Top Gun AI - The Official Tournament Thread

[PTGFlyer]

Yeah, it's the 19th now.

[VR_Dev]

So I've been trying to get in on this for a while, but I always forget.

[VR_Dev]

I was also thinking that I could write a kOS script to get them into starting positions if you guys want.

[CreativeCombat]

On 2/18/2016 at 0:01 PM, DoctorDavinci said:

Is this competition still on?

My computer has finally been fixed after approximately nineteen days of being either completely unusable, or in the ever-swift-to-fix hands of GeekSquad.  I just have to film the tournament now and it will finally be done with and ready for your viewing pleasure. 

 

EDIT: Assuming they actually fixed it, that is. 

EDIT 2: Which it turns out they didn't. 

Edited February 19, 2016 by CreativeCombat

[Combatsmithen]

On 2/19/2016 at 4:52 PM, CreativeCombat said:

My computer has finally been fixed after approximately nineteen days of being either completely unusable, or in the ever-swift-to-fix hands of GeekSquad.  I just have to film the tournament now and it will finally be done with and ready for your viewing pleasure. 

 

EDIT: Assuming they actually fixed it, that is. 

EDIT 2: Which it turns out they didn't. 

well that sucks

[Triop]

On 19-2-2016 at 6:32 PM, clown_baby said:

I was also thinking that I could write a kOS script to get them into starting positions if you guys want.

Good idea, this thread needs some serious work btw...

 

[colmo]

Bahamuto has introduced a competition mode in BDA. Moving planes into starting positions no longer matters, they fly apart to a preset distance then turn and engage. He specifically was thinking of us and the BAD-T competition.

[drtricky]

I've made some slight revisions to my hybrid fighter-heavy bomber. It should still be within tourney legality

[colmo]

Here's an example of the competition mode.

 

[CreativeCombat]

Tournament is still on.  The lovely Doctor Davinci has volunteered to film the process on his rig, which I am incapable of doing.  I have spent the past few days attempting to run it on my computer, using a time warp control mod to set physics warp to 0.1 and then accelerating the footage in post-production, but decided this would not be possible as the game can not handle running itself, the four planes, and the recording software simultaneously without an extremely high risk of crashing.  It was further frustrated by the fact that attempting to perform good camera work at 10% speed was impossible for me, and I calculated that to film the entire thing, all the way through, at 10% speed would take 29 hours in total (5 minutes for each match at regular speed would be 50 minutes for each at 10% speed, 5 matches per round, 7 rounds in total). 

I've therefore decided it would be best to let Davinci film the whole thing, which he has kindly volunteered to do.  I hope that you will enjoy his production, and that the entire thing can be completed before March as per the deadline described in the rules post on Page 51. 

Never mind. 

The tournament is not dead yet. 

Edited February 26, 2016 by CreativeCombat

[DoctorDavinci]

1 hour ago, CreativeCombat said:

Tournament is still on.  The lovely Doctor Davinci has volunteered to film the process on his rig, which I am incapable of doing.  I have spent the past few days attempting to run it on my computer, using a time warp control mod to set physics warp to 0.1 and then accelerating the footage in post-production, but decided this would not be possible as the game can not handle running itself, the four planes, and the recording software simultaneously without an extremely high risk of crashing.  It was further frustrated by the fact that attempting to perform good camera work at 10% speed was impossible for me, and I calculated that to film the entire thing, all the way through, at 10% speed would take 29 hours in total (5 minutes for each match at regular speed would be 50 minutes for each at 10% speed, 5 matches per round, 7 rounds in total). 

I've therefore decided it would be best to let Davinci film the whole thing, which he has kindly volunteered to do.  I hope that you will enjoy his production, and that the entire thing can be completed before March as per the deadline described in the rules post on Page 51. 

 

The tournament is not dead yet. 

CORRECTION:

I had offered previously and was refused the opportunity. It was only within the past few days that I was asked if I was willing to record like I had offered previously.

