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11 hours ago, Sandmann.bk said:
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Oooh, that does look as nice as I was imagining! It is less unique I suppose, I’ll miss the old paint job in time, but for now I just think that’s some really pleasant rocket livery.

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On 3/12/2021 at 7:45 AM, kerbiloid said:

https://www.interfax.ru/russia/755731

No insurance company wanted to insure the future Proton launch with Nauka / Science module for ISS for 17.7 bln RUR (~240 mln USD).

Didn't Zvezda launch without insurance, and to partially cover the costs they slapped a massive Pizza Hut ad on the Proton?
(PS: All yes, if Zvezda failed and because they couldn't make, or even had a backup, NASA would launch a Interim Control Module, which iirc, still, exists, but it's mothballed)

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https://www.interfax.ru/russia/755893

The only woman in the Russian cosmonaut team Anna Kikina will fly soon to ISS.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кикина,_Анна_Юрьевна

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This is NOT a replacement for the actress going to fly this autumn to same ISS to film the movie.

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https://www.interfax.ru/world/755891

Sergei Korsakov can be the first Russian cosmonaut flying to ISS by Crew Dragon.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Корсаков,_Сергей_Владимирович

He already has passed necessary adjustment of equipment in NASA.

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In exchange, Mark T. Vande Hei will fly in MS-18.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_T._Vande_Hei

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5 minutes ago, DDE said:

According to unreliable sources, an An-124 has been used for an airborne hockey match, ice rink and all.

https://t.me/moria40k/7655

So, they have started training the lunar squad of the cosmonaut team?

Low-g hockey?

Also Kikina is a professional rescue ranger, according to wiki. 

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42 minutes ago, Ziggy Kerman said:

ON SHACKLETON CRATER HOCKEY 

Nope. Shackleton is a private territory beloved by 'Muricans.

(Not that it's a so big problem, but The Larks would not agree.)

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21 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

Nope. Shackleton is a private territory beloved by 'Muricans.

(Not that it's a so big problem, but The Larks would not agree.)

Or have it wherever the Canadian base is
or IN ORBIT,  but that complicates  everything with microgravity 

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45 minutes ago, Ziggy Kerman said:

Or have it wherever the Canadian base is
or IN ORBIT,  but that complicates  everything with microgravity 

They need ice for hockey and snow for igloo, so the only  purpose of an orbital base is to have something to be attached to the Canadarm shoulder.

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https://www.interfax.ru/russia/756235

Cosmonauts now spend ~25% of worktime on housekeeping.

Last expedition has spent  579 h 20 m, i.e. 25.3% of worktime, on the Russian segment servicing.

The science took 28.6%.

Previous ten expeditions spent on science from 15% to 36% of their worktime.

Lately, the oxygen regeneration  system Ekectron-VM  was out of order 7 times. Also there were troubles with toilet and food heater.

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47 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

https://www.interfax.ru/russia/756235

Cosmonauts now spend ~25% of worktime on housekeeping.

Last expedition has spent  579 h 20 m, i.e. 25.3% of worktime, on the Russian segment servicing.

The science took 28.6%.

Previous ten expeditions spent on science from 15% to 36% of their worktime.

Lately, the oxygen regeneration  system Ekectron-VM  was out of order 7 times. Also there were troubles with toilet and food heater.

The ROS is kinda breakin on them, the thing is 30 something, at least parts of it in Zarya probably, space years for spaecraft is like dog years, lots of them in human years.

1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

They need ice for hockey and snow for igloo, so the only  purpose of an orbital base is to have something to be attached to the Canadarm shoulder.

Canadarm vs Lyappa, who's the better space arm/assembly device? 

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38 minutes ago, Ziggy Kerman said:

Canadarm vs Lyappa, who's the better space arm/assembly device? 

They have different purpose, and also we should mention Aist / Stork, Strela / Arrow, and EuropeanRoboticArm.

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1 hour ago, Ziggy Kerman said:

Canadarm vs Lyappa, who's the better space arm/assembly device? 

They should wrestle to settle it. -_-

1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

Lately, the oxygen regeneration  system Ekectron-VM  was out of order 7 times. Also there were troubles with toilet and food heater.

