Kerbal Space Program: Breaking Ground Expansion - Grand Discussion Thread

[purpleivan]

1 hour ago, Phreakish said:

Try disabling auto strut on your hinges. 

That worked, I now have no deployment problems. A bit strange behaviour though, even if the fix works. All not work would have made more sense, but random hinges not working as expected each scene load... wierd.

Thanks though for the tip.

[MechBFP]

4 minutes ago, purpleivan said:

That worked, I now have no deployment problems. A bit strange behaviour though, even if the fix works. All not work would have made more sense, but random hinges not working as expected each scene load... wierd.

Thanks though for the tip.

So did you enable auto strut yourself, or did the game do it automatically?

[purpleivan]

5 minutes ago, MechBFP said:

So did you enable auto strut yourself, or did the game do it automatically?

It would have been me, not the game doing it automatically. It's not something I'd used until recently, but it helped with aircraft and boat stability when I went on my round Kerbin trip the last few months.

Edited May 31, 2019 by purpleivan

[MechBFP]

1 minute ago, purpleivan said:

It would have been me, not the game doing it automatically. It's not something I'd used until recently, but it helped with aircraft and boat stability when I went on my round Kerbin trip the last few months.

That’s good to know. Definitely a bug though. You should submit it and your video to the official bug tracker, as obviously autostruts should either always break the hinges from moving, or never, not randomly like you are seeing. 

[Ace76inDC]

21 hours ago, purpleivan said:

Now that I've had a quick tinker with the new parts, here's what I said I'd make as soon as I had the new DLC.

It's a bit rough at sea (pulls to one side when using more than x2 physics warp) and it's a bit slow as a rover, but as a concept it does work.

Now that's pretty cool.  I wonder if there's a way to add ballast tanks to make a submarine rover?

[mindstalker]

14 hours ago, fourfa said:

So far, in real use the rotors aren't pushing close to the 460rpm game max. Especially not if you're getting useful amounts of lift or thrust from them.  I've found stacking two motors can help get a lot closer to that 460rpm max, without breaking the form factor and having to add nacelles.

More than 2 - so far it turns into a wiggly stack of jello for me.  I found one rudimentary way to stiffen it up here:

https://kerbalx.com/fourfa/Kessna-Twin

With external struts to secure the loose end.

If they ever do officially make airplane rotors a part, seems like they could simply make them visually spin at some value lower then 500rpms while providing trust aerodynamic of a multiplier above that.  So visually going 500rpms but acting as if going 1500rpms.

Edited May 31, 2019 by mindstalker

[JERONIMO]

13 minutes ago, Ace76inDC said:

Now that's pretty cool.  I wonder if there's a way to add ballast tanks to make a submarine rover?

why u need a ballast? look at this bbs.

accelerating underwater.

 

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And this one is collects verryimportant Binformation.

[Sidestrafe2462]

6 minutes ago, JERONIMO said:

why u need a ballast? look at this bbs.

accelerating underwater.

Couple of reasons:

A: In case you want to go back up

B: pull a hazardish, build something epic, realize it wont go down

C: too lazy to design something that works well or efficiently (me) 

[JERONIMO]

Just now, Sidestrafe2462 said:

Couple of reasons:

A: In case you want to go back up

B: pull a hazardish, build something epic, realize it wont go down

C: too lazy to design something that works well or efficiently (me) 

Problem a solution:

Engine off.

Problem b solution:
the new parts solve this with a SNAP. just use the goliath engine and the hinge things.

Problem c solution:

idk why i'm writing this i mean i shoudn't say it but there is a ballast thingy mod, but tbh the idea is cool. my thing is something i did in 10 minutes while drinking tea.

[Sidestrafe2462]

3 minutes ago, JERONIMO said:

Problem a solution:

Engine off.

Problem b solution:
the new parts solve this with a SNAP. just use the goliath engine and the hinge things.

Problem c solution:

idk why i'm writing this i mean i shoudn't say it but there is a ballast thingy mod, but tbh the idea is cool. my thing is something i did in 10 minutes while drinking tea.

Forgot point D:

In case you want to participate in the heresy that is LESS ENGINES or

E: you want to keep constant speed without having to fiddle with throttles or

F: You want to save fuel

And yeah, there is a ballast mod. Last I checked it was really finicky though

Edited May 31, 2019 by Sidestrafe2462

[JERONIMO]

1 minute ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

Forgot point D:

In case you want to participate in the heresy that is LESS ENGINES or

E: you want to keep constant speed without having to fiddle with throttles or

F: You want to save fuel

huh, i'll see if i can solve this with rotors.

if this'll work.

but later

Edited May 31, 2019 by JERONIMO

[Sidestrafe2462]

G: no moving parts

but yeah rotor subs seem cool

[JERONIMO]

54 minutes ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

G: no moving parts

but yeah rotor subs seem cool

u can just place tons of u know ore tanks with electric wheels????

