StrandedonEarth Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hertz makes an order for 100,000 Model 3's worth $4.3B, which is the largest EV order ever. That'll make the waiting list grow a bit longer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 And apparently Tesla is now worth $1T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Yup… demand problem all right… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 So, finally got my FSD beta yesterday. And then lost it. And then got it again. Because apparently this happened: Beta software gonna beta, but yeesh, it was dang near undrivable for a stretch there, FSD or no. And now that I’ve had a couple drives with it… yeah, it’s kinda like driving with a flustered 16 year old at the wheel. This should be interesting. but it does seem to have finally stopped diving into turn lanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) Tesla opened a factory in Markham, Ontario, for making battery production equipment. With a factory dedicated to making battery manufacturing machinery, that (hopefully) means a LOT of battery production lines. Reuters Building the machine that builds the machines that build the machines.... Edited November 7, 2021 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 23 hours ago, StrandedonEarth said: Tesla opened a factory in Markham, Ontario, for making battery production equipment. With a factory dedicated to making battery manufacturing machinery, that (hopefully) means a LOT of battery production lines. Reuters Building the machine that builds the machines that build the machines.... Great, factories is a great way to improve battery production technologies. Even that sounds funny but we need machines that build the other machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Okay, Not really about Tesla, but since Tesla is pretty much synonymous with EV and there is no EV thread apparently, I'll just drop this here... Apparently Dodge, er, FCA is finally ready to get into the EV game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 4:20 PM, Jack White said: Great, factories is a great way to improve battery production technologies. Even that sounds funny but we need machines that build the other machines. We need factories to make the machines to make the machines who make the end product for now, later we will need much more layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, magnemoe said: We need factories to make the machines to make the machines who make the end product for now, later we will need much more layers. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, StrandedonEarth said: Apparently Dodge, er, FCA is finally ready to get into the EV game... Maybe if they try really hard they can finally compete with the Model S… from 2012… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, StrandedonEarth said: Tesla is pretty much synonymous with EV Just 15% of total.https://www.statista.com/statistics/541390/global-sales-of-plug-in-electric-vehicle-manufacturers/ 7 hours ago, magnemoe said: We need factories to make the machines to make the machines who make the end product for now, later we will need much more layers. Humans, too. I mean, to make humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: Just 15% of total. 21% once you subtract plug-in hybrids, the next highest is VW with half that. https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-still-leads-global-ev-market-and-its-not-even-close/ And something like 80% market share in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Yeah, ther other EVs I see look like noise, and with few exceptions (Ford and Porsche) I instantly think, "Why did you buy that instead of a Tesla?" And I think that of the Ford and Porsche, too, here in NM—because taking them out for a drive almost anywhere outside ABQ means a long drive, and that's not even ideal for Teslas yet. My buddy took his X to his house in Durango a couple times, then gave up and takes his Audi instead because of supercharger availability (lack of) N of Santa Fe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, tater said: EVs <...> Porsche Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakaydos Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Oh, is Porche making an all-electric Tank Destroyer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Rakaydos said: Oh, is Porche making an all-electric Tank Destroyer? Yes, almost 80 years ago. But a hybrid one, of course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungar3x7 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 12:21 AM, kerbiloid said: Yes, almost 80 years ago. But a hybrid one, of course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant Wow, 6.5 liters per kilometer, highway. That's Petrol, not diesel as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/exclusive-sec-probes-tesla-over-whistleblower-claims-solar-panel-defects-2021-12-06/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) This guy's Model S wouldn't work, and Tesla quoted him 20000 Euros to replace the entire battery assembly. Instead, he decided to blow it up with 30 kg of dynamite. Edited December 28, 2021 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/elon-musk-s-car-company-tesla-faces-allegations-of-racist-discrimination-against-black-employees-133168709936 Ouch (Worth watching) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I will add: this kind of sensational news is often one sided clickbait. Plaintiffs often overstate their cases in the hopes of a jury award... Although if true, they certainly state a claim for which relief should be granted. Which brings up the importance of the jury. Shrug - whether it even reaches a jury is kind of unlikely. Thing is that companies get sued all the time, sometimes with meritorious claims sometimes for utter nonsense, and the sad truth is that it is often cheaper to settle than prove innocence. Will be interesting to see how this pans out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) You can google a specific type of bad claim about a workplace, sexism, racism, yada, yada, yada, and put in a company name of your choice, amazon, GM, BMW, tesla, etc—and you will find they have been or are being sued by someone making that claim. Heck, works for national labs, too, not just their contractors. Welcome to American, the land of the frivolous lawsuit. Not every claim is frivolous, but the idea that Tesla has some intentional policy around this is utterly absurd. Individual workers are humans, and some humans are lousy, so sure. But all the incentive structures are for HR to stomp this, honestly to the point of over correction in many cases. Any claim that all outcome differences must have a systemic cause is religion, not reality, IMO. My cousin is quite well off via defending such claims in court (he's a defendant's attorney (partner) at a huge firm back east that does this nationally and internationally), and they have a list of clients that looks like the fortune 500. Edited February 19, 2022 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just now, CatastrophicFailure said: Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence. Individual claims that some single event happened—not extraordinary at all. Absolutely should involve some sort of follow up—but any claim should require evidence. Claims of a pattern or system of doing so needs proof at a higher level, since you need to prove it happened, and it was policy to happen. Neither are impossible to demonstrate in cases where it actually happened. Anything that happens at tesla gets huge press right now, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 3 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Plaintiffs often overstate their cases The US court system is based on an adversarial justice model. You are not ever supposed to make your opponents case for them. You present your own case as strongly as possible, and let the opponents defend themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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