It would be a cruel irony if the US segment has to separate from the Russian segment because it’s irreparably broken, after the Russians threatening the opposite a few years back. :/

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5 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

It would be a cruel irony if the US segment has to separate from the Russian segment because it’s irreparably broken, after the Russians threatening the opposite a few years back. :/

If they still can undock... :cool:

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1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

If they still can undock... :cool:

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Cold welding, screws that up bigtime

 

1 hour ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

t would be a cruel irony if the US segment has to separate from the Russian segment because it’s irreparably broken, after the Russians threatening the opposite a few years back. :/

Yeah, the first threat was probably caused by everyone's favourite debate starter GEOPOLITICS, this one may be because, you literally can't live in it anymore.
Wait
I have a stupid idea
the ROS undocks (or at the least the deadly parts), but Nauka undocks first and repositions to PMA-1, like a wierd reverse Zarya-Unity berthing 

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It's equipped with "hybrid docking adaptor", made of the hard-capture ring from APAS-95-derived IDSS and the soft=capture probe from Almaz-derived modules.

Also, it doesn't have grapple fixtures for Canadarm, so it can't take it.
But it may be equipped with grapple fixtures for Aist, used by ERA. But ERA can't attach to the Canadarm grapple fixtures to walk.

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So, unlikely it's compatible with IDA/PMA.

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https://www.interfax.ru/russia/756386

Rogozin does not exclude that the Russian lunar spaceship may be adapted to the Chinese heavy rocket.

Russia and China are having a conversation about the planned launch vehicles of them.

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Interesting, will the planned Chinese rocket look like the planned Yenisei?

If so, the ship is probably highly adaptable to it...

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4 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

Interesting, will the planned Chinese rocket look like the planned Yenisei?

CZ-9?
Conceptual_image_of_Long_March_9%2C_Chinese_next_generation_super_heavy-lift_launch_vehicle.jpg

This Behemoth for the Chinese entry of the 21st Century Race back to the Moon?

(This is the CZ-9B, CZ-9A only has 2 strap-ons)

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5 hours ago, Ziggy Kerman said:

CZ-9?
Conceptual_image_of_Long_March_9%2C_Chinese_next_generation_super_heavy-lift_launch_vehicle.jpg

This Behemoth for the Chinese entry of the 21st Century Race back to the Moon?

(This is the CZ-9B, CZ-9A only has 2 strap-ons)

LM-9 is no longer being used for the Chinese lunar program (crewed or uncrewed). That role has been taken over by the new unnamed rocket, referred to currently as "921".

https://www.space.com/china-rocket-for-crewed-moon-missions

This rocket can deliver about 25 tonnes to TLI. It will require two launches for a lander and the Next Generation Crewed Spacecraft. Note what appears to be a capsule displayed next to it.

LM-9 is still in development though. I don't know whether the "LM-9 is for crewed lunar missions" statement actually came from the Chinese space industry or if people just assumed, but it doesn't appear to be the case anymore. Thus the only known mission for LM-9 is a single launch Mars sample return mission. With the appearance of 921, which uses much hardware already in use, it is possible the date for the Chinese crewed lunar program has/is going to be moved to the late 2020s instead of the 2030s.

Diameter of 921 is 5 meters. I don't know whether it matters or not as Yenisei uses (at least in the image from kerbiloid) a hammerhead fairing anyways.

I kind of wonder what the point of launching it on a Chinese rocket is supposed to be. Is it closer to being ready for flight compared to the Chinese one (I doubt it but I am asking anyway)? The Chinese one may be ready before it, and if it is launching on a Chinese rocket anyways why not use the Chinese lander.

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19 hours ago, Ziggy Kerman said:

This Behemoth for the Chinese entry of the 21st Century Race back to the Moon?

(This is the CZ-9B, CZ-9A only has 2 strap-ons)

Not enough boosters.

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12 hours ago, SunlitZelkova said:

I kind of wonder what the point of launching it on a Chinese rocket is supposed to be. Is it closer to being ready for flight compared to the Chinese one (I doubt it but I am asking anyway)? The Chinese one may be ready before it, and if it is launching on a Chinese rocket anyways why not use the Chinese lander.

Feels like it's an attempt at one or perhaps both of the following: Chinese funding of the Yenisei, and Kremlin funding of the Yenisei (because let's ne honest, the current funding is barely enough for Powerpoint slides), likely due to the political embarrassment from, and Amrican terror at, the prospect of Chinese funding of the Yenisei

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