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[1.12.x] CryoTanks: Liquid Hydrogen storage and management (Aug 13, 2024)

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howardxu23

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13 hours ago, Davi SDF said:

hmm, that doesn't seem right, what are your mods?

quite large :P
 

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[x] science
better burn time
bon voyage
community resource pack
Community tech tree
Cryoengines
all near future packs(launch vehicles, aeronautics, electrical, construction, exploration, propulsion, solar, spacecraft)
far future technologies
DMagic science
easy vessel switch
Editor extensions Redux
simple construction
Ferram Aerospace Research
field training facility and lab
firespitter
Flight Manager for Reusable Stages
hanger extender
heat system
Raster prop moniter
KAS/KIS
kerbal atomics
kerbal engineer
kerbal joint reinforcement
kopernicus+ outer planets mod
ksp community fixes
MK4 spaceplanes
mechjeb 2
Modular Flight Integrator
docking port alignment
real scale sea dragon
OPT space plane pack
parallax
Kerbal Planetary Base Systems
deep freeze cryo pods
Resonant orbit calculator
soviet spacecraft and station pack
routine mission manager
SCANsat
science alert
science relay
ship manifest
SpaceY Lifters
stage recovery
Station parts expansion Redux+IVA
the gold standard
waterfall
USI+MKS pack

additional findings:
Apparently it seems that the part is technically "bought" actually, basically I search for the part's fuel, and it shows as placable for some of them
searching by their contents
JEmbHPz.png
regular tank tab serach
Vbo1C4g.png
might be an issue with B9 or firespitter, going to reinstall both to check
follow up: does not seem to work

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Davi SDF

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7 hours ago, howardxu23 said:

quite large :P
 

additional findings:
Apparently it seems that the part is technically "bought" actually, basically I search for the part's fuel, and it shows as placable for some of them
searching by their contents
JEmbHPz.png
regular tank tab serach
Vbo1C4g.png
might be an issue with B9 or firespitter, going to reinstall both to check
follow up: does not seem to work

Hm, i don't know much about some of these mods, but that seems like a duplication issue, some mod seems to be duplicating the tanks but not hiding the old ones.

I'm not familiar with some of these mods, sorry. But i would recomend removing one, opening the game, and see if that changes something, if not, repeat until you find the culprit.

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On 6/15/2023 at 10:21 PM, Davi SDF said:

Hm, i don't know much about some of these mods, but that seems like a duplication issue, some mod seems to be duplicating the tanks but not hiding the old ones.

I'm not familiar with some of these mods, sorry. But i would recomend removing one, opening the game, and see if that changes something, if not, repeat until you find the culprit.

right I have figured out what the hell is going on
Apparently when downloading kerbal atomics I moved the gamedata folder into the gamedata folder
basically, it now has a gamedata/gamedata/kerbalatomics stacked folder now

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20 hours ago, howardxu23 said:

right I have figured out what the hell is going on
Apparently when downloading kerbal atomics I moved the gamedata folder into the gamedata folder
basically, it now has a gamedata/gamedata/kerbalatomics stacked folder now

I see, i'm happy that you figured it out!

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Stridsape

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Hello!

I'm having trouble with the fuel tanks from Universal Storage 2 - the option for switching fuel is there in the VAB but when you switch to any fuel other than LF+OX the option for fuel amount disappear, and the tanks are empty. I've tried to make sense of the config files but I don't understand how to make it work, unfortunately.

This only applies to the tanks for US2 - all other tanks work well.  I made a post about this in the US2 thread but wanted to ask here as well in case others are searching for the same issue. US2 thread here

 

Regards and thanks in advance,

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Cheesecake

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2 hours ago, Stridsape said:

Hello!

I'm having trouble with the fuel tanks from Universal Storage 2 - the option for switching fuel is there in the VAB but when you switch to any fuel other than LF+OX the option for fuel amount disappear, and the tanks are empty. I've tried to make sense of the config files but I don't understand how to make it work, unfortunately.

This only applies to the tanks for US2 - all other tanks work well.  I made a post about this in the US2 thread but wanted to ask here as well in case others are searching for the same issue. US2 thread here

 

Regards and thanks in advance,

Do you have another mod for fuelswitch like interstellar fuelswitch or real fuels?