I only offered to record the fights due to everyone who had entered the competition wants to see the results, plain and simple. However, due to the constraints I have been asked to perform under, I know for a fact that I will not enjoy the experience and have to decline the opportunity to record the tournament at this time (being answerable to someone for a 'poor recording performance' or 'bad camera angle' is not why I offered to record the fights in the first place let alone I have no intention of taking a course on cinematography or any other such nonsense as was suggested to me)

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused
Regards,

Doctor Davinci

Edited February 26, 2016 by DoctorDavinci

[Triop]

I'd like to continue this in a new form: Fighter challenge.

The format is simple, challenge us by uploading a fighter and we will try to shoot it down.

Use of mods and weapons can be decided by the challenger, remember we can use them to...

There can be only one, the best fighter jet will get his name and picture in the first post untill defeated.

 

Anyone up for this ? Are there still fighters ?

[Triop]

On 31-1-2016 at 4:21 AM, Zahida said:

After some more testing, I decided upon modifying one of my previous submissions, the CF-59. This variant has been altered to comply with the new rules, and has some other improvements thrown in for good measure. Both planes are identical. 

Plane 1- https://www.dropbox.com/s/zegopkitbal278u/Zahida%20-%201%20-%20CF-59%20Naga%20II.craft?dl=0&preview=Zahida+-+1+-+CF-59+Naga+II.craft

Plane 2- https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj9xax2elakify8/Zahida%20-%202%20-%20CF-59%20Naga%20II.craft?dl=0&preview=Zahida+-+2+-+CF-59+Naga+II.craft

That thing is nasty !

Hard 2 beat

Yeah, getting some planes from this thread to fight on my own...

[drtricky]

The newest version of BDArmory should not be used for this tournament yet. Why?

The update makes the GAU-8's 30mm rounds distance-fuzed; they explode after travelling a certain distance. Yeah, we're gonna need an evaluation as to whether the GAU-8 should be allowed in this form.

In addition, because I'm the only one crazy enough to use mk3 parts on a fighter, I've also noticed that mk3 cargo bays are now bullet proof to 20 mm vulcan bullets. And when I mean bullet proof, I mean they bounce off. Mk3 fuel tanks and cockpits still explode after a few hits, however.

Edited February 29, 2016 by drtricky

[colmo]

On 26/02/2016 at 9:23 PM, Triop said:

I'd like to continue this in a new form: Fighter challenge.

The format is simple, challenge us by uploading a fighter and we will try to shoot it down.

Use of mods and weapons can be decided by the challenger, remember we can use them to...

There can be only one, the best fighter jet will get his name and picture in the first post untill defeated.

 

Anyone up for this ? Are there still fighters ?

Check out my discussion thread. I proposed this format as a 'King of the Hill' contest. It deserves a new thread, but you might want to think about constraints - no turrets, points limits etc. Note that BDA is getting lots of updates right now which impact AI behaviour, so designs may fluctuate wildly in their effectiveness. In a KOTH contest, that's just how the cookie crumbles.

Edited February 29, 2016 by colmo
Typo

[Triop]

16 minutes ago, colmo said:

Check out my discussion thread. I proposed this format as a 'King of the Hill' contest. It deserves a new thread, but you might want to think about constraints - no turrets, points limits etc. Note that BDA is getting lots of updates right now which impact AI behaviour, so designs may fluctuate wildly in their effectiveness. In a KOTH cobtest, that's just how the cookie crumbles.

Even though the outcome could be unfair, it's still more fun then not fighting at all.

 

[NotAnAimbot]

I just have 2 questions before submitting my craft;

 

Is FAR required?

 

Are Chaff and Flare countermeasures permitted and handled by the AI?

[drtricky]

1 hour ago, NotAnAimbot said:

Is FAR required?

FAR is not used in this competition. Keep in mind however that this tournament will be held with an older version of BDArmory (I think version 0.9.9.1) because the newest versions of BDA (0.10.x and above) have introduced many changes that need to be evaluated for balance.

1 hour ago, NotAnAimbot said:

Are Chaff and Flare countermeasures permitted and handled by the AI?

The (current) tournament is a gunfighting tournament, so you can technically spam as many CM's as you want because they won't do anything other than weigh your aircraft down .

In tournaments with missiles involved, CM's are allowed and generally count towards a point system, whether it be the point system mentioned in the OP, or a custom set of rules. And yes, they will be automatically used by the pilot AI when it deems it necessary to do so.

