HafCoJoe Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Galileo said: Instead of using scatterer for eclipses with your planets with glow, use EVE. The issue won't happen. Scatterer doesn't cast eclipses correctly on volumetric clouds or what you do in spectra. 3 hours ago, Galileo said: Be sure to remove the scatterer eclipse nodes. Other wise dual eclipses are ugly Sorry to say but doing this had no effect. I disabled Scatterer eclipses and restarting changed nothing at all: Doing more testing though. Edited August 14, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Avera9eJoe said: Sorry to say but doing this had no effect. I disabled Scatterer eclipses and restarting changed nothing at all: Doing more testing though. Are your EVE eclipses set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alteroz Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Avera9eJoe said: Doing more testing though. This is how vall looks to me, though i thought it was glow issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Galileo said: Are your EVE eclipses set? I've been using your mod as an example and for testing took both your shadow configs. The "shadows.cfg" is the same as it is in standard EVE if I'm not mistaken, and the only change to the "Scatterer_EVEShadows.cfg" I'd need to make is changing the top bar to say "Spectra" instead of "StockVisualEnhancements? The thing is, there aren't even any Scatterer configs for Vall or the rest of the non-atmospheric bodies. The glow is an old Layer2D "feature" from EVE 7-14 before Scatterer was around, and I asked Blackrack to try and get them compatible with Scatterer a few months back (And he did! Hence them being in Spectra). You probably have more knowledge on this than I do but I don't know if it's as simple a solution as that. I'll uninstall Scatterer though and see if the glow still mess up like that. EDIT: I pinged you on Discord too if that's faster? Edited August 14, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Update: It's definitely EVE-Scatterer integration causing the issues. Turning it off or removing scatterer makes it completely vanish. However the EVE eclipses look dreadful... I took that image without Scatterer. I've been using the Scatterer eclipses since they have a faded edge. My guess is that if I could disable EVE integration on all the planets without an atmosphere it might fix this whole issue, and let me use Scatterer eclipses. Though I tried and failed at doing that in configs. When it comes down to it though, I'd much rather keep the ugly eclipses I have now than use the EVE eclipses. It's far more intrusive seeing a massive black dot than seeing the glow IMO. The other solution would be to remove the glow configs... wait a second. Testing something else. Edited August 14, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Honestly I'd prefer to turn off eclipses on moons than have it look this bad. Everything would still eclipse properly on Jool/Kerbin/Laythe; it would simply remove the marble glow by making non-atmospheric planets no longer eclipse. EDIT: Huh. It seems as though Scatterer is drawing eclipses by painting the atmosphere black instead of the planet? I copied the config from Duna to Ike and it's doing eclipse to the atmosphere I pasted in. From this I can extrapolate that Scatterer only adds eclipses to the atmospheres it adds itself; it doesn't directly add anything to any planets without configs (though it might be breaking their effects via EVE-integration). Spoiler @blackrack I'll ping you here just for interest We chatted about this a while back being able to enable and disable scatterer effects per planet, and it could be that I'm just not doing it right. In a nutshell though: The Scatterer-EVE integration option is causing lots of havoc to the layer2D glow effects when they are eclipsed by a different body (I.E. Duna eclipsing Ike, Kerbin eclipsing the Mun, and Jool eclipsing any of it's moons causing the planet to look like this in the dark). I think that disabling Scatterer-Eve integration on the planets without a scatterer config will fix this issue, but I don't know how to. I'm guessing I need to add a line into planetlist.cfg? 2ND EDIT: I added a module for Ike in scatterer's planetlist.cfg and disabled Eve-integration on it, but nothing happened in game; still broken effects. Edited August 14, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doudou Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 @Avera9eJoe Hello, an update of kopernicus just released 1.3.0-5 Is it risky to update? Have you modified kopernicus in your Spectra pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, doudou said: @Avera9eJoe Hello, an update of kopernicus just released 1.3.0-5 Is it risky to update? Have you modified kopernicus in your Spectra pack? I tested and that new release works perfectly with Spectra; in fact it actually works better seeing as it fixed the terrain scatter issues It's not in the release though; if you want to you can simply remove and replace the two folders that come in the kopernicus download. That being said, you might want to just wait as I should have a groundbreaking update coming sometime within the next four hours. Edited August 18, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doudou Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 @Avera9eJoe So yes I will wait in this case ! Looking forward to testing this revolutionary new version ! thank you for your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidfu Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 can we get some new SS to show all the updates the SS and vid are all very old now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, sidfu said: can we get some new SS to show all the updates the SS and vid are all very old now Yeah the OP is still very barren sorry A video is in production though, as well as an imgur album with gifs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Video is finally out! Embedding Vimeo as the compression is much better than YouTube, and IMO the quality outweighs the lack of notoriety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qromodynmc Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Am i the only one who gets terrible download speeds on spacedock? edit - speeds are inconsistent but they're fine now. Still it'd be better to have another mirror if it's possible. Edited August 24, 2017 by qromodynmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOfMaar Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, qromodynmc said: Am i the only one who gets terrible download speeds on spacedock? edit - speeds are inconsistent but they're fine now. Still it'd be better to have another mirror if it's possible. It happens at times. SpaceDock doesn't get enough donations to add servers or keep more servers running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Version 1.1 is out on SpaceDock! There were a lot of subtle changes to this version, namely a complete revamp of the file structure of both Spectra, and the download zip. It should be very easy to customize your experience now. The glow on Laythe also should now be as bright as it is in the cinematic. A large album is embedded into the main page now to give a better representation of what all Spectra adds to the planets. Edited August 27, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Doctor Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Lovely, any pics? Also that sunflare really is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRagingIrishman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, The-Doctor said: Lovely, any pics? Also that sunflare really is... boi On 8/27/2017 at 6:53 AM, Avera9eJoe said: A large album is embedded into the main page now to give a better representation of what all Spectra adds to the planets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowiewhatausername Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Okay, so I followed the instructions, and this happens. Any ideas as to what might be causing this?It won't let me use pictures apparently so here's a linkhttps://imgur.com/a/XDSwO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, wowiewhatausername said: Okay, so I followed the instructions, and this happens. Any ideas as to what might be causing this?It won't let me use pictures apparently so here's a linkhttps://imgur.com/a/XDSwO Hm, it looks like the planet texture didn't load. Can you reboot and see if it persists? That's one of the few things that shouldn't mess up at all. Are you using any other visual mods? Edited August 29, 2017 by Avera9eJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Doctor Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Laythe looks like a lovely place to build a base in this mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Specific atmospheres for scatterer-less installs?! Thank you! Trying now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowiewhatausername Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Quote Hm, it looks like the planet texture didn't load. Can you reboot and see if it persists? That's one of the few things that shouldn't mess up at all. Are you using any other visual mods? Reboot the game or the computer? I've restarted the game multiple times, and the problem persisted. I'm only using the dependencies and the extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Are you on a mac, or using openGL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HafCoJoe Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, wowiewhatausername said: Reboot the game or the computer? I've restarted the game multiple times, and the problem persisted. I'm only using the dependencies and the extras. If you're on a mac I know what's causing this - Roger told me and I'll have a fix up momentarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowiewhatausername Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Quote If you're on a mac I know what's causing this - Roger told me and I'll have a fix up momentarily. The only problem is... I'm on a PC running Windows 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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