[ASC-III] Air Superiority Challenge - King of the Hill (BDArmory 4v4 AI Duels: WW1 Theme) - Now Concluded!

[Monkey29399]

1 hour ago, Dman979 said:

hey, @inigma, can you give me a ping 24 hours before my match? I want to update my fighter, but I don't want to post the updated version yet.

Same here. I still need to make a few tweaks to my fighter design before the match starts.

[SuicidalInsanity]

That was an interesting battle. Apparently ablative wingmen make the best armor. I'm not sure how or why the VulTurRaptors were only targeting one plane most of the time, but it would be interesting if it could be replicated with other craft, especially in light of being able to submit two craft for the ASC; i can see this glitch? exploit? AI quirk? becoming a design consideration for future entries.

Rest in peace, VulTurRaptor, you were a worthy and truly formidable adversary.

[NotAnAimbot]

Some music @inigma

 

[jrodriguez]

Hey guys, I'm doing crazy combats in KSP 1.1. Check my drones vs X-Wings battle!

 

[drtricky]

@inigma Is BDA working fine in 1.1?

[Matuchkin]

2 hours ago, Jakerblam22 said:

Hmm. maybe my .50 cals weren't set up right, they never seemed to do any real damage.

I place two on the underside of the plane, and two on the upper side- one pair on each wing.

[inigma]

51 minutes ago, drtricky said:

@inigma Is BDA working fine in 1.1?

Most likely. Hower ASC II won't start until ASC I is finished with the current roster.

[Jakerblam22]

8 minutes ago, Matuchkin said:

I place two on the underside of the plane, and two on the upper side- one pair on each wing.

I was using the Mark 1 cockpit (the pointy one) and I had 1 on each side of the nose. Maybe I'll resurrect that plane......

[Matuchkin]

28 minutes ago, Jakerblam22 said:

I was using the Mark 1 cockpit (the pointy one) and I had 1 on each side of the nose. Maybe I'll resurrect that plane......

They move COM a lot, though.

[Jakerblam22]

12 minutes ago, Matuchkin said:

They move COM a lot, though.

If I remember right, that plane was highly maneuverable and my first attempt at designing a plane for this challenge. Failed in testing, but now... maybe i could fix it.

[jrodriguez]

KSP: ASC King of the Hill NotAnAimbot vs SuicidalInsanity

 

 

The Solarius III won the fight 3 - 0! How many lasers have you clipped together? 4, 8? hahaha

[NotAnAimbot]

2 hours ago, jrodriguez said:

 

The Solarius III won the fight 3 - 0

 

Strange, sometimes the F-2 doesn't fire when the Solarius does. Guess it's back to missiles and lasers together.

I guess this will be the hard counter:

-6 AMRAAMS at 6M/T

-AMRAAMS fire outside of laser range and make Sols go into evasive maneuvers

-Laser plane moves in to overheat evading Sol

Edited April 23, 2016 by NotAnAimbot

[drtricky]

6 hours ago, jrodriguez said:

How many lasers have you clipped together? 4, 8? hahaha

Yeah, I was wondering how a single laser was so effective from over 4 km away.

I seriously think we should ban offensively oriented laser turrets in the next ASC, though.

Edited April 23, 2016 by drtricky

[JollyGreenGI]

Requesting to add a second fighter rather than two of the same:

TAM-Y22E "Fiesta" RIOT

[Hobbes Novakoff]

10 hours ago, drtricky said:

I seriously think we should ban offensively oriented laser turrets in the next ASC, though.

I support that. BTW, once the hosts clear the competitor backlog, we'll be starting in on ASC-II, which will be fought in 1.1.

I'm also working on a new challenge: ASC-A, where you try to capture the island airfield against increasingly stiff resistance. It'll require a very different type of plane, and I'm thinking of also making it a test of squadron command skills and manual piloting-depends on whether or not people want to self-host. Luckily, flak and SAM emplacements are 9 and 15 parts respectively, so I'll be able to put some crazy stuff later on.

Edited April 23, 2016 by Hobbes Novakoff

[NotAnAimbot]

10 hours ago, drtricky said:

think we should ban offensively oriented laser turrets

Laser turrets are fine, but not when spammed. Maybe limit the loadout to X number of turrets?

[Hobbes Novakoff]

Just now, NotAnAimbot said:

Laser turrets are fine, but not when spammed. Maybe limit the loadout to X number of turrets?

In ASC-A, I'm thinking of only allowing lasers if you are using the Mk3 cockpit. 

[NotAnAimbot]

7 minutes ago, Hobbes Novakoff said:

only allowing lasers if you are using the Mk3 cockpit. 

What do you think about this then?

-1.25 cockpits can only carry two .50s, 2 Vulcans or a single GAU-8

-Mk2 cockpits can carry two Vulcans turrets or two GAU-8s

-Mk3 cockpits can carry three GAU-8s, 4 Vulcan turrets or a single laser in the nose

[SuicidalInsanity]

16 hours ago, jrodriguez said:

How many lasers have you clipped together? 4, 8? hahaha

6 lasers, which are very much a double edged sword, and responsible for a number of exploitable flaws in the Solarius' design

Advantages and flaws of the Solarius' design, as seen in the previous two videos:

Laser cluster Pros:
Anything that gets within 4-5 km, dies. Probably.   

Laser cluster Cons:
5 tons of laser on the nose makes the Solarius fly like a three legged cow.
Lack of maneuverability means anemic missile defense.
The laser cluster uses 2100 Ec/s. There is about 5500 Ec worth of batteries on board.
The Solarius has no secondary armament.

So far the above trade-off has worked in the Solarius' favor, but anything that can survive the initial alpha strike will be able to make full advantage of the Solarius' vulnerabilities.

 

 

[Hobbes Novakoff]

Just now, NotAnAimbot said:

What do you think about this then?

-1.25 cockpits can only carry two .50s, 2 Vulcans or a single GAU-8

-Mk2 cockpits can carry two Vulcans turrets or two GAU-8s

-Mk3 cockpits can carry three GAU-8s, 4 Vulcan turrets or a single laser in the nose

I'm  thinking of being a bit less linear. For instance, GAU-8s and other fixed guns aren't useful on airliners because it's like trying to do the Daytona 500 in a segmented bus. I do want a sort of tailgun-type weapon, as 50 cals are far too small and something like the Millennium is too big. Or only putting a restriction on lasers-after all, guns will be less useful against small, nonmoving targets, especially when I start to armor them.

[Redshift OTF]

Laser boats are susceptible to missiles as they generally don't have the manoeuvrability to escape them.

[NotAnAimbot]

Just now, Hobbes Novakoff said:

sort of tailgun-type

The B-52 used quad .50s or a M61 Vulcan for their tail turret.

B-52A's tail guns made of 4x0.50in guns

Later B-52 with a M61 Vulcan

[Matuchkin]

22 minutes ago, Redshift OTF said:

Laser boats are susceptible to missiles as they generally don't have the manoeuvrability to escape them.

Yes, but they have the laser to escape them. It's what the laser's made for, isn't it?

[Redshift OTF]

I don't think you can get them to fire at both missiles and the opponent craft though. That's their weakness.

[JollyGreenGI]

Just now, Matuchkin said:

Yes, but they have the laser to escape them. It's what the laser's made for, isn't it?

Recently, no. The lasers forfeit the ability to down incoming missiles when set to attack all targets, for some reason.