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1 hour ago, Cheesecake said:

Do you have another mod for fuelswitch like interstellar fuelswitch or real fuels?

No, I don't think so, but I'll include a list of my installed mods from CKAN here just in case;

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B9 Part Switch (B9PartSwitch v2.20.0)
BetterTimeWarpContinued (BetterTimeWarpCont 2.3.13)
BonVoyage (BonVoyage 1:1.4.1)
Breaking Ground (BreakingGround-DLC 1.7.1)
Celestial Body Science Editor (CelestialBodyScienceEditor 12.0)
Chatterer (Chatterer 0.9.99)
ClickThrough Blocker (ClickThroughBlocker 1:2.1.10.21)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit v112.0.1)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack v112.0.1)
Community Tech Tree (CommunityTechTree 1:3.4.4)
Contract Configurator (ContractConfigurator v2.6.6.0)
Contract Pack: Bases and Stations Reborn (ContractConfigurator-KerbinSpaceStation 2:3.7.3.1)
Contract Pack: Field Research (ContractConfigurator-FieldResearch 1.2.2)
Contract Pack: Kerbal Academy (ContractConfigurator-KerbalAcademy 1.1.10)
Contract Pack: Tourism Plus (ContractConfigurator-Tourism 1.5.2)
Cryo Tanks (CryoTanks 1.6.5)
Cryo Tanks Core (CryoTanks-Core 1.6.5)
Cryogenic Engines (CryoEngines 1:2.0.6)
Deployable Engines Plugin (DeployableEngines 1.3.1)
Docking Port Alignment Indicator (DockingPortAlignmentIndicator 6.10.0.0)
Dynamic Battery Storage (DynamicBatteryStorage 2:2.2.5.0)
Environmental Visual Enhancements Redux (EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements 3:1.11.7.1)
Harmony 2 (Harmony2 2.2.1.0)
Kerbal Actuators (KerbalActuators v1.8.5)
Kerbal Alarm Clock (KerbalAlarmClock v3.14.0.0)
Kerbal Atomics (KerbalAtomics 1:1.3.3)
Kerbal Changelog (KerbalChangelog v1.4.2)
Kerbal Engineer Redux (KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.9.0)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.29)
Kerbalism (Kerbalism 3.18)
Kerbalism - Default Config (Kerbalism-Config-Default 3.18)
Kerbalism Companion Calculator (KerbalismCompanionCalculator v1.3.0)
KSP Community Fixes (KSPCommunityFixes 1.31.1)
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MechJeb 2 (MechJeb2 2.14.3.0)
Mk2.5 Spaceplane Parts (RaginCaucasian 1.5.3.1)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 4.2.3)
Near Future Aeronautics (NearFutureAeronautics 2.1.1)
Near Future Construction (NearFutureConstruction 1.3.1)
Near Future Electrical (NearFutureElectrical 1.2.3)
Near Future Electrical - Decaying RTGs (NearFutureElectrical-DecayingRTGs 1.2.3)
Near Future Electrical Core (NearFutureElectrical-Core 1.2.3)
Near Future Exploration (NearFutureExploration 1.1.2)
Near Future IVA Props (NearFutureProps 1:0.7.1)
Near Future Launch Vehicles (NearFutureLaunchVehicles 2.2.0)
Near Future Propulsion (NearFuturePropulsion 1.3.5)
Near Future Solar (NearFutureSolar 1.3.2)
Near Future Solar Core (NearFutureSolar-Core 1.3.2)
Near Future Spacecraft (NearFutureSpacecraft 1.4.3)
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RasterPropMonitor (RasterPropMonitor 1:v0.31.13.3)
RasterPropMonitor Core (RasterPropMonitor-Core 1:v0.31.13.3)
Real Plume (RealPlume 2:v13.3.2)
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ReStock (ReStock 1.4.3)
ReStock+ (ReStockPlus 1.4.3)
RSMP - Remastered Solid Plume Effects [ALL OLD RELEASES OUTDATED!!!] (SRBWaterfallEffects 2:0.3.1)
SCANsat (SCANsat v20.4)
Scatterer (Scatterer 3:v0.0838)
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Scatterer Sunflare (Scatterer-sunflare 3:v0.0838)
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Stockalike Station Parts Expansion Redux (StationPartsExpansionRedux 2.0.10)
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Toolbar (Toolbar 1:1.8.1.1)
Toolbar Controller (ToolbarController 1:0.1.9.11)
Transfer Window Planner (TransferWindowPlanner v1.8.0.0)
TriggerAu Flags (TriggerAu-Flags v2.11.0.0)
Universal Storage II Finalized (UniversalStorage2 4.0.1.1)
Waterfall - Restock (WaterfallRestock 0.2.3)
Waterfall Core (Waterfall 0.9.0)

