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Retro Starship Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 22 hours ago, tater said: $#@! cancer. So true, so true, lost my mom and dad to that. So glad I saw them in concert, best band and drummer... ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Wow, this one really upset me, perhaps more-so because it was so unexpected. If you have not seen it, Lawrence Gowan of Styx did the most lovely and tasteful tribute. I nearly lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Terry Jones died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Nnnnnnnni! Edited January 22, 2020 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Dang. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Two masters in the mud: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) In honour of Terry Jones? And may elderberries' grow profusely on his grave Edited January 23, 2020 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Breaking news: Kobe Bryant! https://www.abc15.com/sports/small-stars/tmz-kobe-bryant-dead-in-helicopter-crash Doesn't seem to be a lot of confirmation out there. I'll wait for more info before updating the thread title... Confirmed... Edited January 26, 2020 by StrandedonEarth confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: Breaking news: Kobe Bryant? https://www.abc15.com/sports/small-stars/tmz-kobe-bryant-dead-in-helicopter-crash Doesn't seem to be a lot of confirmation out there. I'll wait for more info before updating the thread title... That has been confirmed: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/26/kobe-bryant-helicopter-crash/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_kobe-310pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, Klapaucius said: That has been confirmed: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/26/kobe-bryant-helicopter-crash/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_kobe-310pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Well crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, StrandedonEarth said: Breaking news: Kobe Bryant! https://www.abc15.com/sports/small-stars/tmz-kobe-bryant-dead-in-helicopter-crash Doesn't seem to be a lot of confirmation out there. I'll wait for more info before updating the thread title... Confirmed... https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/01/26/reports--kobe-bryant-dead-in-calabasas-helicopter-crash Yeah... Damn Edited January 26, 2020 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Yeah, sad, and so very pointless given one of the principal advantages of a helo is that you can land almost anywhere if there is trouble. The weather was IFR, they were following highways, then it turns and climbs the wrong way (he's doing a 180, probably) after the pilot sees he's running out of VFR at any acceptable alt, then rapidly dropping alt. Disoriented? Wonder if the pilot was IFR rated. Getthereitis, all to avoid having to sit in a limo, instead. It'll be better if it turns out to be a mechanical problem, but it would be rough for the families to find out it was pilot error. Edited January 27, 2020 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
έķ νίĻĻάίή Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 R.I.P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 This video basically explains what likely happened. Worth the listen for anyone interested in aviation, and specifically rotary wing aircraft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotel26 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) On 1/27/2020 at 2:02 PM, tater said: Wonder if the pilot was IFR rated Sounds like this was an FAR Part 135 (Charter) operation in which case the pilot would have been mandated to be IFR-rated and current. The transition from "scud-running" to IFR is not easy when unprepared (no flight plan on file) and (not a helo pilot) but pilots are unable to hover stably on instruments (without visual references) unless the machine has been fitted with auto-hover equipment. Nevertheless, maintaining ground "contact" should be easier in a rotary by descending as necessary. Problem for the pilot's decision-making then is maintaining the 500' above structures requirement, but let's face it: Confess-Communicate-Comply -- ATC are only too happy to assist a pilot in