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  On 3/27/2020 at 6:41 AM, KSPBDAfan said:

I'm not able to at the moment.  I would tell you why, but that's more of a personal thing for me

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Understood. I need some days to assess this new situation - I need to get a compromise between this and everybody else that are running KSP <= 1.7.3 too. I already have a plan for this (i.e., KSP Recall), I need to do some digging on KSP 1.8.0 and 1.8.1 to decide the best line of action.

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  On 3/28/2020 at 9:01 AM, moguy16 said:

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DAjmyTs0B_vzL5t5aYI4e4y-t6F9oJOn 
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, the errors seem to be with nebula decals, but that hasn't happend before

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This looks like an older version of TS, the newer version of TS has different warning windows. Could you please back up your save/game folders and try the newest version?

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  On 3/28/2020 at 7:06 PM, Azic Minar said:

This looks like an older version of TS, the newer version of TS has different warning windows. Could you please back up your save/game folders and try the newest version?

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Gotcha! :)

[LOG 02:42:19.610] [TweakScale] Version 2.4.3.10 /L

But there's something else too - and this appears to be a new:

[LOG 03:05:16.438] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).
[LOG 03:05:16.439] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).
[LOG 03:05:16.616] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).
[LOG 03:05:16.616] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).

It's like pp.vvmach was not only being TweakScale applied twice, but the module TweakScale is being applied four times itself too... :o

And, well, apparently it is what happening....

[LOG 02:52:43.150] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Chrayol_Design_Org/FX/PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART
[LOG 02:52:43.150] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Chrayol_Design_Org/FX/PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART
[LOG 02:52:43.161] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART
[LOG 02:52:43.196] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART

I'm unsure about how to proceed. Could you please send also the ModuleManager.ConfigCache ? I want to confirm this is not something on the TweakScale's Sanity Check before pursuing it further...

POST EDIT: @moguy16 check if PlumeParty is not installed twice - of if there's some old files lingering when you updated. Try to plain delete everything installed with PlumeParty and then reinstall them from scratch, this looks like rogue oldies lingering on a update.

 

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  On 3/27/2020 at 7:27 PM, Lisias said:

Understood. I need some days to assess this new situation - I need to get a compromise between this and everybody else that are running KSP <= 1.7.3 too. I already have a plan for this (i.e., KSP Recall), I need to do some digging on KSP 1.8.0 and 1.8.1 to decide the best line of action.

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Visual Studio for Mac update just TRASHED my VS instalment, I can't develop anything on the damned thing. Frankly, Microsoft, it's time to serious rethink what you are doing - it's ok if you want to drop support for automatic Updates on the Mac - so just warns us and ask for a manual update, I'll do it when possible. But just trashing my machine while I'm trying to use my not so abundant time it's... it's... it's... (sigh)

Damn, I would infringe half forum rules if I don't shut my fingers up. :mad:

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  On 3/29/2020 at 7:54 PM, Lisias said:

Gotcha! :)

[LOG 02:42:19.610] [TweakScale] Version 2.4.3.10 /L

But there's something else too - and this appears to be a new:

[LOG 03:05:16.438] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).
[LOG 03:05:16.439] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).
[LOG 03:05:16.616] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).
[LOG 03:05:16.616] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ).

It's like pp.vvmach was not only being TweakScale applied twice, but the module TweakScale is being applied four times itself too... :o

And, well, apparently it is what happening....

[LOG 02:52:43.150] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Chrayol_Design_Org/FX/PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART
[LOG 02:52:43.150] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Chrayol_Design_Org/FX/PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART
[LOG 02:52:43.161] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART
[LOG 02:52:43.196] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART

I'm unsure about how to proceed. Could you please send also the ModuleManager.ConfigCache ? I want to confirm this is not something on the TweakScale's Sanity Check before pursuing it further...

POST EDIT: @moguy16 check if PlumeParty is not installed twice - of if there's some old files lingering when you updated. Try to plain delete everything installed with PlumeParty and then reinstall them from scratch, this looks like rogue oldies lingering on a update.

