Air Superiority Fighter Competition

[Abraxis]

Range. It means his craft can travel just under two hundred kilometers in dry mode before running out of fuel. For reference, mine can travel almost three throusand.

[Joseph Kerman]

That was running in AB mode.

[exbyde]

3 hours ago, Joseph Kerman said:

Horizontal and Total Distance, respectively

Have you run this through any BDA fights? i'll be testing in a bit, just curious

[Joseph Kerman]

12 minutes ago, exbyde said:

Have you run this through any BDA fights? i'll be testing in a bit, just curious

My KSP is in Mandarin, and BDAI doesn't work there.

[exbyde]

14 minutes ago, Joseph Kerman said:

My KSP is in Mandarin, and BDAI doesn't work there.

Just an FYI it is critical if you wish to get your craft on the roster to test it and make improvements, especially this far into competition. Your aircraft seems to have severe maneuverability/PID issues. Video will be up in a bit.

Edited December 19, 2017 by exbyde

[exbyde]

And for our first battle of the day, we have @MrChumley's ReSoup, defending its new #5 spot from @Joseph Kerman's F-15c. The F-15 is armed to the gills with 8 AMRAAMS, 4 Sidewinders, and a vulcan cannon, yet weighs just 12 tons? So how will it do against the ReSoup?

The answer is...poorly. The F-15 appears to be a missile hauler, but can't actually haul missiles. What i mean is despite having a wealth of missiles, it only fires two at a time, meaning it enters combat with well over a ton of ammunition it will never fire. Worse off, it suffers from either a lack of mobility or debilitating PID issues, where the aircraft has trouble staying in a straight line. The result is a gunfighter that can't aim, and a missile hauler that never launches its weapons. If this was mine, i'd be setting the missiles per target to 4 at least, and maybe looking into some test fights... Great looking plane, just not a good fighter at this time.

[exbyde]

As a reminder to all:

This is a five-man leaderboard. Many have not gotten here, many have fallen from the ranking before this, and competition is heating up. What would have made the #1 spot in the leaderboard before the break early december will no longer make the leaderboards at all. It is critical that you test your aircraft with BDA Autopilot battles against other ranked aircraft if you wish to place on the ranking board. At this point in the game, an untested aircraft is essentially guaranteed not to make rank if it has not been tested in BDA autopilot battles.

I know many of you test your aircraft meticulously, and this message is not necessarily for you, but i do still see submissions that are far from competitive because they were not tested.

Edited December 19, 2017 by exbyde

[Piatzin]

3 minutes ago, exbyde said:

I know many of you test your aircraft meticulously, and this message is not necessarily for you, but i do still see submissions that are far from competitive because they were not tested.

Oopsh

I tested my Lancers, but against my own craft

They seemed decent in combat though. They took out the Sanns in one battle. I need to investigate that apparent suicide/friendly fire in the first video though....

[l0kki]

2 hours ago, exbyde said:

As a reminder to all:

This is a five-man leaderboard. Many have not gotten here, many have fallen from the ranking before this, and competition is heating up. What would have made the #1 spot in the leaderboard before the break early december will no longer make the leaderboards at all. It is critical that you test your aircraft with BDA Autopilot battles against other ranked aircraft if you wish to place on the ranking board. At this point in the game, an untested aircraft is essentially guaranteed not to make rank if it has not been tested in BDA autopilot battles.

I know many of you test your aircraft meticulously, and this message is not necessarily for you, but i do still see submissions that are far from competitive because they were not tested.

I actually have not tested the F,I and I2 in bda battles

4 hours ago, exbyde said:

The answer is...poorly. The F-15 appears to be a missile hauler, but can't actually haul missiles. What i mean is despite having a wealth of missiles, it only fires two at a time, meaning it enters combat with well over a ton of ammunition it will never fire. Worse off, it suffers from either a lack of mobility or debilitating PID issues, where the aircraft has trouble staying in a straight line. The result is a gunfighter that can't aim, and a missile hauler that never launches its weapons. If this was mine, i'd be setting the missiles per target to 4 at least, and maybe looking into some test fights... Great looking plane, just not a good fighter at this time.

I would actually like to add that the F-15 suffers from a lack of maneuverability meaning it cant get a second volley of missiles off making it have 8 missiles worth of drag and excess weight

Btw @exbyde since the WunderWaffle Ausf. I2 made it to 4th place can you update the name to WunderWaffle Ausf. I2 "Pannukakku" (pannukakku means pancake)

Edited December 19, 2017 by l0kki

[exbyde]

2 hours ago, l0kki said:

I actually have not tested the F,I and I2 in bda battles

May help if you did. Immensely

2 hours ago, l0kki said:

I would actually like to add that the F-15 suffers from a lack of maneuverability meaning it cant get a second volley of missiles off making it have 8 missiles worth of drag and excess weight

Maneuverability is not as critical if you rout the enemy. Launching more missiles has a higher probability of keeping the enemy running, meaning the chance of an enemy fighter retaliating drops pretty close to zero and you can get on their tails with guns with minimal effort. Even 3v2 is better odds.