If you would like to read the rules for the current dogfighting competition if you haven't read them already (which has yet to take place due to the host having computer problems), look on page 51 of this thread.

Edited February 29, 2016 by drtricky

[Triop]

@colmo

I have tried something like that a while ago...

Trying it again...

C'mon guys, shoot me down...

Edited March 1, 2016 by Triop

[CreativeCombat]

Quarter Finals 

Match 1 - GDJ vs Doctor Davinci 

1. https://youtu.be/8AYY_QXiIpo 

2. https://youtu.be/Xvh8C-Qh1vc 

3. https://youtu.be/zjjyazHs0A8 

4. https://youtu.be/S1ZTW4sO9jk 

5. https://youtu.be/W0Y12VzUynk 

Match 2 - SasquatchM vs MarsRocks 

1. https://youtu.be/TYbRlsqw3qA 

2. https://youtu.be/mO2PKeac3RE 

3. https://youtu.be/ipr8qN2bGA8 

4. https://youtu.be/dnEaU7FjYMI 

5. https://youtu.be/Y6J66bhlbYY 

Match 3 - drtricky vs PTGFlyer, Seriously the derpiest thing ever. 

1. https://youtu.be/bep7XeWYznw 

2. https://youtu.be/flyQjybXWc0 

3. https://youtu.be/O68-Ia3wGM0 

4. https://youtu.be/uFGAtK4BpO8 

5. https://youtu.be/_Lggc25t_uU 

Match 4 - [ Jeremy ] vs Combatsmithen 

1. https://youtu.be/C0s_-k_pHJA 

2. https://youtu.be/I4N9tqFjmYg 

3. https://youtu.be/GU_QwOB5lAc 

4. https://youtu.be/yyD0KZ_xn1I 

5. https://youtu.be/yyD0KZ_xn1I 

 

Semifinals 

Match 1 - DoctorDavinci vs SasquatchM 

1. https://youtu.be/1bDhcBSX1jU 

2. https://youtu.be/rs2i0sfUQU0 

3. https://youtu.be/ftG1qOfNt3I 

4. https://youtu.be/9CtvJMKeMSc 

5. https://youtu.be/frAwA8n4-_0 

Match 2 - PTGFlyer vs Combatsmithen 

1. https://youtu.be/flfKv-8UM4I 

2. https://youtu.be/9UeNyN_h0Rg 

3. https://youtu.be/rZ2qSNZIaQQ 

4. https://youtu.be/zI-cF1W7FJg 

5. https://youtu.be/oZ7f2WFs0FE 

 

Finals - SasquatchM vs Combatsmithen 

1. https://youtu.be/J_dV1j_we9s 

2. https://youtu.be/93znSc0maTI 

3. https://youtu.be/PTAlnc50zIc 

4. https://youtu.be/SiEiCMZH2Ew 

 

Edited March 21, 2016 by CreativeCombat

[drtricky]

11 hours ago, CreativeCombat said:

Match 1 - GDJ vs Doctor Davinci 

It's a good thing I used Davinci's aircraft as a training reference

My 95 part plane is going to give one helluva fireworks display when it gets shot to pieces 

Edited March 1, 2016 by drtricky

[PTGFlyer]

Oh good, we're still starting from the ground. If we started from the air my jet would fail utterly, because I didn't have time to test it before the deadline, and then my mom deleted KSP, but it takes off at 40 m/s in about 3-4 seconds.

[NotAnAimbot]

So I guess it's a bit late to submit?

[colmo]

BDA has had a competition mode since the 18th Feb. Why isn't it being used?

 

[Combatsmithen]

12 hours ago, CreativeCombat said:

http://imgur.com/vwMin 

Expect one match to be uploaded on a daily basis, which would mean everything should be up by March 6th. 

 

Quarter Finals 

Match 1 - GDJ vs Doctor Davinci 

1. https://youtu.be/8AYY_QXiIpo 

2. https://youtu.be/Xvh8C-Qh1vc 

3. *Internet blacked out, posting from phone.  Will upload the rest when it's fixed*.  

@CreativeCombat Since the competitions are starting I want to know if my raptor I submitted is in the challenge.