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(1.0.4 Compatible) SSP: Space Shuttle Program (On Hold for Internal Reorganization)


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Should we split the Shuttle into parts like the CSS?  

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  1. 1. Should we split the Shuttle into parts like the CSS?

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Anyone want to take up work on b52 or bx70? Just aero, mass, COM, nodes or whatever to configure.

Also have the lockheed l1011 made for the pegasus about to be put into ksp

Tristonwilson12 has the x planes

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Lockheed_TriStar_launches_Pegasus_with_Space_Technology_5.jpg

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This will use some 747 parts like engines and wheels for simplicity. Just needs a bit more texturing. But it wil be more detailed like the b52 with the high res base maps I found. Just gotta add markings

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747 fully textured now too.

Shuttle will take more time to complete hi res conversion

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Anyone want to take up work on b52 or bx70? Just aero, mass, COM, nodes or whatever to configure.

Also have the lockheed l1011 made for the pegasus about to be put into ksp

Tristonwilson12 has the x planes

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Lockheed_TriStar_launches_Pegasus_with_Space_Technology_5.jpg

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This will use some 747 parts like engines and wheels for simplicity. Just needs a bit more texturing. But it wil be more detailed like the b52 with the high res base maps I found. Just gotta add markings

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747 fully textured now too.

Shuttle will take more time to complete hi res conversion

Relax! Mike! You still have a,week or so.

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For the record, there was a design-change on the 2nd XB-70. Its main wing (well, the parts outboard of the twin vertical tails) were given a 5 degree dihedral angle, to improve handling at speeds above Mach 2.5, and to correct for that, the drooping wingtips were made to fold 5 degrees extra so they would fold to the same anhedral angle that the first prototype's wingtips had with the "flat" wings. Prototype 1's wingtips folded 25 degrees down for flight between mach 0.9 and mach 1.8, and 65 degrees down at speeds above mach 1.8. To compensate for its extra 5 degrees of dihedral, Prototype 2's wingtops folded 30 degrees down for flight between mach 0.9 and mach 1.8, and 70 degrees down at speeds above mach 1.8.

Prototype 1 (s/n 20001)

Valkyrie_06.jpg

Prototype 2 (s/n 20207)

XB70Valkyrie1.jpg

You can see the extra dihedral if you look at the 2nd prototype's wing-trailing-edge.

North American Aviation proposed to attach a delta-winged version of the X-15 rocket-powered spaceplane atop the XB-70 like this.XB-70_1.jpg

I was thinking of a version of this with the 2nd prototype Valkyrie (with the extra dihedral on the wings, as the lack of dihedral on prototype 1 is why they limited it to below mach 2.5). Just a suggestion

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For the record, there was a design-change on the 2nd XB-70. Its main wing (well, the parts outboard of the twin vertical tails) were given a 5 degree dihedral angle, to improve handling at speeds above Mach 2.5, and to correct for that, the drooping wingtips were made to fold 5 degrees extra so they would fold to the same anhedral angle that the first prototype's wingtips had with the "flat" wings. Prototype 1's wingtips folded 25 degrees down for flight between mach 0.9 and mach 1.8, and 65 degrees down at speeds above mach 1.8. To compensate for its extra 5 degrees of dihedral, Prototype 2's wingtops folded 30 degrees down for flight between mach 0.9 and mach 1.8, and 70 degrees down at speeds above mach 1.8.

Prototype 1 (s/n 20001)

http://www.aircraftinformation.info/Images/Valkyrie_06.jpg

Prototype 2 (s/n 20207)

http://api.ning.com/files/HfUvPSttO0Jx7wxzeEqxNDa5gR0YRJHqJFHoJkFRTZjkUkJSFfOukfc6QLlfPTrBoh1Vdm0GJJtDuQfdtoqFCf0YMmK2ZWwo/XB70Valkyrie1.jpg

You can see the extra dihedral if you look at the 2nd prototype's wing-trailing-edge.

North American Aviation proposed to attach a delta-winged version of the X-15 rocket-powered spaceplane atop the XB-70 like this.http://ipmscanada.com/ipms/member%20models/malaguti/Malaguti_Image/XB-70_1.jpg

I was thinking of a version of this with the 2nd prototype Valkyrie (with the extra dihedral on the wings, as the lack of dihedral on prototype 1 is why they limited it to below mach 2.5). Just a suggestion

I can see your serious about detail and I respect that, so I will use this information to update the craft. Many thanks for the idea.

The best result I can get is infernal robotics for the wing adjustments and will have to be manually controlled at this stage. I dont thing it will affect aero ingame however

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The concept behind the Valkyrie's design was a phenomenon called "Compression-lift". The theory went that the wedge-shaped engine-housing beneath the wing would push air into the space under the wing inside the downturned wingtips, increasing air-pressure beneath the wings enough to create sufficient lift to overcome the loss of wing-area, and that the downturned wingtips would act to increase vertical fin area for greater directional stability at Mach 3. The aircraft's flight-testing confirmed the hypotheses, but the thing's radar and infrared signatures were both enormous, making it an easy target for anti-aircraft missiles.

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Anyone want to take up work on b52 or bx70? Just aero, mass, COM, nodes or whatever to configure.

Also have the lockheed l1011 made for the pegasus about to be put into ksp

Tristonwilson12 has the x planes

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Lockheed_TriStar_launches_Pegasus_with_Space_Technology_5.jpg

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This will use some 747 parts like engines and wheels for simplicity. Just needs a bit more texturing. But it wil be more detailed like the b52 with the high res base maps I found. Just gotta add markings

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747 fully textured now too.

Shuttle will take more time to complete hi res conversion

wooooo pegasus

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No not directly. I will upload at somepoint I cannot be sure of. But as soon as I have them organised.

Any changes you choose to make or have changed already, upload them how you like for me to download and put into the mod.

I will email you sampa a download link with the ro/far to use and change. And any requests send them to sampa to give to the appripriate person to fix

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