kerbiloid Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Xd the great said: Its a new ship. What did you expect? This. A futuristic transport of future. Spoiler Steam, carbon, and soot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sevenperforce Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) Spoiler So...bloody...close Edited January 31, 2019 by Val Spoilers dammit :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, sevenperforce said: Spoiler So...bloody...close I wonder if the launch date for STP-2 depends on a successful recovery of all three cores from STP-1? Edited January 31, 2019 by Val Spoilers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: I wonder if the launch date for STP-2 depends on a successful recovery of all three cores from STP-1? I am sure that they will tear down the first recovered Falcon Heavy core for thorough inspection, just like they did with the first Block 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 What if they installed Merlin engines at Mr. Steven for better control? - Captain, we’re going too fast! - Fire retro thrusters, full throttle! *BOOOOOOM* full stop after 3 seconds. Can be used for acceleration, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKraken Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) Mr steven of the future has methane thrusters for directional control. Is a hovercraft for catch mode. Lift fans are methane-electric (diesel-electric analog) Then converts to ekranoplane-mode for distance travel. It doesn't have a net at all... just a tub for the fairing to slot into. Not serious .... unless it works. Edited January 30, 2019 by RedKraken no net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, sh1pman said: What if they installed Merlin engines at Mr. Steven for better control? - Captain, we’re going too fast! - Fire retro thrusters, full throttle! *BOOOOOOM* full stop after 3 seconds. Can be used for acceleration, too. What is Mr. Steven's gross displacement, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: What is Mr. Steven's gross displacement, anyway? Wiki says 96t. Let's say we added two Merlin engines (fore and aft) and 100t of kerolox. Should be around 200t total. Very roughly, at ~1 MN thrust one engine should produce 0.5g of acceleration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolotiyeruki Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 So the first video we got, they couldn't turn quite fast enough. This time, Mr Steven was dead center, but going just a hair too fast. This feels a lot like the first attempts at booster landings. Fix one problem, another comes up. They'll get it eventually. At least, landing a gently parachuting fairing in a gigantic net seems a lot simpler than hoverslamming a booster onto a barge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 hours ago, kerbiloid said: This. A futuristic transport of future. Hide contents Steam, carbon, and soot. Well, we ARE getting 4014 this year, although obviously not from SpaceX... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I think they should make Mr. Steven bigger. Like "cargo ship" level bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Xd the great said: I think they should make Mr. Steven bigger. Like "cargo ship" level bigger. That would make a bigger target, but be impossible to control. The HIMMS Steve-O is a Fast Resupply Ship, that means it’s, well, fast, and also extremely maneuverable for its size. For a task like catching a parachuting fairing, you want a corvette, not a semi. 2 hours ago, RedKraken said: Not serious .... unless it works. Step up the size and they could use it to catch a wayward Starship running low on fuel. “This is your automated captain speaking, we used a little too much fuel on that re-entry, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode on impact.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Do the fairings even have any sort of guidance or do they jus do a “dumb drop?” They must have something to predict where the fairing will reach net height. It looked like they may have had the problem of the chute pulling the fairing off the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolotiyeruki Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: Do the fairings even have any sort of guidance or do they jus do a “dumb drop?” They must have something to predict where the fairing will reach net height. It looked like they may have had the problem of the chute pulling the fairing off the net I don't know if it has GnC of its own, but it looks like *something* triggered it to cut the chute when it hit the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, StrandedonEarth said: Do the fairings even have any sort of guidance or do they jus do a “dumb drop?” They must have something to predict where the fairing will reach net height. It looked like they may have had the problem of the chute pulling the fairing off the net Parafoils are highly steerable, so I would assume there’s some kind of active guidance there. Maybe the whole problem is just getting the chute and the boat to talk to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Parafoils are highly steerable, so I would assume there’s some kind of active guidance there. Maybe the whole problem is just getting the chute and the boat to talk to each other. Hmm... Some sort of differential GPS, and the fairing is interfering with the GPS reception on the boat? I know that carbon fiber does that, as several kit planes require you to put your GPS receiver in areas where there is essentially zero carbon fiber above it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Later droneships: Used for starship landing pads when someone makes a landing mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, MaverickSawyer said: Hmm... Some sort of differential GPS, and the fairing is interfering with the GPS reception on the boat? I know that carbon fiber does that, as several kit planes require you to put your GPS receiver in areas where there is essentially zero carbon fiber above it. More likely that fairing is more affected by wind than most normal cargoes and that the parafoils controller don't need pinpoint accuracy for other uses. Yes you have automated parafoil system, mostly used to supply remote military units and for this +-100 meter is not an large issue. System has two benefits, first it can be used from high attitude out of range of enemy and its silent, drop on an dark night and its very stealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Spoiler 9 hours ago, ThatGuyWithALongUsername said: Well, we ARE getting 4014 this year, although obviously not from SpaceX... Space X now can unify its crafts, making both boring trains and rockets of steel sheets and rivets. Then when it's on wheels, it's a train. When it flies, it's a rocket. Edited January 31, 2019 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Hide contents Space X now can unify its crafts, making both borings trains and rockets of steel sheets and rivets. Then when it's on wheels, it's a train. When it flies, it's a rocket. "In order to facilitate road transport of the sharship, we have added wheels, allowing it to use the American railroad." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDE Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, tater said: Radically redesigned? Given what that meant the last time there was an “architecture change”, are they NERVAs now? Edited January 31, 2019 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Xd the great said: "In order to facilitate road transport of the sharship, we have added wheels, allowing it to use the American railroad." While it's not anything like the starship, it is important to note that the space shuttle SRB's were carried by rail all the way from promontory to the Cape. NASA even has it's own shortline for handling them. Apparently the SLS SRB's will travel the same way. And then there's the Russians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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