Anth Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 We have Steam, Epic and Direct Download on release day correct? Which gives us the best early access experience? No idea Which will give us the best community experience? Steam? Also once bought steam allows for gifting others. Which makes Private Division/Intercept Games the most money? Direct Download? Also can we just buy product keys? I would like the option of gifting someone on whatever platform without being forced to one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tstein Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I avoid epic because the store and the updater are ... sub par quality. I will probably use steam because well nowadays I have all my games on steam, also because most people willb e on steam so community wise anythign that appears will be on a larger scale there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, tstein said: I avoid epic because the store and the updater are ... sub par quality. I will probably use steam because well nowadays I have all my games on steam, also because most people willb e on steam so community wise anythign that appears will be on a larger scale there. Yeah its pretty basic in its current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaman Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I can't see the game being any different wherever you get it from (unless it's not legit of course). I intend to get it from the official store, as I did KSP1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, pandaman said: I intend to get it from the official store, as I did KSP1 I do want all of the versions of KSP2 so that might be the better way for me to do it with. And who knows. Maybe the updates will be faster to the KSP Store than to steam/epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaman Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Anth12 said: I do want all of the versions of KSP2 so that might be the better way for me to do it with. And who knows. Maybe the updates will be faster to the KSP Store than to steam/epic As far as I know Steam are as quick with updates etc. as the official store. Personal choice of course, but I just don't see the point in using a 'middle man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, pandaman said: Personal choice of course, but I just don't see the point in using a 'middle man'. The community aspect of steam is one reason. The other would be that steam records the time played. Though that is flawed because the time the game is paused is also recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domonian Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Purchasing directly from the KSP2 store (direct download) will give the devs the most money, and I wouldn't be surprised if you could purchase a key to give someone else, although a key for Steam or Epic may still send money to said platform. I'm not sure how getting different versions of the game works, but it sounds like you can pick and choose any version of KSP1 and download it. Steam is smoothlined for gifting, and will have the best community features readily available, such as guides, screenshots, and depending on how they do modding and craft files, possibly mods and crafts available for download through the Steam Workshop. Steam also has versions of the game stretching back to 1.0.5 for KSP1, so past versions are available. Epic has... umm... not a whole lot. I would avoid, as it has nothing going for it in terms of community, modding, or game versions. More money will still go to the devs through Epic, but you lose far too much for it to be worth it over Steam or direct purchase. Every store will be up to date and running the same version (at least updates will be out on every platform quick enough to not be noticeable). I doubt there will be crossplay between PC and consoles, but I would be very surprised if there wasn't crossplay between PC platforms for multiplayer, provided game versions and mods/mod versions are the same. I'll personally be purchasing through Steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 12:32 AM, Domonian said: I wouldn't be surprised if you could purchase a key to give someone else, although a key for Steam or Epic may still send money to said platform. Not for Steam, devs don't pay for keys, but they're forbidden to sell those keys at a lower price than on Steam. That's what I found so funny of the whole Epic/Steam debacle, for the whole time Steam biggest competitor was and still is Steam Keys sold on different websites. And I'm not talking about the "gray" market, Humble Store had a 90-10% share split with devs for the longest time on Steam Keys (I think they changed that in the past couple of years) and devs can get 100% by just selling Steam keys on their own store. On 1/7/2023 at 12:17 AM, pandaman said: Personal choice of course, but I just don't see the point in using a 'middle man'. The point is if said middleman is useful in some way (for me, the player, the dev already made that decision when they put the game on one store instead of another). With Steam I get a (working) download scheduling system (I used to have a metered connection with an "unlimited at night" offer so that was important for me), a way to manage where I keep my game and on which disk (I have an old 2TB HDD I use as storage for games I'm not playing but I don't want to have to download again), controller/bindings systems (I have an HOTAS, 2 or 3 gamepads, a CM Controlpad and a VR setup), Proton for linux gaming, cloud saves, and seamless integration with the SteamDeck (obviously). For me it's useful to the point that I use XBOX Gamepass as a way to test games and then I buy them on Steam if I want to keep playing them. Yes, Microsoft own game launcher/store on their own platform is that bad, but still is way better than the last time I've checked EGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Master39 said: The point is if said middleman is useful in some way... <snip > I do completely agree with you here. Steam obviously offers features and facilities that many do find very useful and/or desirable, so it's the right choice for them, just not for me personally. I do have a Steam account but haven't used it in ages (the only way I could play CoD Black Ops), and I hated being forced to go online to play it as a single player game (not actually Steam's fault as such, I know). I doubt it will happen, though could in theory, but I would resent being forced to use Steam to play KSP 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boolybooly Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Steam because it will be the majority mode, so the priority portal. I am sure they will all be looked after by the devs and none left waiting for long but if there is ever a point where a priority list comes into play, I think it is likely Steam will be at the top. Plus I already repurchased KSP1 for Steam. Plus I expect to review KSP2 on Steam, which I hope will be positive but you got to keep the devs on their toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenred65 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Master39 said: Not for Steam, devs don't pay for keys, but they're forbidden to sell those keys at a lower price than on Steam. A couple of companies have cut down on how many keys are handed out internally recently as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 8:25 PM, pandaman said: I can't see the game being any different wherever you get it from (unless it's not legit of course). I intend to get it from the official store, as I did KSP1 Same, steam tend to force updates who can be an pain, steam is works well enough but they has issues with early access games in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Maybe it will be steam for me as well then. If it wasn't for a few people who I want to gift KSP2 I might have gone with the KSP Store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorj Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I wish it were coming to GOG, always my favorite place to buy games as I can be sure anything I buy there will work properly offline. Meanwhile I have it wishlisted on Steam. Steam cloud saves are really handy. The downside is Steam loves to auto-update to the latest patch, which isn't desirable when playing with mods. Hopefully we'll get old version support through the Beta tab like we used to have with KSP1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlercollin99 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 10:43 AM, magnemoe said: Same, steam tend to force updates who can be an pain, steam is works well enough but they has issues with early access games in particular. Same here too! I bought KSP back in 2012 and plan to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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