Wjolcz Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, tater said: The delay on the next Starlik launch, and the holes in the SpaceX launch schedule... I was wondering what was going on, but I bet it has to do with the whole Commercial Crew/Bridenstine kerfluffle. My guess? I think they're gonna hold Starlink launch until they fly MaxQ abort. Just for appearance sake. No "SpaceX" brand launches until they move on their main customer. That's kind of an odd decision, if it's true. It's not like SpaceX's busy schedule hurts NASA's image in any significant way. I mean there are people who still think it's a SpaceX vs NASA competition, but that's a minority, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Spoiler 1 hour ago, Wjolcz said: there are people who still think it's a SpaceX vs NASA competition A competition between a customer and an outsourcer, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Wjolcz said: That's kind of an odd decision, if it's true. It's not like SpaceX's busy schedule hurts NASA's image in any significant way. I mean there are people who still think it's a SpaceX vs NASA competition, but that's a minority, right? Maybe because they delayed Commercial Crew Program so much, they need to "show their committment". The main reason is because their customers cannot build satellites faster than they can recycle rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Competitors are going to show off in mid-November. Urgently need a perfomance. *** 3 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: From mid-Pacific? Edited October 22, 2019 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ultimate Steve Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, tater said: I can't watch it now but this could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Ultimate Steve said: I can't watch it now but this could be interesting. Would have been interesting to have the Blue stuff streamed, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ultimate Steve Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Wow! To hear it from Elon is one thing, but hearing Gwynne say they want to do a lunar landing by 2022... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Racescort666 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ultimate Steve said: Wow! To hear it from Elon is one thing, but hearing Gwynne say they want to do a lunar landing by 2022... Out of likes. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Edited October 22, 2019 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Shut up and take my money already! Apparenrly Musk has a prototype terminal at his house, how he sent the tweet last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 And they will be glorious... ...aaaaaaaand completely misrepresented by the mainstream media who still have only the vaguest idea which end needs to point to space at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CatastrophicFailure said: And they will be glorious... ...aaaaaaaand completely misrepresented by the mainstream media who still have only the vaguest idea which end needs to point to space at all... Media: Boom=Bad SpaceX: Boom=Experience. Me: Boom=Adreline surge, kerbalness + 10000, an attempt to "accidentally" recreate the accident in ksp. Edited October 22, 2019 by Xd the great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Xd the great said: SpaceX: Boom=Experience. No boom: didn’t push hard enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothalogh Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: And they will be glorious... ...aaaaaaaand completely misrepresented by the mainstream media who still have only the vaguest idea which end needs to point to space at all... It's amazing how many times I have to remind people how many Atlases we blew up on the pad, before we got one to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nothalogh said: It's amazing how many times I have to remind people how many Atlases we blew up on the pad, before we got one to fly. Not to mention how many pads i had blow up before I got one to land! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Industries Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 And don't forget all the test engines blown to smithereens in the pursuit of a decent propellant that won't kill you if you look at it too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacke Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Nothalogh said: It's amazing how many times I have to remind people how many Atlases we blew up on the pad, before we got one to fly. Well...technically 0. The first Atlas to launch actually did fly, although it had an early flight failure. In fact, all 8 of the Atlas A flight articles flew, with 4 of them having some sort of flight failure cutting the burn time short. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM-65A_Atlas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothalogh Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Jacke said: Well...technically 0. The first Atlas to launch actually did fly, although it had an early flight failure. In fact, all 8 of the Atlas A flight articles flew, with 4 of them having some sort of flight failure cutting the burn time short. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM-65A_Atlas I swear there was one that blasted itself to smithereens because oxyliquit formed in the flame trench from a failed start, which was then detonated on the subsequent successful ignition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncongruousGoat Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Nothalogh said: It's amazing how many times I have to remind people how many Atlases we blew up on the pad, before we got one to fly. Maybe there weren't any that blew up on the pad before the first one flew, but plenty would blow up their pads after the missile was operational. There is, of course, that one Atlas-Agena that lost tank pressure and just kind of crumpled, with the pad destroyed by the explosion of the upper stage impacting the ground. Three Atlas test missiles blew up on the pad after main engine start, probably due to a peculiar combustion instability in the engines that had a tendency to destroy injector heads. Also, I'm fairly sure that there was an Atlas-Centaur that fell back onto the pad and exploded within a second of launch after the engines were terminated by a faulty abort system. Though if you want a track record of blowing up on the pad and otherwise malfunctioning horribly, you need look no further than the train wreck that was Atlas-Able. Five were built, total. Of those, two blew up on the pad during static fires and the remaining three all suffered launch failures due to catastrophic malfunctions in the booster, upper stage, and fairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, IncongruousGoat said: Maybe there weren't any that blew up on the pad before the first one flew, but plenty would blow up their pads after the missile was operational. There is, of course, that one Atlas-Agena that lost tank pressure and just kind of crumpled, with the pad destroyed by the explosion of the upper stage impacting the ground. Three Atlas test missiles blew up on the pad after main engine start, probably due to a peculiar combustion instability in the engines that had a tendency to destroy injector heads. Also, I'm fairly sure that there was an Atlas-Centaur that fell back onto the pad and exploded within a second of launch after the engines were terminated by a faulty abort system. Though if you want a track record of blowing up on the pad and otherwise malfunctioning horribly, you need look no further than the train wreck that was Atlas-Able. Five were built, total. Of those, two blew up on the pad during static fires and the remaining three all suffered launch failures due to catastrophic malfunctions in the booster, upper stage, and fairing. How do you have a catastrophic launch failure because of a fairing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Spoiler 6 hours ago, Xd the great said: Media: Boom=Bad SpaceX: Boom=Experience. Me: Boom=Adreline surge, kerbalness + 10000, an attempt to "accidentally" recreate the accident in ksp. "Sometimes a boom is just a boom." (c) Dr. Freud. 50 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: How do you have a catastrophic launch failure because of a fairing? CoM offset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Ultimate Steve said: How do you have a catastrophic launch failure because of a fairing? I’m just that talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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