[1.12.X] Feline Utility Rovers v1.3.4 (28. April 2022)

[Enceos]

@Nils277 What do you think about separating the window meshes to a separate object and adding a specular material to them?

Or if you know how to make specular maps, you could apply the specular material to the whole vessel and only windows will be shiny.

They look too flat and fake right now in my opinion.

Edited January 26, 2017 by Enceos

[Nils277]

33 minutes ago, Enceos said:

@Nils277 What do you think about separating the window meshes to a separate object and adding a specular material to them?

Or if you know how to make specular maps, you could apply the specular material to the whole vessel and only windows will be shiny.

They look too flat and fake right now in my opinion.

They are already a separate mesh which is slightly more specular. Will turn up the specular light up for the next update. 

[Enceos]

@Nils277 The good choice for comparison are the windows on stock parts:

Btw, I absolutely adore your IVA interiors. They're so cozy, I love spending time there during travels :3

[Horus]

3 hours ago, Nils277 said:

Update: Just tested with Hot Spot and everything works for me. I saw that it adds it's own module to each and every part, so there might be a confict between the mods. Can you send me a logfile when you have a rover with Hot Spot where the hitch/joint cannot be unlocked? This will help me find the reason for the potential conflict.

I returned HotSpot mod to my install and your flex joints work just fine too. Now, I'm totally frustrated. Before I removed it last time the part dialog showed "Status: Inoperable" and the junction was always stiff.

[Nils277]

51 minutes ago, Horus said:

I returned HotSpot mod to my install and your flex joints work just fine too. Now, I'm totally frustrated. Before I removed it last time the part dialog showed "Status: Inoperable" and the junction was always stiff.

The inoperable state appears when something goes seriously wrong...E.g. the node of the part itself does not exist or a new joint can't be created (what should actually never ever happen) Maybe it was the way the rover was built...E.g. even the sequence in which the parts are added in the VAB. Can you by any chance remember how you build the rover? 

Edited January 26, 2017 by Nils277

[Horus]

53 minutes ago, Nils277 said:

Can you by any chance remember how you build the rover? 

Silly me. I found what was really causing the problem.

http://imgur.com/a/2zArO

 

NB (for myself): never forget basic QA rules. Like - never rollback several steps at a time...

 

UPD: removing the part that blocks flex joints feature does require game restart. The issues persists until then even if the blocking part removed & craft reloaded. A massive NRE spam.

If the game restarted & the craft with the blocking part is outside SPH (spawned where you left if) - the error does not show.

Edited January 26, 2017 by Horus
update

[Nils277]

47 minutes ago, Horus said:

Silly me. I found what was really causing the problem.

http://imgur.com/a/2zArO

 

NB (for myself): never forget basic QA rules. Like - never rollback several steps at a time...

 

UPD: removing the part that blocks flex joints feature does require game restart. The issues persists until then even if the blocking part removed & craft reloaded. A massive NRE spam.

If the game restarted & the craft with the blocking part is outside SPH (spawned where you left if) - the error does not show.

Can you please post a log of tje NRE spam?  The NRE and persistent error even after reloading is definitely something I have to fix rather sooner than later.

I'm quiete curious what that error might be, I can't think of any reason right now which causes the error to persist even after loading..

 

Edited January 26, 2017 by Nils277

[MatGames]

That look's very well, i love that texturing an IVA! But i have one problem- ball joint didn't work as ball joint (i didn't have Kerbal Joint Reinforcement).

[Raptor22]

10 hours ago, Nils277 said:

Hmm, IR is not officially supporting 1.2 yet. But i will see what can be done. I definitely want the keep the partcount low and an adapter for each system (MKS, KPBS, Pathfinder) will be too much. 

Alright then.

Also, I just noticed that you have a shower in the airlock of the crew module. XD

While a good use of space, it's sort of dangerous. One latch malfunction and your shower will get quite cold!

... or quite hot. Depending on where you are.

Edited January 27, 2017 by Raptor22

[FirroSeranel]

I'd love to see some chassis parts with built-in solar panels so I don't have to ruin the Lynx's sleek lines with panels on the roof. Or maybe there is one already and I just don't have it unlocked.

[Raptor22]

22 minutes ago, FirroSeranel said:

I'd love to see some chassis parts with built-in solar panels so I don't have to ruin the Lynx's sleek lines with panels on the roof. Or maybe there is one already and I just don't have it unlocked.

No, there is not one. You can hide folding panels, RTGs, and fuel cells away in service bays.

4 hours ago, MatGames said:

That look's very well, i love that texturing an IVA! But i have one problem- ball joint didn't work as ball joint (i didn't have Kerbal Joint Reinforcement).

They don't flex much. You'll only see a lot of twisting when you make long rover trains. 

BTW, that's one of the many things this rover system is very useful for. They're similar to the road trains found in Australia.

[Beetlecat]

36 minutes ago, Raptor22 said:

Alright then.