 

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Visual Studio for Mac update just TRASHED my VS instalment, I can't develop anything on the damned thing. Frankly, Microsoft, it's time to serious rethink what you are doing - it's ok if you want to drop support for automatic Updates on the Mac - so just warns us and ask for a manual update, I'll do it when possible. But just trashing my machine while I'm trying to use my not so abundant time it's... it's... it's... (sigh)

Damn, I would infringe half forum rules if I don't shut my fingers up. :mad:

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i uninstalled real plume, real plume stock, plume party, and smoke screen and am installing them again with ckan
will uninstalling & installing help with tweakscale as well?

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  On 3/29/2020 at 7:54 PM, Lisias said:

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Visual Studio for Mac update just TRASHED my VS instalment, I can't develop anything on the damned thing. Frankly, Microsoft, it's time to serious rethink what you are doing - it's ok if you want to drop support for automatic Updates on the Mac - so just warns us and ask for a manual update, I'll do it when possible. But just trashing my machine while I'm trying to use my not so abundant time it's... it's... it's... (sigh)

Damn, I would infringe half forum rules if I don't shut my fingers up. :mad:

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Good luck and best wishes 

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  On 3/30/2020 at 3:10 AM, moguy16 said:

i uninstalled real plume, real plume stock, plume party, and smoke screen and am installing them again with ckan
will uninstalling & installing help with tweakscale as well?

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It will not hurt - and you will get the latest TweakScale, KSP 1.9.1 "ready" (i.e., support for KSP Recall).

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  On 3/30/2020 at 4:58 AM, moguy16 said:

i am using 1.8.1

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It will work the same. TweakScale is being engineered to bring new features and stability to every KSP version supported (and I'm working to expand support to even more), backporting fixes to previous KSP versions while keeping savegames safest as possible.

So it's usually recommended to update your TweakScale to the latest so you can enjoy the new fixes (mostly patches nowadays).

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I'm getting 142 Fatal Errors? I don't quite know what's happening, i just added ksp interstellar. Is it impossible to work it out? 

on ksp 1.7.3 i think, tweakscale 2.7.3.11

https://easyupload.io/bxdbds 

 

edit: removing the relevant interstellar files not changed anything, the 142 error still happens

 

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  On 3/31/2020 at 3:39 PM, pejmany said:

I'm getting 142 Fatal Errors? I don't quite know what's happening, i just added ksp interstellar. Is it impossible to work it out? 

on ksp 1.7.3 i think, tweakscale 2.7.3.11

https://easyupload.io/bxdbds 

edit: removing the relevant interstellar files not changed anything, the 142 error still happens

 

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It looks as a Toe Stomping Fest. Lets check it...

[LOG 11:35:50.305] [TweakScale] INFO: WriteDryCost Concluded : 1753 parts found ; 0 checks failed ; 0 parts with hotfixes ; 0 parts with issues overruled ; 142 Show Stoppers found; 9 Sanity Check failed; 583 unscalable parts.

Yep, 142.

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Nowadays, such a huge amount of duplicated properties sounds like an Add'On installed twice, or new versions that renamed some files installed over older versions.

And... "That's a bingo..." :)

[LOG 11:11:54.626] Applying update TweakScale/patches/NFT_TweakScale/@PART[adapter-125-0625-2] to NearFutureConstruction/Parts/Adapters/adapter-125/adapter-125-0625-2.cfg/PART[adapter-125-0625-2]
[LOG 11:12:07.232] Applying update TweakScale/patches/NF/NFC_TweakScale/@PART[adapter-125-0625-2] to NearFutureConstruction/Parts/Adapters/adapter-125/adapter-125-0625-2.cfg/PART[adapter-125-0625-2]

Completely delete TweakScale and reinstall it. TweakScale does not keeps any user configuration on this folder, you can completely delete the folder without worries.

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  On 4/1/2020 at 12:23 PM, Lisias said:

It looks as a Toe Stomping Fest. Lets check it...

Yep, 142.

Nowadays, such a huge amount of duplicated properties sounds like an Add'On installed twice, or new versions that renamed some files installed over older versions.