 

 

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Cheesecake

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30 minutes ago, Stridsape said:

No, I don't think so, but I'll include a list of my installed mods from CKAN here just in case;

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B9 Part Switch (B9PartSwitch v2.20.0)
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BonVoyage (BonVoyage 1:1.4.1)
Breaking Ground (BreakingGround-DLC 1.7.1)
Celestial Body Science Editor (CelestialBodyScienceEditor 12.0)
Chatterer (Chatterer 0.9.99)
ClickThrough Blocker (ClickThroughBlocker 1:2.1.10.21)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit v112.0.1)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack v112.0.1)
Community Tech Tree (CommunityTechTree 1:3.4.4)
Contract Configurator (ContractConfigurator v2.6.6.0)
Contract Pack: Bases and Stations Reborn (ContractConfigurator-KerbinSpaceStation 2:3.7.3.1)
Contract Pack: Field Research (ContractConfigurator-FieldResearch 1.2.2)
Contract Pack: Kerbal Academy (ContractConfigurator-KerbalAcademy 1.1.10)
Contract Pack: Tourism Plus (ContractConfigurator-Tourism 1.5.2)
Cryo Tanks (CryoTanks 1.6.5)
Cryo Tanks Core (CryoTanks-Core 1.6.5)
Cryogenic Engines (CryoEngines 1:2.0.6)
Deployable Engines Plugin (DeployableEngines 1.3.1)
Docking Port Alignment Indicator (DockingPortAlignmentIndicator 6.10.0.0)
Dynamic Battery Storage (DynamicBatteryStorage 2:2.2.5.0)
Environmental Visual Enhancements Redux (EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements 3:1.11.7.1)
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SCANsat (SCANsat v20.4)
Scatterer (Scatterer 3:v0.0838)
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Scatterer Sunflare (Scatterer-sunflare 3:v0.0838)
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Stockalike Station Parts Expansion Redux (StationPartsExpansionRedux 2.0.10)
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Toolbar (Toolbar 1:1.8.1.1)
Toolbar Controller (ToolbarController 1:0.1.9.11)
Transfer Window Planner (TransferWindowPlanner v1.8.0.0)
TriggerAu Flags (TriggerAu-Flags v2.11.0.0)
Universal Storage II Finalized (UniversalStorage2 4.0.1.1)
Waterfall - Restock (WaterfallRestock 0.2.3)
Waterfall Core (Waterfall 0.9.0)

 

 

Why is there Cryo Tanks AND Cryo Tanks Core installed? There should only Cryo Tanks in your folder. Cryo Tanks Core is only a standalone version of the plugin without the Tanks. But the plugin is included in Cryo Tanks.

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21 minutes ago, Cheesecake said:

Why is there Cryo Tanks AND Cryo Tanks Core installed? There should only Cryo Tanks in your folder. Cryo Tanks Core is only a standalone version of the plugin without the Tanks. But the plugin is included in Cryo Tanks.

Good question - I wasn't aware I had both installed until now! Must have happened sometime I reinstalled mods.

Can I safely remove the CryoTanks Core then? Maybe that will fix it.

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11 minutes ago, Stridsape said:

Good question - I wasn't aware I had both installed until now! Must have happened sometime I reinstalled mods.

Can I safely remove the CryoTanks Core then? Maybe that will fix it.

Yes you can. And maybe that`s the problem.

 

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6 minutes ago, Cheesecake said:

Yes you can. And maybe that`s the problem.

