How can I make this ?!

[lextacy]

Ok lets say I want an auxiliary electric charge inside a capsule. Ive tried duplicating "RESOURCE" Electric Charge , but the game will ignore the 2nd charge. I also want this 2nd charge to be off by default. This way to prevent charge depletion in case you time warped and forgot to deploy solars. So it would go something like this............

Right Click contex menu

Advantages

1. Dont have to chase around a small battery part to right click it

2. Part AND mass reduction

3 Fail-safe to have emergency power if one forgot to install a 2nd battery in VAB (old school method)

Disadvantages

1. Have to code?

[G'th]

While I can't help with how to make it, I can vouch for the total usefulness of such a feature. And not just for power either. I'd love to designate fuel reserves as well.

[lextacy]

While I can't help with how to make it' date=' I can vouch for the total usefulness of such a feature. And not just for power either. I'd love to designate fuel reserves as well.[/quote']

glad you like idea. I think im going to release a mod based on these concepts. I might call it...................TBD

[Vanamonde]

You will get more helpful answers for this in the modding subforums, and so your thread has been moved.

[Mecripp]

Ok lets say I want an auxiliary electric charge inside a capsule. Ive tried duplicating "RESOURCE" Electric Charge , but the game will ignore the 2nd charge. I also want this 2nd charge to be off by default. This way to prevent charge depletion in case you time warped and forgot to deploy solars. So it would go something like this............

Right Click contex menu

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q561/chadro_6963/image4small.jpg

Advantages

1. Dont have to chase around a small battery part to right click it

2. Part AND mass reduction

3 Fail-safe to have emergency power if one forgot to install a 2nd battery in VAB (old school method)

Disadvantages

1. Have to code?

You might look at or use NearFutureElectrical http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/52042-0-21-Near-Future-Propulsion-Pack and use it's plugin it has capacitors.

[Sampa]

...it might be as easy as changing the name!

[lextacy]

You might look at or use NearFutureElectrical http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/52042-0-21-Near-Future-Propulsion-Pack and use it's plugin it has capacitors.

I remember you ! You always give the best information ever ! What is the use of NFP capacitors?

...it might be as easy as changing the name!

no, then parts that consume electric charge(EC) will still only see the original EC.

[Joshua A.C. Newman]

Maybe you could implement this by making batteries (and, I suspect, fuel tanks) refuse to pump fuel until "activated".

[Mecripp]

I remember you ! You always give the best information ever ! What is the use of NFP capacitors?

no, then parts that consume electric charge(EC) will still only see the original EC.

The capacitors give off a EC charge when you tell them to and you have to tell it to charge backup.

EDIT- And your to kind but thanks.

EDIT- You could do something like

RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
  name = BackupEC
  density = 0
  unitCost = 0
  hsp = 0
  flowMode = ALL_VESSEL
  transfer = PUMP
  isTweakable = true
}

	MODULE
	{
		 name = ModuleResourceConverter
		 ConverterName = EC Cell
		 StartActionName = Start EC Cell
		 StopActionName = Stop EC Cell
		 FillAmount = 0.95
		AutoShutdown = false
		GeneratesHeat = false
		UseSpecialistBonus = false


		 INPUT_RESOURCE
		 {
			ResourceName = BackupEC
			Ratio = 1.0
			FlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
		 }
		 OUTPUT_RESOURCE
		 {
			ResourceName = ElectricCharge
			Ratio = 1.0
			DumpExcess = false
		 }
	}

	MODULE
	{
		 name = ModuleResourceConverter
		 ConverterName = Backup Cell
		 StartActionName = Start Backup Cell
		 StopActionName = Stop Backup Cell
		 FillAmount = 0.95
		AutoShutdown = false
		GeneratesHeat = false
		UseSpecialistBonus = false


		 INPUT_RESOURCE
		 {
			ResourceName = ElectricCharge
			Ratio = 1.0
			FlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
		 }
		 OUTPUT_RESOURCE
		 {
			ResourceName = BackupEC
			Ratio = 1.0
			DumpExcess = false
		 }
	}

And added how ever much you want of BackupEC or what ever you want to call it to what ever part.

Edited October 30, 2015 by Mecripp2

[lextacy]

@meCRIPP Im totally going to do this ! It works ! I will credit you when I post the finished mod.

[hab136]

Have you seen AmpYear Power Manager and it's reserve battery system?

[lextacy]

Have you seen AmpYear Power Manager and it's reserve battery system?

took a look at it. I didn’t like the fact you had to still remember to turn something on, and still have to mount a part which means more mass. Its a good step in the right direction though

[Stone Blue]

I guess I dont understand how you want an amount of reserve electricity, but you dont want the extra mass to contain it...??... Nothing is free... It seems what you want is a "magical" source of power, that is "just there", with no cost to mass, no need for user intervention, as you want it to just automatically kick in on demand...

In my mind, without cheating reality, you're gonna need "extra" mass to store "extra" electricity...You're gonna have to have some kind of user intervention to turn it on/off when needed, OR you're gonna have to use a mod like Smart Parts or kOS to automatically control it... (again, extra mass for the controller parts...)...???

Probably not what you want either, but I use TAC Fuel Balancer to create reserve power and fuel tanks...I also use it to lock command pod and probe core electrical storage, thus creating "reserve" batteries in them...

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/25823-1-0-2-TAC-Fuel-Balancer-v2-5-1-2May

There's also Goodspeed Auto Fuel Pump:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/67163

This could probably be easily modified to handle electricity and batteries...

Edited October 31, 2015 by Stone Blue

[lextacy]

Its not just the limited scope of "forgetting batteries" This really shines when used with TestFlight by Agathorn. There are whats called resource leaks. Now wouldn’t it be cool to to have a redundancy that is always there?

[Svm420]

Its not just the limited scope of "forgetting batteries" This really shines when used with TestFlight by Agathorn. There are whats called resource leaks. Now wouldn’t it be cool to to have a redundancy that is always there?

Why use the mod if you avoid the penalty 100%