totm dec 2019 Russian Launch and Mission Thread

[kerbiloid]

The general designer of the "Aviation and Space Technologies" Alexander Begak says that several private companies are developing a suborbital space yacht for tourists, with the support of AeroJet and SpaceJet working groups of the National Technology Initiative (NTI). They are currently doing this for two years.

It's called "Space yacht Selena", and it can start flying in the next five years.

It will start like a plane from a regular airport runway, get to v=3.5 Mach, h = 120..140 km, then re-enter at 0.85 Mach and land.
Crew = 6 passengers + 1 pilot. 
The flight is performed by the autopilot, and the pilot is just for lulz calm of the passengers.
They will build 3 such planes.

"We are currently computing the optimal trajectories. The experience tells that there is no need for humans to be under zero-G for more than 10 minutes.", said the source.

https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5c6a0a019a79475e932653a0&edit-text=

[DDE]

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3888428

Deputy chief of Baikonur assigned chief of Vostochnyi.

Current chief of Vostochnyi assigned chief of Baikonur.

Current chief of Baikonur quasi-demoted to oversee Zenit pad overhaul and Soyuz-5 development.

[sh1pman]

5 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

The general designer of the "Aviation and Space Technologies" Alexander Begak says that several private companies are developing a suborbital space yacht for tourists, with the support of AeroJet and SpaceJet working groups of the National Technology Initiative (NTI). They are currently doing this for two years.

It's called "Space yacht Selena", and it can start flying in the next five years.

It will start like a plane from a regular airport runway, get to v=3.5 Mach, h = 120..140 km, then re-enter at 0.85 Mach and land.
Crew = 6 passengers + 1 pilot. 
The flight is performed by the autopilot, and the pilot is just for lulz calm of the passengers.
They will build 3 such planes.

"We are currently computing the optimal trajectories. The experience tells that there is no need for humans to be under zero-G for more than 10 minutes.", said the source.

https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5c6a0a019a79475e932653a0&edit-text=

In the first sentence they say "flights of tourists to near-earth orbit", but the rest of the text describes it as suborbital. Which one is it? 

[kerbiloid]

3 minutes ago, sh1pman said:

In the first sentence they say "flights of tourists to near-earth orbit", but the rest of the text describes it as suborbital. Which one is it? 

As M<=3.5, t <= 10 min, I guess it's suborbital. Counter-WhiteKnight or so.

Edited February 18, 2019 by kerbiloid

[tater]

 

[Kerwood Floyd]

3 hours ago, sh1pman said:

In the first sentence they say "flights of tourists to near-earth orbit", but the rest of the text describes it as suborbital. Which one is it? 

I'm guessing "to near-earth orbit" should be interpreted as "nearly to earth orbit" (i.e., sub-orbital) rather than the usual technical meaning of "near-earth orbit".

[Ultimate Steve]

Finally, it's been forever since we had a launch! There's only been 9 this year and four of those didn't have streams! The last launch was February 5! It's going to be almost 2 weeks between launches. I'm going into launch withdrawal.

Edited February 18, 2019 by Ultimate Steve

[kerbiloid]

1 hour ago, Kerwood Floyd said:

I'm guessing "to near-earth orbit" should be interpreted as "nearly to earth orbit" (i.e., sub-orbital) rather than the usual technical meaning of "near-earth orbit".

Technically, when we jump, we are in a high-eccentricity elliptic LEO.
Right in the apogee.

Just add 7900 m/s, and you can circularize it.

[Xd the great]

7 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

Technically, when we jump, we are in a high-eccentricity elliptic LEO.
Right in the apogee.

Just add 7900 m/s, and you can circularize it.

Yeah, tried that with kerbals...

He burnt up.

[sh1pman]

Quote

Roscosmos signs new contract on flight of two space tourists to ISS

The flight to the station will take place until the end of 2021

MOSCOW, February 19. /TASS/. Russia’s Roscosmos and US company Space Adventures have signed a new contract on the flight of two space tourists to the International Space Station until late 2021 onboard one spacecraft, the state corporation told TASS on Tuesday.

"The Roscosmos state corporation and US company Space Adventures have signed a contract on carrying out short-term space flights to the ISS by two non-professional astronauts onboard one spacecraft. The flight to the station will take place until the end of 2021," Roscosmos said.

The Russian state corporation said that space enterprises have started manufacturing a Soyuz-MS manned spacecraft and a Soyuz-2 carrier rocket for tourists’ flight into space. All works on creating the space equipment will be sponsored by space tourists.

http://tass.com/science/1045321

Budget so low, need tourists to pay the bills!

