Munar Base Collaboration Challenge

[Johnster_Space_Program]

Hello, and welcome to the munar base collaboration challenge, where we as a community will be working together to build a mun base under restrictions, like a budget!

(Inspired by the Kerbin Collaborative Space Station Challenge by @Ultimate Steve)

The Beginning

Its been about 50 years since KASA has first went and landed on the mun. KASA hasn't been back since then, and people are urging them to return. KASA has given us a total budget of 1.75 million kilofunds (AKA 1,750,000 funds) to build a mun base that will deliver crews and tourists to and from the base. The base will be called Munbase One.

In this challenge, the participants will help construct the base using existing rockets to launch each part they have created and landers. We will be sharing and passing around a savefile that I have created to accomplish this. LKO is a 100km orbit.

The Rules

No Cheating, No savefile editing, No controlling other people's parts, only your ones, Everyone must work together, You Must Use An Existing Rocket For Launches, No Creating New Ones, You Can Do Simulation/Test Launches Before The Actual Launch That Costs Funds For "No Cost In The Budget", You Must Use Stock KSP, No MH

The Launch Vehicles/Rockets

There are 6 launch vehicles to choose from. You must use one of them for launching, not make a new one. You cannot change fairing size, unless you want to pay an extra 12,500 funds.

Rocket 1 - Ares IIB

Cost: 17.1k. Tons To LKO/TLI: 3.5 tons. Flies Once Every: 25 days. Ares IIB is NOT Kerbal Rated (Meaning Kerbals Cannot Fly On It)

Rocket 2 - KLS

Cost: 103k. Tons To LKO/TLI: 20 tons. Flies Once Every: 100 days. KLS IS Kerbal Rated (Meaning Kerbals Can Fly On It)

Rocket 3 - Katurn III

Cost: 52k. Tons To LKO/TLI: 12 tons, but can be pushed to 13.5 tons. Flies Once Every: 60 days. Katurn III IS Kerbal Rated (Meaning Kerbals Can Fly On It)

Rocket 4 - MV12

Cost: 24k. Tons To LKO/TLI: 5 tons. Flies Once Every: 35 days. MV12 Is NOT Kerbal Rated (Meaning Kerbals Cannot Fly On It)

Rocket 5 - Kova VT6

Cost: 67k. Tons To LKO/TLI: 16.5 tons. Flies Once Every: 72 days. Kova VT6 Is NOT Kerbal Rated

Rocket 6 - Ares IIC

Cost: 25k. Tons To LKO/TLI: 8 tons. Flies Once Every: 40 days. Ares IIC IS Kerbal Rated

 

Participation and Launch Plan

Everyone that participates will each build their own separate part for the base. The parts will also be launched in order, one at a time. We also have to decide where on the mun is the base place to build the base, once we agree on the best spot on the mun to build it, then we can start construction. We also have to not go over budget, or the challenge is lost.

Restrictions

These are the restrictions for everyone that participates:

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Restrictions:

Everyone can only launch a total of 2 uncrewed missions and 1 crewed mission, no more than that

Every Crewed Vehicle/Mission Must Have An LES

The Total Cost Cannot Exceed The Budget

LKO tons is the amount it can put on a TLI to the mun

 

Here is the current launch plan, if you want to launch a part that someone else hasn't chosen, tell me in a post below.

Spoiler

 

Current Launch Plan:

1. Robotic Lander: @Johnster_Space_Program

2. Hab. Base Part 1: @Rocket_man1234

3. First Crew: @Ultimate Steve

4. Mobile Station:

4.5. Electric/Solar Panel Base Part:

5. Mining Rig: @VA7NFH

6. Science Base Part: @Ultimate Steve

7. Second Crew:

8. First Crew Returns Home:

9. Rover 1:

10. Hab. Base Part 2: @Bill the Kerbal

11. Sample Return Mission:

12. Rover 2:

13. Third Crew:

 

Participants:

@Johnster_Space_Program

@Rocket_man1234

@Bill the Kerbal

@Ultimate Steve

@VA7NFH

The Launchers (All 6 Rockets .craft files): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eYiKDHjDFTGyF-UsH-T1Got8aJB4b8ME/view?usp=sharing

Mun Base Plan Spreadsheet (Add To It!): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10E4nOUEnGMonw6QJEy7B7FKFzueSDRLnwy4RXsGcD38/edit?usp=sharing

To Everyone That Participates, Good Luck! 

Edited March 31, 2019 by Johnster_Space_Program

[Ultimate Steve]

Alright, then, I was thinking of doing a follow up challenge, but I guess this will do. I'm going to focus on updating the KCSS OP and actually getting the ball rolling for now, but once that's through the rough phase I may join this.

[Johnster_Space_Program]

2 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said:

Alright, then, I was thinking of doing a follow up challenge, but I guess this will do. I'm going to focus on updating the KCSS OP and actually getting the ball rolling for now, but once that's through the rough phase I may join this.

ok, sounds great!

[Ultimate Steve]

54 minutes ago, Johnster_Space_Program said:

1,750,000 million kilofunds

As in 1,750,000 funds or 1,750,000,000,000 funds? I'm guessing the first one.

[Johnster_Space_Program]

25 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said:

As in 1,750,000 funds or 1,750,000,000,000 funds? I'm guessing the first one.

its 1,750,000 funds. I will fix that confusion.

[Johnster_Space_Program]

If anyone has a better name for the base, tell me.