And... "That's a bingo..." :)

Completely delete TweakScale and reinstall it. TweakScale does not keeps any user configuration on this folder, you can completely delete the folder without worries.

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Hey, thank you so much Lisias. 

That fixed the show stoppers, perfect. You're a lifesaver. 

Is there any way to get the sanity checks fixed? Should I be even worried about those ones?

https://easyupload.io/flsbcq

Here's the new log. 

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  On 4/2/2020 at 3:33 PM, pejmany said:

Is there any way to get the sanity checks fixed? Should I be even worried about those ones?

https://easyupload.io/flsbcq

Here's the new log. 

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That 9 ones that happens on a vanilla install are on me. Parts using ModulePartVariant using mass on the variant are borking on TweakScale because it doesn't knows yet how to cope with this situation.

Originally I had planned to tackle down this on the last holidays around here, but things got a bit out of control lately... :/

I think I have enough information for the task, this is the next task on my backlog.

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Hi i was wondering if there are updated tweakscale configs or if anyone has configs for the near future mods as some are quite old and the parts have changed, and there are some new ones looking for spacecraft solar and exploration 

thanks again for keeping this alive

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  On 4/7/2020 at 6:48 AM, Virtualgenius said:

Hi i was wondering if there are updated tweakscale configs or if anyone has configs for the near future mods as some are quite old and the parts have changed, and there are some new ones looking for spacecraft solar and exploration 

thanks again for keeping this alive

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Near Future Solar is being supported on a new thingy called "TweakScale Companion :: Near Future Solar". It's still Pre Release (mainly because I just don't have the time to test it... sorry), and I'm not 100% sure about the reason there's no issue on it (lack of bugs or lack of users? :P ).

 I would be grateful if you could beta test it and report any problems.

In the future, every NF patch on TweakScale will migrate to a Companion, and the current old ones will be deprecated.

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Hey everyone, I've been working on a modded install, but I keep getting this fatal error. I have extracted all the ERROR messages from the log, see below:
 

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Thanks in advance for help!

 

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  On 4/8/2020 at 4:35 PM, HB Stratos said:

Hey everyone, I've been working on a modded install, but I keep getting this fatal error. I have extracted all the ERROR messages from the log, see below:

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Thanks in advance for help!

 

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Hi! I need the whole KSP.log, and sometimes the ModuleManager.ConfigCache is also useful to diagnose new problems and doesn't hurt to add it in advance. Please publish these files on google drive, dropbox or something.

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Are you using TMasterson5 patches? Some of the FATALities on your log are the ones usually associated to it.

Unfortunately, TMasterson5 patches are bugged and I can fix it myself due the restrictive licensing terms.

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yeah, I am using TMasterson5. So I take there's no fix for that? Also it did conflict with ap+

Here's the full log: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628762241323499520/697525185762557953/KSP.log
and here's the Module Manager Log: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628762241323499520/697525466545913887/ModuleManager.log

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  On 4/8/2020 at 7:17 PM, HB Stratos said:

yeah, I am using TMasterson5. So I take there's no fix for that? Also it did conflict with ap+

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Nope. A complete rewrite is the only legally safe option (the problem is not the patches, they can be fixed - the problem is the licensing terms).

 

  On 4/8/2020 at 7:17 PM, HB Stratos said:
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Yep, I have confirmation. TMasterson5/tweakscaleConfigPatch is the one double patching things.

 

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  On 4/8/2020 at 7:41 AM, Lisias said:

Near Future Solar is being supported on a new thingy called "TweakScale Companion :: Near Future Solar". It's still Pre Release (mainly because I just don't have the time to test it... sorry), and I'm not 100% sure about the reason there's no issue on it (lack of bugs or lack of users? :P ).

 I would be grateful if you could beta test it and report any problems.

In the future, every NF patch on TweakScale will migrate to a Companion, and the current old ones will be deprecated.