[Sidestrafe2462]

5 minutes ago, JERONIMO said:

u can just place tons of u know ore tanks with electric wheels????

H: easily adjustable on the fly (ability to come back down required)

I: not a ridiculous amount of parts to ore

I do play with ore tanks a lot, and technically Ore does count as ballast.

Edited May 31, 2019 by Sidestrafe2462

[JERONIMO]

10 minutes ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

H: easily adjustable on the fly (ability to come back down required)

I: not a ridiculous amount of parts to ore

I do play with ore tanks a lot, and technically Ore does count as ballast.

so ore tanks have this one abillity, maybe u didn't notice but it's called throw away all ore.

If this is not your choise, i have something for you.

While it's slower than my submarine, it does meet the conditions, you can do it with 2 ore tanks but to speed it up i did 4.

Ladies and Gentelmen, I want to introduce you to Mightiestcondria!

12 parts! Ore tanks! Decouplers included! A parachute!!!

over -200m in under 3 minutes! 

Decoupled+Parachutes!

What's included: A probe x1

                            Batteries (1000 wats) x2

                            Parachute (big) x1

                            Decouplers x2

                            Ore tanks x4

                            Ore x1200

                            Air intake cones (optional) x2

What's not included:

                            science things.

                          

[Pthigrivi]

Hey is there a decent submarine mod out there or does the current buoyancy model make that hard/impossible?

[Sidestrafe2462]

This has gotten off topic quite quickly, lol. In any case throwing away all ore for individual tanks doesn't let you put the tanks/ore back on/in while under water, so no easy dive control.

 

On topic though, has anyone tried making counter rotating propellers yet?

[JERONIMO]

6 minutes ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

This has gotten off topic quite quickly, lol. In any case throwing away all ore for individual tanks doesn't let you put the tanks/ore back on/in while under water, so no easy dive control.

 

On topic though, has anyone tried making counter rotating propellers yet?

yeah it did, sorry.

but yes i did while trying to build my spinning station after 10 minutes of installing the mod.

also this is my great number post so see u in 10 years.

Edited May 31, 2019 by JERONIMO
i 100% did not edit this post. why u say i edited it forum.

[Klapaucius]

12 minutes ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

This has gotten off topic quite quickly, lol. In any case throwing away all ore for individual tanks doesn't let you put the tanks/ore back on/in while under water, so no easy dive control.

 

On topic though, has anyone tried making counter rotating propellers yet?

If you include copters in that, check out this one (not mine, just a great build):

https://kerbalx.com/Brikoleur/BAK-50-x2

[JERONIMO]

my creation, low res sorry for dat

[Jarin]

KSP Twitter highlighted a suit color customization vid... which really just highlights the limitations of the system (locked to male/female colors). Individual suit colors for my kerbals when?

[Pthigrivi]

32 minutes ago, Jarin said:

KSP Twitter highlighted a suit color customization vid... which really just highlights the limitations of the system (locked to male/female colors). Individual suit colors for my kerbals when?

I do like the new suits but they should toss in 2 more colors and make it Orange = Original 4, Blue = Pilots, Red = Engineers, Green = Scientists.

Edited May 31, 2019 by Pthigrivi

[Kerbart]

18 hours ago, Pthigrivi said:

Squad: Don't use these to make propellers.
Literally everyone: *makes propellers*

That's still the highlight for Breaking Ground for me.

[Phil deCube]

I seem to have a problem with hinges. If I add any weight at all to a G-11 Hinge, or a G-12L Alligator Hinge, they stop moving. Mass-less parts like Cubic Octagonal Struts or a Communotron 16 work OK, but if a I swap it with a 16-S (0.015t) the hinges won't move.

Any ideas?

Never mind. I removed all my mods and it seems to work better. Now to figure out which one it is...

Edited June 1, 2019 by Phil deCube
Looks like it's a Mod.

[Klapaucius]

25 minutes ago, Phil deCube said:

I seem to have a problem with hinges. If I add any weight at all to a G-11 Hinge, or a G-12L Alligator Hinge, they stop moving. Mass-less parts like Cubic Octagonal Struts or a Communotron 16 work OK, but if a I swap it with a 16-S (0.015t) the hinges won't move.

Any ideas?

Never mind. I removed all my mods and it seems to work better. Now to figure out which one it is...

Have you adjusted the torque?