mattihase Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Is there any way IG can set up an officially hosted wiki like with ksp1 so we don't have to put up with a wiki hosted on Fandom's garbage ecosystem? I think having a real wiki would also further... further the game's focus on being accessible to new users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicat Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 It's planned but not anytime soon (This was posted on the ksp2 modding discord server) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattihase Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 good to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sincep Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I've already started to add ksp2 stuff to https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com. And I'm not the only one. I would like to tell everyone to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDev Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 11:51 AM, mattihase said: Is there any way IG can set up an officially hosted wiki like with ksp1 so we don't have to put up with a wiki hosted on Fandom's garbage ecosystem? I think having a real wiki would also further... further the game's focus on being accessible to new users. if enough people are interested in moving away from the fandom trash, ksp2.kerbal.wiki could be setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munix Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, sincep said: I've already started to add ksp2 stuff to https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com. And I'm not the only one. I would like to tell everyone to help! One of the issues is that pretty much every single page on the wiki will need two different versions, for example the masses and densities of all the planets are slightly different in KSP2, biomes work completely differently, parts have different stats, etc., so I think it would just be for the best to have a completely separate wiki for KSP2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, munix said: One of the issues is that pretty much every single page on the wiki will need two different versions, for example the masses and densities of all the planets are slightly different in KSP2, biomes work completely differently, parts have different stats, etc., so I think it would just be for the best to have a completely separate wiki for KSP2. Just do what SW wiki did https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Alliance_to_Restore_the_Republic/Legends A simple button to switch between realities. And so, a https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Eve/KSP2 could exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sincep Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, munix said: One of the issues is that pretty much every single page on the wiki will need two different versions, for example the masses and densities of all the planets are slightly different in KSP2, biomes work completely differently, parts have different stats, etc., so I think it would just be for the best to have a completely separate wiki for KSP2. Not necessarily! The wiki software (MediaWiki) have all the tools the community needs to afford this thing. KSP has a community waiting to massively restart to write the history of the game. It's already happening. For example: Kerbin (like duna Duna, the Kerbol System and other) already has a single main page about the concept of the planet with different sections about the KSP1 and KSP2 differences. The community did a wonderful job with KSP1: let's them to continue. The risk is of dispersing the know-how. KSP1 nad KSP2 specific pages can of course exist for example for Easter eggs or parts lists, the community will (they are still doing) find the right way! EDIT: i mean: we could already have this talk in the talk pages of the wiki! Edited December 28, 2023 by sincep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munix Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, sincep said: Not necessarily! The wiki software (MediaWiki) have all the tools the community needs to afford this thing. KSP has a community waiting to massively restart to write the history of the game. It's already happening. For example: Kerbin (like duna Duna, the Kerbol System and other) already has a single main page about the concept of the planet with different sections about the KSP1 and KSP2 differences. The community did a wonderful job with KSP1: let's them to continue. The risk is of dispersing the know-how. KSP1 nad KSP2 specific pages can of course exist for example for Easter eggs or parts lists, the community will (they are still doing) find the right way! EDIT: i mean: we could already have this talk in the talk pages of the wiki! I wouldn't mind the solution presented by @The Aziz above, with two tabs for the two games, but as it is, I feel like it is going to be very messy to have a single page for a planet with two completely different sets of information. Also I definitely agree MediaWiki is great for this, there's a reason why I use it for the KSP2 modding wiki. What I meant was more so to have one wiki instance for KSP1, and another for KSP2, since nearly everything is different between the two games. Edited December 28, 2023 by munix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDev Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I think 2 instances would be good with links between the 2. We use the domain kerbal.wiki for mods currently modname.kerbal.wiki. this could be extended to the games wiki ksp1.kerbal.wiki - can be redirected to the current ksp1 wiki ksp2.kerbal.wiki - can have a new media wiki instance setup and transfer over all the ksp2 content from the current ksp1 wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munix Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 hours ago, ShadowDev said: I think 2 instances would be good with links between the 2. We use the domain kerbal.wiki for mods currently modname.kerbal.wiki. this could be extended to the games wiki ksp1.kerbal.wiki - can be redirected to the current ksp1 wiki ksp2.kerbal.wiki - can have a new media wiki instance setup and transfer over all the ksp2 content from the current ksp1 wiki. I can't imagine the company would be too happy hosting their "official" wiki on a domain they have no control over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sincep Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Quote I think 2 instances would be good with links between the 2. I understand, you mean doing with the two versions (ksp1 and ksp2) like Wikipedia does with the different languages. My only objection is that this solution requires an organizational effort, reaching consensus, etc. While organizing both contents that the community is already slowly inserting into the instance that already exists seems more realistically reachable to me. It's also the right time since we're at the beginning of the discussion. Quote I can't imagine the company would be too happy hosting their "official" wiki on a domain they have no control over. Why? The Company was ok with the wiki of KSP1, why sould be different now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzlebop Smith Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 1/5/2024 at 4:35 AM, sincep said: I understand, you mean doing with the two versions (ksp1 and ksp2) like Wikipedia does with the different languages. My only objection is that this solution requires an organizational effort, reaching consensus, etc. While organizing both contents that the community is already slowly inserting into the instance that already exists seems more realistically reachable to me. It's also the right time since we're at the beginning of the discussion. Why? The Company was ok with the wiki of KSP1, why sould be different now? I imagine it has to do with level of developement. I admit the idea behind it sound amazing. [ Let the community continue to make awesome contributions to a franchise largely kept alive by that very communitys' efforts. ] But KSP1 and KSP2 are shaping up to be completely different entities in all things but name. My thoughts on this are.. When something grows beyond a single individuals ability to control. They evaluate whether or not it's worth an attempt to maintain control over. When a global entity has this issue, they delegate. I think if enough people from the community came together to organize and structure..but the effort would take clear communication amd dedicated work of a few to direct the creative efforts of the many into something worthwhile to use. I think PD trying to maintain a wiki isn't going to work well. If the output of the KERB and discord / forum involvement of current CM are anything to go by ... the wiki will get an update a few times a year. Maybe they can recruit some members of the community to function in this capacity. Get a helper credit on something somewhere and a bit of swag.. I don't know but a dedicated wiki that is up to date would be very bad ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazalassa Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) On 3/12/2024 at 4:09 AM, Fizzlebop Smith said: I think if enough people from the community came together to organize and structure Have a look at my try on Pol in the KSP wiki, maybe it'll work. (we should continue any discussion here: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/224071-official-ksp-2-wiki) Edited March 22 by Nazalassa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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