[l0kki]

1 hour ago, exbyde said:

Maneuverability is not as critical if you rout the enemy. Launching more missiles has a higher probability of keeping the enemy running, meaning the chance of an enemy fighter retaliating drops pretty close to zero and you can get on their tails with guns with minimal effort. Even 3v2 is better odds.

Looking at the footage the F-15 was having problems turning for another missile pass although i agree that launching more than 2 missiles would be advantageous

Edited December 19, 2017 by l0kki

[SuicidalInsanity]

Hmm. Lets try this again. It's technically the X-02 Taisch Mk XI, but there have been enough changes as to render it more or less a completely new airframe, so lets call it the X-03 Strigoi and go from there. It's been tested against the ReSoup and MiniVal and held its own, at least on my end. It's not the most maneuverable craft seen here, but makes up for that in... other ways.
X-03 Strigoi

[Guest]

I'm going to enter this:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun92/F-13-BrainFire

[Guest]

The f-34 bullet:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/F-34-Bullet

[Mukita12]

FlankLand FL-1 Clevation Air Superiority Fighter

https://kerbalx.com/Mukita12/FL-1-Clevation

Edited December 20, 2017 by Mukita12

[Piatzin]

https://kerbalx.com/Earthlinger/Lancer-ASF

Dis is the one

[SuicidalInsanity]

On 12/15/2017 at 6:46 PM, exbyde said:

IF anyone has a design for a reindeer and/or sleigh armed with missiles (this is unlimited class, have fun), i'd love to do a special roster fight of all the roster planes against santa and his reindeer. These do not necessarily have to follow rules, but shouldn't be made in such a way to be super op.

I've made some slight improvements to the reindeer submitter earlier, so you may want to redownload.

[Guest]

Why Should one person be able to enter many airplanes?

[HafCoJoe]

8 hours ago, dundun93 said:

Why Should one person be able to enter many airplanes?

So that enthusiasts can stay entertained and learners can reiterate and improve their designs. It's a vicious cycle of constant innovation.

Edited December 21, 2017 by Avera9eJoe

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Avera9eJoe said:

So that enthusiasts can stay entertained and learners can reiterate and improve their designs. It's a cycle of constant innovation.

Just to emphasize how ridiculous that is, maybe you guys should test every single airplane on my kerbal x profile:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/craft

[HafCoJoe]

3 minutes ago, dundun93 said:

Just to emphasize how ridiculous that is, maybe you guys should test every single airplane on my kerbal x profile:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/craft

Just to emphasize how ridiculous that is, how about no

EDIT: Those are some nice looking craft btw - I definitely suggest entering your favorite one or two.

Edited December 21, 2017 by Avera9eJoe

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Avera9eJoe said:

Just to emphasize how ridiculous that is, how about no

EDIT: Those are some nice looking craft btw - I definitely suggest entering your favorite one or two.

Hehehe! I'm just pushing the rules. Just playing around...

[HafCoJoe]

1 minute ago, dundun93 said:

Hehehe! I'm just pushing the rules. Just playing around...

XD ya got me omg... Looking at your hanger more and more, you've got some truly magnificent craft in there. I hope your above entry does well (I actually didn't notice at first sorry!)

[exbyde]

17 minutes ago, dundun93 said:

Why Should one person be able to enter many airplanes?

Because this competition would be very boring if you could only make one submission total. Also, no one has really had more than two designs active at a time, and if they did, they usually in the same breath say" ignore previous designs, this is my best work". In short, you are raising a nonissue.

Also, if you are referring to suicidalinsanity's post, it is because i asked him for exactly what is providing. We're going to be having a special christmas fight, probably on christmas eve against one of each of the roster aircraft, and i'm not artistic enough to create a weaponized sleigh and reindeer.

12 minutes ago, dundun93 said:

Just to emphasize how ridiculous that is, maybe you guys should test every single airplane on my kerbal x profile:

https://kerbalx.com/dundun93/craft

i will quote an entire filthy frank song for you if you attempt this. If you can figure out which one, kudos.

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Avera9eJoe said:

XD ya got me omg... Looking at your hanger more and more, you've got some truly magnificent craft in there. I hope your above entry does well (I actually didn't notice at first sorry!)

Thanks! My super bullet beat the "undefeable" dreadnought. And my bullet beat the micro AIV(it lost to that craft with the chip bag name). My ASW X-18 won against the supposedly "undefeatable" Morgan D. My P-92B won fourth place in the bad-t III.

Oh and my X-57 is one of the airplanes in kerbal combat simulator and is undafeatable!

The ASW X-10(the one you see on my profile picture) is highly mauverable but is packed with fuel but is my favorite.

Some work in FAR, some don't...

17 minutes ago, exbyde said:

i will quote an entire filthy frank song for you if you attempt this. If you can figure out which one, kudos.

Sure! I just won't listen. I would like you to test them all thank you. 

Edited December 21, 2017 by Guest