tater Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Augustus_ Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, tater said: Pretty sure BO/VG/others will drive sounding rockets to extinction with reusable suborbital vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, _Augustus_ said: Pretty sure BO/VG/others will drive sounding rockets to extinction with reusable suborbital vehicles. Depend on purpose, for zero-g qualifications it will, you can have far more bulky equipment, you can reuse it, you can even do maned launches in the future. This simplify lots of tests. However some sounding rocket is for study the upper atmosphere in locations like the southern ozone hole or polar light, they can not be replaced. Others are for high speed testing Now you could use the new Shepard as an first stage, replace the pod with an interstate and perhaps an fairing or cargo hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Augustus_ Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, magnemoe said: However some sounding rocket is for study the upper atmosphere in locations like the southern ozone hole or polar light, they can not be replaced. That market is so small that I don't think the demand will be sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Woot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hydrostatic pump bearings you say? Now there's a spacecraft engine that needs a good set of hydrospanners for maintenance. And on a serious note, I'm not sure what all those words mean but the ones I do understand - sound good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Heh. That other rocket company has a good day, so of course BO just has to have a “me too!” I got $10 says they’re really even further along, but have a small stockpile of blurbs like this ready to go when needed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Heh. That other rocket company has a good day, so of course BO just has to have a “me too!” I got $10 says they’re really even further along, but have a small stockpile of blurbs like this ready to go when needed... Do we count test firings in which an improved ISP is reported but not quantified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, PB666 said: Do we count test firings in which an improved ISP is reported but not quantified. Only if they don’t lose a power pack in the process. I just know it’s around here somewhere! Dangit, I had it a minute ago, I swear it was right here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Progress is progress. BO is moving along. Things are going to get interesting in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Apparently they have their own landing pad drone now. Looks marginally more functional than those other guy's giant roomba... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Apparently they have their own landing pad drone now. Looks marginally more functional than those other guy's giant roomba... "Blue2D2"...I sense a theme here... But what is it doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, cubinator said: "Blue2D2"...I sense a theme here... But what is it doing? Watching for Jawas to shock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 45 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Apparently they have their own landing pad drone now. Looks marginally more functional than those other guy's giant roomba... Except hasn't the SpaceX robot actually attached itself to boosters to secure them? That's rather more functional than driving around with what looks to be a camera for inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaPaL Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomf Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 It looks like the drone is going a little senile. It drove onto the landing pad, couldn't remember what it came here for and then drove off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSEP Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 What happend to the Payload Capacity of New Glenn? Last time i checked it was 70 tons and now its 45 tons? Is it because of the different variants? Do i have bad memory? Should i go ask the doctor? On 09/01/2018 at 10:46 PM, CatastrophicFailure said: Apparently they have their own landing pad drone now. Looks marginally more functional than those other guy's giant roomba... Whats the size of that little booger? Its hard to imagine that little skittle can carry a massive cosmos barrel like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, NSEP said: What happend to the Payload Capacity of New Glenn? Last time i checked it was 70 tons and now its 45 tons? Is it because of the different variants? Do i have bad memory? Should i go ask the doctor? Expendable vs Reusable? First design draft vs production blueprint? Chickened out on the thrust? Edited January 13, 2018 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman4308 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'd trust the 45 ton figure more than the 70 ton figure. Based on published thrust values, New Glenn can't be more than about 1400 tons on the pad, for which 70 tons would be a fairly unreasonable 5% payload fraction. Still, even 45 tons puts the New Glenn firmly in the heavy lift category. In general, I'm pretty excited for the New Glenn. While it's not the first highly-reusable orbital launch vehicle, it's arguably the better reusable HLV (Heavy Lift Vehicle) than the other company's reusable HLV, which has severe fairing volume limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, NSEP said: What happend to the Payload Capacity of New Glenn? Last time i checked it was 70 tons and now its 45 tons? Is it because of the different variants? Do i have bad memory? Should i go ask the doctor? Whats the size of that little booger? Its hard to imagine that little skittle can carry a massive cosmos barrel like that. If a nozzle never leaves that atmosphere it can be quite small and do the job. This can be deceiving but you have to look at the area of the nozzle inlet. Edited January 14, 2018 by PB666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I never thought I heard 70 tons except maybe people guessing without data or statements from Blue. 45 tons to LEO is a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starman4308 said: In general, I'm pretty excited for the New Glenn. While it's not the first highly-reusable orbital launch vehicle, it's arguably the better reusable HLV (Heavy Lift Vehicle) than the other company's reusable HLV, which has severe fairing volume limitations. That other company has its HLV ready and waiting on the pad, while New Glenn is years away from flying. And by the time it’s done, the other company is probably going to have an even bigger and heavier vehicle. And 45t is for 2-stage variant, without the hydrogen-oxygen upper stage. We don’t have the numbers for three-stage rocket yet. Quote The 82-meter-tall rocket will have the capacity to lift 45 tons to low Earth orbit and an impressive 13 tons to geostationary transfer orbit. The two-stage rocket should be ready for its maiden flight by the end of 2019, company founder Jeff Bezos said. 82-meters height corresponds to two stages with payload fairing. Three stage rocket will be 95m high. Edited January 14, 2018 by sh1pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncongruousGoat Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 This may just be me being completely out of the loop, but does anyone know what launch pad Blue Origin plans to use for launching New Glenn? The only ones I can think of that would be big enough are LC-39A and 39B, and both of those are already taken up by existing tenants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, IncongruousGoat said: does anyone know what launch pad Blue Origin plans to use for launching New Glenn? They have leased SLC-36 at Cape Canaveral for this purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 What is the advantage of the NG over the F9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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