[Ultimate Steve]

A few questions:

• Is the limit one launch per person?
• I notice that the landers and the crew return vehicles are separate. Is there a reason for this? I believe it would be simpler to land and return the crew in the same vehicle, with maybe an emergency escape vehicle in there.
• Not a question but there are a few grammatical errors in the OP. I'm seeing "KLS IS man rated" on vehicles that are not the KLS.
• Have you test flown the vehicles with maximum payload? Any chance we could get max payload numbers for Trans-Munar injection?
• I'd imagine that it would be stock parts and no DLC, but that is not said in the OP, I think you might want to change that.

Also, custom fairings at 30k? That's quite a bit. Does that mean that every crew vehicle is 30k more for needing either none or a custom fairing? Also, any restrictions on launch escape systems and such? Any safety guidelines for the crew vehicles? Maybe they could fit in the fairings if it didn't need an LES.

[Ultimate Steve]

Also, how high is the LKO? 70km? 100? 120?

[Johnster_Space_Program]

8 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said:

Also, how high is the LKO? 70km? 100? 120?

Its 100km (I will update the OP and make some changes)

Edited March 27, 2019 by Johnster_Space_Program

[Johnster_Space_Program]

9 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said:

A few questions:

• Is the limit one launch per person?
• I notice that the landers and the crew return vehicles are separate. Is there a reason for this? I believe it would be simpler to land and return the crew in the same vehicle, with maybe an emergency escape vehicle in there.
• Not a question but there are a few grammatical errors in the OP. I'm seeing "KLS IS man rated" on vehicles that are not the KLS.
• Have you test flown the vehicles with maximum payload? Any chance we could get max payload numbers for Trans-Munar injection?
• I'd imagine that it would be stock parts and no DLC, but that is not said in the OP, I think you might want to change that.

I have added a restrictions section, which should answer most of the questions. I have flown vehicles with a max payload for LKO. Also the reason there is a separate crew lander and return vehicle is because it would be better in case something happened in my opinion. Also it would show where the previous crew had landed in their craft.

[Johnster_Space_Program]

I might update the OP later if necessary to make more changes.

[Johnster_Space_Program]

Anyone want to do the hab base parts or surface sample mission?

[Johnster_Space_Program]

I'm hoping we can start this soon

[KerbalKore]

can we use restock?

Can we have MH installed but not use it?

if so, put me down for the hab part 1.

Edited March 29, 2019 by Bill the Kerbal

[Rocket_man1234]

Could I build the hab 1, il be building it as I type this regardless just in case. Also is the budget per launch or as a total minus each launch making it harder to launch for later missions because if so, there should probably be a limit so I don't mess it up and make the mission too expensive. Also if I do get chosen, id like to suggest that on the robotic lander mission there should be an ore sat that hitches a ride to the moon to determine where to land. 

Edited March 29, 2019 by Rocket_man1234

[Johnster_Space_Program]

17 minutes ago, Rocket_man1234 said:

Could I build the hab 1, il be building it as I type this regardless just in case. Also is the budget per launch or as a total minus each launch making it harder to launch for later missions because if so, there should probably be a limit so I don't mess it up and make the mission too expensive. Also if I do get chosen, id like to suggest that on the robotic lander mission there should be an ore sat that hitches a ride to the moon to determine where to land. 

ok, that's a good idea

39 minutes ago, Bill the Kerbal said:

can we use restock?

Can we have MH installed but not use it?

if so, put me down for the hab part 1.

yes, restock is allowed, since it doesn't add any parts, just changes the textures

 

@Rocket_man1234 ok, you can build hab 1

@Bill the Kerbal you can build hab part 2,  or the electrics/solar part if you want

[Rocket_man1234]

@Johnster_Space_Program How high should the base be off the munar surface? just want to know so everyone isn't guessing and checking for the hight of the docking ports.

Edited March 29, 2019 by Rocket_man1234

[Johnster_Space_Program]

Just now, Rocket_man1234 said:

@Johnster_Space_Program How high should the base be off the munar surface? just want to know so everyone isn't guessing and checking for the hight of the docking ports.

the base should be a few meters off the surface

[Ultimate Steve]

I'd like to propose an easy to use standard, but I'm not at home right now so I'll explain when I get home. Many people use this standard, it's based off of the height of a landing leg and is consistent no matter what diameter part you use.

I've also been working on a crew transfer vehicle which can be used either way.

[KerbalKore]

@Johnster_Space_Program

Put me down for Hab Part 2 or science part.

also do they have to dock to the base or be within walking distance or what?

Edited March 29, 2019 by Bill the Kerbal
Clarification

[Johnster_Space_Program]

20 minutes ago, Bill the Kerbal said:

@Johnster_Space_Program

Put me down for Hab Part 2 or science part.

also do they have to dock to the base or be within walking distance or what?

they have to be within 0-500m or basically walking distance of the robotic lander (since that will be the first part of the base landed)

And you can do the hab part 2

All the parts should be landed within that distance of each other, since its easier than docking them all together @Rocket_man1234

edit: updated spreadsheet and added your names to OP

Edited March 29, 2019 by Johnster_Space_Program

[KerbalKore]

as part of the first launch, someone should bring a mapping satellite so we know where the ore is

[Johnster_Space_Program]

46 minutes ago, Bill the Kerbal said:

as part of the first launch, someone should bring a mapping satellite so we know where the ore is

yes, that will be part of the robotic lander mission, it should help determine what is the best place to set up base

Edited March 29, 2019 by Johnster_Space_Program

[Ultimate Steve]

I'm home but I can't show the docking standard because I have to go soon. If we're doing docking. I'd prefer to, but I know that landing stuff near other stuff is a skill that not everyone possesses.

[KerbalKore]

4 hours ago, Johnster_Space_Program said:

they have to be within 0-500m or basically walking distance of the robotic lander (since that will be the first part of the base landed)

@Ultimate Steve