tater Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think that successful restart of each engine is a single failure point for Falcon 9 recovery regardless of mission profile. If they are doing a three-engine burn it's because they don't have enough margins for a single-engine burn, so a failure of either outboard engine means they don't have the thrust they need. If they are doing a single-engine burn then they only restart the center engine, and if it fails to restart they're screwed anyway. Yeah, given timing constraints, if they need only 1 engine, by the time they determine it's time to rtry another it's too late. You'd need a landing profile where you light all redundant engines that seem nominal before startup, then shut off any you don't need (shutting off any that are not nominal after the start attempt first). 57 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: The impression I received from the explanation was that hot gas recirculation during the ascent caused a burn-through of the engine boot and triggered a commanded shutdown of that engine, resulting in the other 8 engines completing the ascent at higher throttle. When they attempted the restart for the entry burn, the damaged boot caused a thrust shortfall on that engine which was ultimately unrecoverable. Was it just shy of MECO at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 If someone gave me a ride on NS flying tomorrow I'd go (only about a 5 hour drive from here). Starship in 2023 with EDL? LOL, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrandedonEarth Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Hoo boy. Has somebody been into the Ambien again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Maybe road closures are easier as mayor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I'm not currently comfortable enough with Starship that I would ride one back down to Earth. Maybe from the Moon to LEO, and then dock with a Dragon to come home, but I don't know if I'd be willing to trust my life with the bellyflop and flip even after a few years...That said, everything else about the moon mission sounds perfect for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 It's certainly interesting that this announcement has come just a day after the closure of the Inspiration4 seat raffle. It makes it seem like this sort of thing will be getting more common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 I would love a seat, and I'd fly in 2023 given a chance. Such an incredible experience is surely worth a chance of it being ultimate. But I'm not a creative type, and not really in a position to be meaningfully supportive of the other passengers, so I'm not eligible alas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, RCgothic said: Such an incredible experience is surely worth a chance of it being ultimate. Not if you want to go to Mars after! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elro2k Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Looks like some new official renders for starship are on the Dear Moon website. https://dearmoon.earth/starship-suit.html Right off the bat it looks like that main observation deck window has gotten smaller. Anything else you guys can notice? Edited March 3, 2021 by Elro2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Elro2k said: Looks like some new official renders for starship are on the Dear Moon website. https://dearmoon.earth/starship-suit.html Right off the bat it looks like that main observation deck window has gotten smaller. Anything else you guys can notice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Elro2k said: Looks like some new official renders for starship are on the Dear Moon website.... https://dearmoon.earth/starship-suit.html Is the nose look poitier than currently? I think new window config look good from the side but awkward if see from nose down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 hours ago, tater said: If someone gave me a ride on NS flying tomorrow I'd go (only about a 5 hour drive from here). Starship in 2023 with EDL? LOL, no. Uh, no. I'm going. I'm definitely going. That is now my plan. I'm going. Offer me a space on a lunar free-return in Starship? Hell yes; I'm in. I don't actually know anyone who is better at explaining science and spaceflight and the wonders of the universe than me. Nye, Tyson, and everyone else included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Of course the odds of acceptance are essentially zero, but I'm decent artistic at least in the music department so I'll give it a shot, there's not much to lose here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: I don't actually know anyone who is better at explaining science and spaceflight and the wonders of the universe than me. Nye, Tyson, and everyone else included. Your better elevator pitch might be writing space chanties. Just sayin'. (Elon likes chanties) Starship page updated for hop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 hours ago, StrandedonEarth said: Hoo boy. Has somebody been into the Ambien again? I can personally attest that a bit too much of that can lead to staying up all night designing crazy rockets that actually work and occasionally founding vast empires from a single city... but don’t ask how I know.... But more than likely, someone probably just told him that he couldn’t... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: occasionally founding vast empires from a single city... but don’t ask how I know.... Elon started playing the real life versions of Rocket Tycoon and CarFactorio at pretty much the same time. Now he's starting his own game of Elon Musk's Civilization, with the starting city of Starbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: Elon started playing the real life versions of Rocket Tycoon and CarFactorio at pretty much the same time. Now he's starting his own game of Elon Musk's Civilization, with the starting city of Starbase. So, forget Mars, now we’re going to Alpha Centauri? unless Gandhi gets us first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Maybe they get to put the cam someplace even better now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, tater said: Your better elevator pitch might be writing space chanties. Just sayin'. I have two I wrote for NASA/ULA and one I'm writing for Astrobotics/ULA so come at me bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: So, forget Mars, now we’re going to Alpha Centauri? Isn't it Starship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Unfortunately I have even less chance at getting a ride- although I am decently talented in the musical arts (nothing too special), I’m out on grounds of my periodic heart arrhythmia. So a no for deep space or probably even orbit, but I suspect Blue would take me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: I have two I wrote for NASA/ULA and one I'm writing for Astrobotics/ULA so come at me bro I know, that's why I mentioned it. You should write a Starship chanty. Maybe suggest it needs a manual capstan for the elevator as a backup Edited March 3, 2021 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) I do look decent in a spacesuit, if I do say so myself... Probably could have zoomed in on my face a bit more though. I've probably already gotten my time's worth out of this just seeing me in the suit lol. Edited March 3, 2021 by Ultimate Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) SpaceX owes fans... nothing at all. Nor random people "spying" on them with cams, doing Kremlinology, etc. This was a classy thing to do. Can you imagine what would happen if I put a cam up someplace near BO's facility on Bezos' ranch? Course Bezos bought up nearly 400,000 acres before setting up there, so it literally might not be possible without trespassing while still having LOS. Edited March 3, 2021 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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