Also, I just noticed that you have a shower in the airlock of the crew module. XD

While a good use of space, it's sort of dangerous. One latch malfunction and your shower will get quite cold!

... or quite hot. Depending on where you are.

That could function as a decon/rinsing shower, too.

[Nils277]

9 hours ago, MatGames said:

That look's very well, i love that texturing an IVA! But i have one problem- ball joint didn't work as ball joint (i didn't have Kerbal Joint Reinforcement).

Have you right clicked on the active hitch in flight to unlock it?

There should be an option to unlock. You can also see the status of the hitch there which should read unlocked.

@Raptor22 and @MatGames the amount of twisting can also be adjusted by the spring and damping values of the hitch. And deactivate the steering of all wheels on the trailer. Otherwise the twisting will be very small

5 hours ago, FirroSeranel said:

I'd love to see some chassis parts with built-in solar panels so I don't have to ruin the Lynx's sleek lines with panels on the roof. Or maybe there is one already and I just don't have it unlocked.

I already have solar panels in the list of planned part that fit in line with the rover.

[Nils277]

Small bugfix update for FUR:

Changelog:

Quote

0.1.1

Enhancements

• The windows look more like glass now                          

Bug Fixes

• Corrected texture on the Bellowed Joint
• Fixed compatibility problem with RemoteTech

Download:

 

There are no new parts yet sorry. (Because i'm currently working on something that i wanted to add to KPBS for a long time)

Edited September 14, 2017 by Nils277

[drtedastro]

really great mod, thanks @Nils277

the more i work with it, the greater it is.

cheers.

[The-Doctor]

Hey does this work with Kerbalism? @Nils277

[Nils277]

1 hour ago, The-Doctor said:

Hey does this work with Kerbalism? @Nils277

Not yet. Support for the major LS mods will be added in the future. (Also stands in the OP )

Edited January 28, 2017 by Nils277

[Raptor22]

Yeah, scratch that about rover trains. I edited the config for KJR and the trailers go nuts. They just swing all over the place, even when locked! 

[Nils277]

@Raptor22 Can you show a sceenshot (or better a video) of that? The swinging should'nt be there at all when the hitches are locked.

Have you tried increasing the spring and damping values from the right click menu? They are there for a reason
Btw. the "caterpillar" seen in the gallery linked in the OP works just fine. You just have to be careful that you don't drive too fast (10-15 m/s max) 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Nils277

[Raptor22]

Yes, I have tried increasing the dampening, disabling steering and motors, all of that. Now I was driving pretty fast. I wish that there was a manual motor limiter, so I wouldn't have to feather the W key so much. 

I'll mess around with it some more when I get home from school (and get around 4 outlines done. I hate AP human geography. Interesting class, but too much work.) I can always mess with the KJR config.

also, what's this "caterpillar" you mention?  

[Nils277]

9 minutes ago, Raptor22 said:

Yes, I have tried increasing the dampening, disabling steering and motors, all of that. Now I was driving pretty fast. I wish that there was a manual motor limiter, so I wouldn't have to feather the W key so much. 

I'll mess around with it some more when I get home from school (and get around 4 outlines done. I hate AP human geography. Interesting class, but too much work.) I can always mess with the KJR config.

also, what's this "caterpillar" you mention?  

The "caterpillar" was just a name i came up with for a rover with many joints that somehow looked like a caterpillar:

Edited January 30, 2017 by Nils277

[Raptor22]

Ah. I see.

Also, I came up with an idea for a part:

A low-profile water jet/screw for water travel. I experimented with mods like KAX and Firespitter, but the propellers were too weak. They have long, thin blades meant for air, instead of short, broad blades for water. It'd be awesome to make this an amphibious vehicle.

It'd be useful for some parts of Laythe, where the islands are only short hops away from each other. 

It'd also be helpful for getting you out of the water. One time I screwed up a landing on Laythe and landed 10km off shore. But with the props, I was able to slowly make my way back. The rover floats quite well.

Later I'll post a picture of one of the amphibious rovers I made.

[Raptor22]

So, I don't have any good recording software. Still messing around with things.

[Dr.Wolfram]

One question about those bendy joints. Is it possible to make them moar flexible?

The reason im asking is because I wanna try to build jetways, and that part is perfect... but it moves left-right only by few degrees

[Nils277]

@Dr.Wolfram you can to this in the config of the files: 

Either GameData/KerbetrotterLtd/FelineUtilityRover/Parts/Coupling/HitchActive.cfg or GameData/KerbetrotterLtd/FelineUtilityRover/Parts/Utility/JointBellowed.cfg. There you find the following:

    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleKerbetrotterHitch
        jointLimits = 20,10,30
        jointDamping = 1
        jointSpring = 50
        referenceTransformNames = Reference1, Reference2
        referenceNodeNames = front, back
    }

what you want the change is jointLimits. Any positive number sets the maximal angle in degress for the axes. A zero locks the joint permanently in this axis. With a -1 the joint has no limits on that axis.
Be careful with the no limits setting though  

Edited February 1, 2017 by Nils277