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Shame it isn't for Near Future Exploration - I'm trying to build a Sentinel satellite, and it is being a real pain to get pretty when all my favorite probe cores are too small! :P

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T5m is gone, but after installing some more mods I have trouble again... Is there a way to stop TweakScale from accessing a single mod so it just gets ignored?

Here are my current logs, could someone help me fix this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648952609792851978/698637698046623754/KSP.log
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648952609792851978/698637724491710494/ModuleManager.log

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Hi dudes, I hope you are doing well with social distanciation mesures :confused:

I started to work on missing parts in TS for Stock/MH/Serenity because I miss some of them in my game, especially service bays. So I took a look at what was not available and robotic parts apart, my list is:

Display Name Suspected cause Origin Part Name Part Path Diagnostic Target file Done
MK1 Command Pod Reskinned Stock mk1pod_v2 Squad/Parts/Command/mk1pod_v2 New part Name Squad_CmdCtrl.cfg Ok
Service Bay 1.25 Reskinned 1.8 Stock ServiceBay_125_v2 Squad/Parts/Utility/ServiceBay_v2 New part Name Squad_Util.cfg OK
Service Bay 2.5 Reskinned 1.8 Stock ServiceBay_25_v2 Squad/Parts/Utility/ServiceBay_v2 New part Name Squad_Util.cfg OK
Protective Nose Cone Mk12A New 1.7 Stock rocketNoseConeSize3 Squad/Parts/Aero/cones New part Name Squad_Aero.cfg OK
Protective Nose Cone Mk16A New 1.7 MH rocketNoseConeSize4 SquadExpansion/MakingHistory/Parts\Aero/protectiveRocketNoseMk16/rocketNoseConeSize4 New part Name Aero.cfg OK
Protective Nose Cone Mk5A New 1.8 ? MH Size_1_5_Cone SquadExpansion/MakingHistory/Parts/Aero/protectiveRocketNoseMk5A/Size_1_5_Cone New part Name Aero.cfg OK
Tiny Nose Cone New 1.8 ? Serenity noseconeTiny SquadExpansion/Serenity/Parts/Aero New part Name Aero.cfg (new file) OK (but free not stack)
Very Small Nose Cone New 1.8 ? Serenity noseconeVS SquadExpansion/Serenity/Parts/Aero New part Name Aero.cfg (new file) OK (but free not stack)
F3S0 "Shrimp" Solid Fuel Booster New 1.8 ? Stock Shrimp Squad/Parts/Engine/SolidBoostersF New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg OK
FM1 "Mite"  Solid Fuel Booster New 1.8 ? Stock Mite Squad/Parts/Engine/SolidBoostersF New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg OK
RE-I5 "Skipper" Liquid Fuel Engine Reskinned 1.8 or 1.9 Stock engineLargeSkipper_v2 Squad/Parts/Engine/liquidEngineSkipper_v2 New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg OK
RE-M3 "MainSail" Liquid Fuel Engine Reskinned 1.8 or 1.9 Stock liquidEngineMainsail_v2 Squad/Parts/Engine/liquidEngineMainsail_v2 New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg OK
S2-17 "Thoroughbred" Solid Fuel Booster New 1.8 Stock Thoroughbred Squad/Parts/Engine/solidBoosterS2-17 New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg OK
S2-33 "Clydesdale" Solid Fuel Booster New 1.8 Stock Clydesdale Squad/Parts/Engine/solidBoosterS2-33/ New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg OK
THK "Pollux"  Solid Fuel Booster New 1.8 ? MH Pollux SquadExpansion/MakingHistory/Parts/Engine/solidBoosterTHK New part Name Engine.cfg OK
FTE-1 Drain Valve New part 1.9 Stock ReleaseValve Squad/Parts/FuelTank/drainTankFTE-1 New part Name Squad_Engines.cfg NO (not sure TS can handle drain scaling)

 

All these parts have been implemented in a forked repo and I am waiting for a GO for PR of Master Lisias to propose their modification for a v2.4.3.12.
I don't know whether TS is able to handle the drain mechanism with an existing behaviour so I did nothing at the moment with the Drain Valve. I you see that I forgot a part please tell me and I will make the appropriate updates :)

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