember there was going to have a Delta Heavy in this pack？So，any word about that？

Delta IV is going to be in Kartoffelkuchens "Launchers Pack". Be sure to keep up to date on his progress here

[liquidhype]

Pretty happy with how the final textures for the RL10-B-2 engine turned out. I managed to replicate the engine/thrust chamber pretty accurately. Keep in mind the models looks pretty glossy in the picture. They will looks more natural in the game itself. I also implemented texture switching for the DCSS' LH2 tank in addition to having the optional "matte green" for the first stage tank.

So with this I think I'm pretty much done upgrading Delta III. What do you guys say, do you want it now as a separate download, or should I wait and include it in the full Ariane 5 update? Let me know

Edited October 19, 2015 by liquidhype

[Kerbal01]

Wait for Ariane 5, then release.