 

Hmm, doesn't seem to work sadly. Can't be removed via CKAN - Cryo tanks Core is a dependency of Cryo tanks.

Maybe I can delete the standalone plugin somehow but I don't know what to remove, it's not a separate folder in Gamedata...

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RedDwarfIV

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I have encountered a bug where, despite having plenty of empty LH2 tank space on a craft, the ISRU converter insists that LH2 is full.

GSRixcK.png

Clearly it worked for a fraction of a second, because there is some LH2 in there, but then it stopped. I know it can work because I was able to fully fill a 5m tank then partially fill it again before running into this bug.

Any help would be appreciated.

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dlrk

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I just started a fresh save, and for whatever reason, the boiloff functionality isn't working on any of my tanks, including the stock ones. They are all showing the correct resources from CryoTanks, but the boiloff aspect appears to be missing. Any ideas on a potential cause?

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7 hours ago, dlrk said:

I just started a fresh save, and for whatever reason, the boiloff functionality isn't working on any of my tanks, including the stock ones. They are all showing the correct resources from CryoTanks, but the boiloff aspect appears to be missing. Any ideas on a potential cause?

Did you shutoff Boiloff in the settings of System Heat?

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Sennalen

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Does anyone have an already-made config file that patches radiance boiloff and hydrogen generation on everything? Even better if it makes all the cryo tanks and engines use LiquidOxygen with boiloff too. I want to be able to run a fuel cell from boiloff.

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Davi SDF

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8 hours ago, guest10985 said:

Does anyone have systemheat configs for Cryotanks?

If i remember correctly, they come in the "Extras" from the latest release of the "System Heat" mod, it's called "SystemHeatBoiloff"

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4 hours ago, Davi SDF said:

If i remember correctly, they come in the "Extras" from the latest release of the "System Heat" mod, it's called "SystemHeatBoiloff"

Ya, I saw that after i posted. Sorry

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Nertea

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Release 1.6.6

  • Updated DynamicBatteryStorage to 2.3.0
  • Updated B9PartSwitch to 2.20.0
  • Updated ModuleManager to 4.2.3
  • Added some handling which sets a delay of 30 physics ticks before boiloff kicks in to help with solar panel inconsistencies
  • Fixed shader on medium inline 3.75m hydrogen tank (again)
  • Fixed an issue where a player could disable a tank in the UI, thus disabling boiloff
  • Fixed an issue where MaximumBoiloffScale was not respected when using the advanced solar modes
  • Support VABOrganizer subcategories
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mateusviccari

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On 8/25/2024 at 6:50 PM, Nertea said:

Need the whole issue report. Log of the event, modlist, craft file with minimum mods for reproduction.

Sorry I took a while to get back to my PC, is this enough to help identify the problem?

KSP.log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GFvAeOUAkT3MgSO5rQgG43Oz9Qcp2T9U/view?usp=sharing

Craft file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yZ0y4gm-V8slvzG2cvIgdGITOpNgqaug/view?usp=sharing

Video showing the behavior:

GameData content, bare minimum mods and dependencies:

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/000_ClickThroughBlocker
/000_Toolbar
/001_ToolbarControl
/B9PartSwitch
/BetterTimeWarp
/CommunityResourcePack
/CryoTanks
/Squad
ModuleManager.4.2.3.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.TechTree
toolbar-settings.dat
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2 hours ago, mateusviccari said:

Sorry I took a while to get back to my PC, is this enough to help identify the problem?

KSP.log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GFvAeOUAkT3MgSO5rQgG43Oz9Qcp2T9U/view?usp=sharing

Craft file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yZ0y4gm-V8slvzG2cvIgdGITOpNgqaug/view?usp=sharing

Video showing the behavior:

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/000_ClickThroughBlocker
/000_Toolbar
/001_ToolbarControl
/B9PartSwitch
/BetterTimeWarp
/CommunityResourcePack
/CryoTanks
/Squad
ModuleManager.4.2.3.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.TechTree
toolbar-settings.dat

I don't see DynamicBatteryStorage installed in any of those which is a dependency, and will absolutely cause this to occur. Install the latest version and have another go.

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