trouble. Update: well I viewed the video (thank you) and it does state that the flight/company was "VFR-only" -- probably to save money on currency training. The pilot was an Instrument Instructor but maybe not keeping current. Edited February 1, 2020 by Hotel26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hotel26 said: Sounds like this was an FAR Part 135 (Charter) operation in which case the pilot would have been mandated to be IFR-rated and current. The transition from "scud-running" to IFR is not easy when unprepared (no flight plan on file) and (not a helo pilot) but pilots are unable to hover stably on instruments (without visual references) unless the machine has been fitted with auto-hover equipment. The guy in the vid I just posted is an EMT helo driver, and he basically said if you are not flying IFR all the time, being rated doesn't matter much, you lack the skills because you don't use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotel26 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, tater said: you lack the skills because you don't use them Probably true and I would never counter-say a practicing helicopter pilot on the subject. Being "current" in IFR means being certified as having practiced several approaches per month. In persistent clear weather, this is performed in the company of a safety pilot and the pilot-in-command dons a plastic hood to shut out the view outside and compel him or her to focus on the instruments alone. The safety pilot signs a cert in the pilot's log book after the flight. In addition, helo drivers have to practice an auto-rotation on a schedule as well. For the same reason, Multi-Engine Licensed pilots routinely practice single-engine (one engine idled) approaches to remain current. Let's just say that you can never be "too current". I think the issue is probably more one about the criticality of judgment in scud-running. If charter companies were more inclined to make use of bad weather to go safe, IFR, into the clouds, they could ensure their pilots stayed right on their game. These are always sad events, whatever the circumstances. Edited February 1, 2020 by Hotel26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Hotel26 said: These are always sad events, whatever the circumstances. Agreed. Watch the video, it's actually a really interesting conversation, and particularly interesting given the guy's expertise. The company that owns the helos only flies VFR, so his observation was that he doubted the guy was current, since when would he have the time as their principal pilot, flying for a company not certified for IFR flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Wow, one of the legends passed today. Kirk Douglas. 103 years old. Can't really complain about that. What an amazing life. "I am Spartacus!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Can't argue with that run. (image from Lonely are the Brave taken literally within a few hundred meters of where I sit right now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, tater said: Can't argue with that run. (image from Lonely are the Brave taken literally within a few hundred meters of where I sit right now) Yeah... I just saw. I thought he was indestructible RIP, sir.. you will be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Now that is a loooooong resume.... Spoiler Actor (95 credits) 2008Empire State Building Murders (TV Movie) Jim Kovalski 2004Illusion Donald Baines 2003It Runs in the Family Mitchell Gromberg 2000Touched by an Angel (TV Series) Ross Burger - Bar Mitzvah (2000) ... Ross Burger 1999Diamonds Harry Agensky 1996The Simpsons (TV Series) Chester J. Lampwick - The Day the Violence Died (1996) ... Chester J. Lampwick (voice) 1995Don Henley: The Garden of Allah (Video short) The Devil 1994Take Me Home Again (TV Movie) Ed Reece 1994Greedy Uncle Joe 1992The Secret (TV Movie) Grandpa Mike Dunmore 1991Tales from the Crypt (TV Series) General Kalthrob - Yellow (1991) ... General Kalthrob 1991Welcome to Veraz Quentin 1991Oscar Eduardo Provolone 1988Inherit the Wind (TV Movie) Matthew Harrison Brady 1987Queenie (TV Mini-Series) David Konig - Episode #1.2 (1987) ... David Konig - Episode #1.1 (1987) ... David Konig (credit only) 1986Tough Guys Archie Long 1985Amos (TV Movie) Amos Lasher 1984Draw! (TV Movie) Harry H. Holland aka Handsome