Edited February 19, 2019 by sh1pman

[kerbiloid]

Space tourists. Two worlds, two policies.

Roscosmos:

• individual approach to every guest
• comfortable cabin for three with individual seats
• personal pilot and personal guide
• proven safety
• "extreme tourism" option: press the red button if you prefer a short but impressive flight in roaring flames of burning powder

S-X

• you are just one from a passenger herd crowd
• a full cabin of crying babies and their moms, screaming chicks, and vulgar students; no comfort, no silence;
• seats far from the window, you have to push away your neighbor to look outside
• no "extreme tourism" option, no LES, you get into a steel can and pray
• the ship looks nice? well, you anyway can't see this from inside!

Choose the quality. You deserve it.

Edited February 19, 2019 by kerbiloid

[sh1pman]

@kerbiloid Also, visit magnificent, breathtaking plains of Kazakhstan as an added bonus. 

Edited February 19, 2019 by sh1pman

[kerbiloid]

Spoiler

1 hour ago, sh1pman said:

@kerbiloid Also, visit magnificent, breathtaking plains of Kazakhstan as an added bonus. 

Horse and camel riding to and from the tourist ship.

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by kerbiloid

[CatastrophicFailure]

17 minutes ago, sh1pman said:

@kerbiloid Also, visit magnificent, breathtaking plains of Kazakhstan as an added bonus. 

*slight chance of spending sub-freezing night in the taiga fighting off wolves. 

do Soyuz crews still get that neat little gun?

[sh1pman]

7 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

do Soyuz crews still get that neat little gun?

Since 2007 they get a semi-automatic Makarov pistol.

[kerbiloid]

Spoiler

1 hour ago, sh1pman said:

1 hour ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

do Soyuz crews still get that neat little gun?

Since 2007 they get a semi-automatic Makarov pistol.

Because from a two-barrel gun you can shoot just two bears, while from PM - eight.

 

[Xd the great]

6 hours ago, sh1pman said:

Since 2007 they get a semi-automatic Makarov pistol.

So there is a chance for gun crime on the ISS?

[sh1pman]

2 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

So there is a chance for gun crime on the ISS?

Theoretically. But you have to be fantastically stupid to shoot a gun in a pressurized compartment in space.

[Teilnehmer]

C’mon, that’s OK. The case of the shell perforation has already been tested and proved safe.

Edited February 20, 2019 by Teilnehmer

[Ithirahad]

5 hours ago, sh1pman said:

Theoretically. But you have to be fantastically stupid to shoot a gun in a pressurized compartment in space.

Nah, just bring some Flex Tape.

[kerbiloid]

Rogozin doubts in the Space-X ability to outperform the Russian Federation in rocket engines.
"Musk is not a technical expert in this question, so he doesn't understand the things being discussed."
_{(The transgooglation is wrong here, it's not "he doesn't understand    what he is talking about", but "what is being told about")}

"It's like to compare the petrol and the diesel engines. Until now he was flying into space on kerolox engines; he is going to reach better characteristics, but we have similar designs."
"May Gawd help him, but until then Russia is #1 in the world".

(A week earlier same messages were in a tweet of the Lavochkin Bureau).

https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=ru&amp;tl=en&amp;js=y&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=ru&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/651354

Also Rogozin said that the National Space Center creation will take 3.5 years. 20 000 engineers will be working there.
Based on Khrunichev Center, it will have 100 ha of land, plants producing the composites and microelectronics, etc. 

https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=ru&amp;tl=en&amp;js=y&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=ru&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/651357

Edited February 20, 2019 by kerbiloid

[.50calBMG]

"We are better!"

"Why?"

"Because we are!"

Edited February 20, 2019 by .50calBMG

[Xd the great]

Elon Musk: noted.

Also Elon Musk: our rockets are so cheap Russian soyuz is a luxury.

[sh1pman]

36 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

Rogozin doubts in the Space-X ability to outperform the Russian Federation in rocket engines.
"Musk is not a technical expert in this question, so he doesn't understand the things being discussed."
_{(The transgooglation is wrong here, it's not "he doesn't understand    what he is talking about", but "what is being told about")}

 "It's like to compare the petrol and the diesel engines. Until now he was flying into space on kerolox engines; he is going to reach better characteristics, but we have similar designs."
"May Gawd help him, but until then Russia is #1 in the world".

"I'm not mad about his engines, I'm not mad, I'M NOT MAD, I'M NOT!!!!"

[kerbiloid]

A source tells that they have almost selected Crocus Group as the main contractor of construction of Vostochny.
Crocus Group replies "No comments.".

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