inigma Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 We're about 30% into the CKAN cdn.kspstuff.com host upload from KerbalStuff torrent. @Jattenalle reports they need to restart it since it seemed to be running a little slower than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukethecoder64 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Okay. Will this be temporary? Like, a permanent spaceport replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidJuho Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Wow. These news are relaxing. ( i mean it is coming back):D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper_f Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 All of you are amazing in this united response. Please make it known what is still needed for contributions; I would be most willing to help out wherever I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiusInfuser Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Was sad to hear the news about KS, so hope this works out. One question, for mod makers who previously used KerbalStuff, is it possible to reserve our usernames for the new site? I realise it's unlikely but it could be rather likely that someone may take a name before the mod author gets chance to register. Also, does this collaboration between the new KS and CKAN means that it will become mandatory for mod authors to have their mods on CKAN, because I am not OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ZodiusInfuser said: Was sad to hear the news about KS, so hope this works out. One question, for mod makers who previously used KerbalStuff, is it possible to reserve our usernames for the new site? I realise it's unlikely but it could be rather likely that someone may take a name before the mod author gets chance to register. Also, does this collaboration between the new KS and CKAN means that it will become mandatory for mod authors to have their mods on CKAN, because I am not OK with that. New site, new registration will be required. New upload. As far as combining the two and allowing all mods on the new site available on CKAN, that's still undecided, but the majority of people want this. It's a debate for another day. For now, it will be business as usual. Edited February 15, 2016 by inigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatterBeam Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, inigma said: New site, new registration will be required. New upload. As far as combining the two and allowing all mods on the new site available on CKAN, that's still undecided, but the majority of people want this. I agree with this. Make CKAN availability an opt-out thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiusInfuser Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, inigma said: New site, new registration will be required. New upload. I read the posts about that, so completely understand the privacy concerns. I'm just thinking, maybe there could be a period where only known mod authors are given the link to register an account, so they can be sure to get their previous username (or one that matches their forum name) before releasing it to the general masses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_162 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I love this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, ZodiusInfuser said: I read the posts about that, so completely understand the privacy concerns. I'm just thinking, maybe there could be a period where only known mod authors are given the link to register an account, so they can be sure to get their previous username (or one that matches their forum name) before releasing it to the general masses? SirCmpwn is in the #CKAN chat room now and will be removing personal details from the database dump so no, we will not be providing exclusive first-access. If there is a username squatting issue, VITAS is who you will want to talk to to resolve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godarklight Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Looks like we're going to get some of the database with the user information removed, we may be able to reconstruct KS fully as people register Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarStryder Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, MatterBeam said: I agree with this. Make CKAN availability an opt-out thing. Why? I could understand the concern of making CKAN only accept KS as a source but why on earth would you not want your mod on CKAN for no additional effort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiusInfuser Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, StarStryder said: Why? I could understand the concern of making CKAN only accept KS as a source but why on earth would you not want your mod on CKAN for no additional effort? Because as a mod maker it creates so many user support issues with people not getting the mod working, and automatically assuming its the mods fault rather than an issue with CKAN. That's my personal view. Also i'm a bit sour as my mods were added to CKAN without my consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yemo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ZodiusInfuser said: Because as a mod maker it creates so many user support issues with people not getting the mod working, and automatically assuming its the mods fault rather than an issue with CKAN. That's my personal view. Also i'm a bit sour as my mods were added to CKAN without my consent. I was hesitant at first about ckan, since I was the manual type myself and I had enough support issues already (though most likely much less than you). But after embracing it for some months now and looking back, I would guesstimate that it cut support issues at least in half. The install issues with wrong folder placement/module manager versions/incompatible mods and so on have largely disappeared, especially since I assumed direct control over the ckan metadata files regarding my mods.Thus after some inital getting used to, I effectively traded the most annoying/unnecessary support issues, for (now) simple and rare metadata textfile maintenance on github. Edited February 15, 2016 by Yemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxonius Augustus Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 45 minutes ago, Thomas P. said: As the current lead developer of the software, I would like to make this function available, as long as noone has any complaints. You don't have to use it, it would be entirely optional, so don't worry This makes me happy, I don't use CKAN and if I do use it in the future I don't want it to be because I HAD to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoclone09 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Why not call it Kerbal Space Dock? I like that more, and the domain is not taken under .com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwith Noname Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, legoclone09 said: Why not call it Kerbal Space Dock? Did you happen to read the front page of KerbalStuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkortech Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, legoclone09 said: Why not call it Kerbal Space Dock? I like that more, and the domain is not taken under .com. By not using Kerbal in the name they avoid one of the original issues that KerbalStuff had, getting sued for trademark infringement. This would be a problem since it isn't official and the trademark is registered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoclone09 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Manwith Noname said: Did you happen to read the front page of KerbalStuff? Maybe we can ask SQUAD if they will let us use the name? If they can that would be very nice. EDIT: I'll make a request in Kerbal Network to see if we can use the name legally. EDIT 2: @inigma Just pinging you to get a fast response, sorry for annoyance. Edited February 15, 2016 by legoclone09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, legoclone09 said: Maybe we can ask SQUAD if they will let us use the name? If they can that would be very nice. EDIT: I'll make a request in Kerbal Network to see if we can use the name legally. EDIT 2: @inigma Just pinging you to get a fast response, sorry for annoyance. SirCmpwn, the owner of KerbalStuff has requested that we change the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoclone09 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 8 hours ago, inigma said: SirCmpwn, the owner of KerbalStuff has requested that we change the name. Ok, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I'm afk for the next 8 hours. r/l calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electr0ninja Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I would like to formally volunteer to help with this project. I have several years of programming experience and some web development experience, as well as extensive Linux experience. If there is any more information you would like just pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technicalfool Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi. A relative newbie tried to post here. However I'm into about 40-ish hours into a no-sleep marathon due to recent events, and ended up clicking the big red DELETE button instead. Whoever you were, with the Linux and Python experience, apologies, and feel free to re-post. I'm off to bed. Someone who's more awake can approve the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYU AZUKU99 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, Electr0ninja said: I would like to formally volunteer to help with this project. I have several years of programming experience and some web development experience, as well as extensive Linux experience. If there is any more information you would like just pm me. https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.esper.net join descussion here. Hope the link works for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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