Harry Holland 1983Eddie Macon's Run Carl 'Buster' Marzack 1982Remembrance of Love (TV Movie) Joe Rabin 1982The Man from Snowy River Harrison / Spur 1980The Final Countdown Capt. Matthew Yelland 1980Saturn 3 Adam 1979Home Movies Dr. Tuttle 'The Maestro' 1979The Villain Cactus Jack 1978The Fury Peter 1977The Chosen Robert Caine 1976Arthur Hailey's the Moneychangers (TV Mini-Series) Alex Vandervoort - Part IV (1976) ... Alex Vandervoort - Part III (1976) ... Alex Vandervoort - Part II (1976) ... Alex Vandervoort - Part I (1976) ... Alex Vandervoort 1976Victory at Entebbe (TV Movie) Hershel Vilnofsky 1975Once Is Not Enough Mike Wayne 1975Posse Howard Nightingale 1974Mousey (TV Movie) George Anderson 1973Scalawag Peg 1973Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (TV Movie) Dr. Jekyll / Mr. Hyde 1972The Master Touch Steve Wallace 1972The Special London Bridge Special (TV Movie) The Indian Fighter 1971Catch Me a Spy Andrej 1971A Gunfight Will Tenneray 1971The Light at the Edge of the World Denton 1970There Was a Crooked Man... Paris Pitman, Jr. 1969The Arrangement Eddie Anderson 1968The Brotherhood Frank Ginetta 1968The Legend of Silent Night (TV Movie) Narrator 1968Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In (TV Series) Guest Performer - Episode #2.5 (1968) ... Guest Performer (uncredited) - Episode #2.4 (1968) ... Guest Performer (uncredited) 1968A Lovely Way to Die Jim Schuyler 1967The War Wagon Lomax 1967The Way West Senator William J. Tadlock 1966Is Paris Burning? Gen. George S. Patton Jr. 1966Cast a Giant ShadowCol. David 'Mickey' Marcus 1966The Lucy Show (TV Series) Kirk Douglas - Lucy Goes to a Hollywood Premiere (1966) ... Kirk Douglas 1965The Heroes of Telemark Rolf 1965In Harm's Way Eddington 1964Seven Days in MayCol. Martin 'Jiggs' Casey 1963For Love or Money Deke Gentry 1963The List of Adrian Messenger George Brougham / Vicar Atlee / Mr. Pythian / ... 1963The Hook Sgt. P.J. Briscoe 1962Two Weeks in Another Town Jack Andrus 1962Lonely Are the Brave John W. "Jack" Burns 1961The Last Sunset Brendan 'Bren' O'Malley 1961Town Without Pity Maj. Steve Garrett 1960Spartacus Spartacus 1960Strangers When We Meet Larry Coe 1959Operation Petticoat Welding Seaman (uncredited) 1959The Devil's Disciple Richard Dudgeon 1959Last Train from Gun Hill Marshal Matt Morgan 1958The Vikings Einar 1957Paths of GloryCol. Dax 1957Gunfight at the O.K. Corral Doc Holliday 1957Top Secret Affair Maj. Gen. Melville A. Goodwin 1956Lust for Life Vincent Van Gogh 1955The Indian Fighter Johnny Hawks 1955Man Without a Star Dempsey Rae 1955The Racers Gino Borgesa 195420,000 Leagues Under the Sea Ned Land 1954The Jack Benny Program (TV Series) Kirk - The Jam Session Show (1954) ... Kirk 1954Ulysses Ulysses 1953Act of Love Robert Teller 1953The Juggler Hans Muller 1953The Story of Three Loves Pierre Narval (segment "Equilibrium") 1952The Bad and the Beautiful Jonathan 1952The Big Sky Jim Deakins 1952The Big Trees Jim Fallon 1951Detective Story Det. James McLeod 1951Ace in the Hole Chuck Tatum 1951Along the Great Divide Marshal Len Merrick 1950The Glass Menagerie Jim O'Connor 1950Young Man with a Horn Rick Martin 1949Champion Midge 1949A Letter to Three Wives George Phipps 1948My Dear Secretary Owen Waterbury 1948The Walls of Jericho Tucker Wedge 1947I Walk Alone Noll 'Dink' Turner 1947Out of the Past Whit 1947Mourning Becomes Electra Peter Niles 1946The Strange Love of Martha Ivers Walter O'Neil Show Producer (32 credits) Show Soundtrack (17 credits) Show Director (2 credits) Show Writer (2 credits) Show I know movie-making was simpler way back when talkies were new, but it's amazing how he was cranking out 2-3 movies a year most years. Probably not all leading roles, but still, that pace goes for three decades! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I was kind of surprised to hear the news. I forgot he was still around. 1 hour ago, StrandedonEarth said: 1959Operation Petticoat Welding Seaman (uncredited) Really? I just watched it last week, now I'm going to have to dig it out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJ Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, razark said: I just watched it last week, now I'm going to have to dig it out again. Yeah, me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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