[WIP] Old school NASA-style Probe Control Room IVA

[kurgut]

Retro NASA style Probe Control Room IVA
 

Hi, I've been working on a complete remake of the PCR IVA interior, by giving it a retro style flavour, for the early days a Kerbal space exploration, when we didn't access to all those fancy MFD screens and such...  
 

• - Current todo :

- Better KOS/KPM page, this one is just copied for KPM, and isn't done yet
- CRTs big selector knobs : make them not slaved between each other if possible
- Try to fix ASET solar panel deployed Alarm indicator
- Refine Interior decorations
- 1.0 release ?
- Investigate RPM Ext cam wankyness
- Poke at Vulkan's work on "MAS-sifying" PCRIVAPLUS and maybe incorporate his work if he's willing to contribute ! Or try to do the same later (ASET to MAS patchs/etc)
- later : make a high tech version of PCR IVA, with fancy screens, MFD, etc. The same taste as KSA IVA upgrades, but more advanced.
- For that, figure out why I can't get MAS to work in PCR : MAS not working properly with Probe Control Room · Issue #372 · MOARdV/AvionicsSystems (github.com)

 

• Dependencies :

- Module Manager
- ASET consolidated Props and avionics
- RasterPropMonitor
- Probe Control Room

• Optional but recommended mods :

- MirageProps (WIP) : by @MirageDev and me (a tiny bit^^) :  adds props to allow maneuver creation from IVA with RPM !
- NearFutureIVAProps : Adds a lot of decorative elements :
- TDProps : A few more decorative elements : 

- KOSPropMonitor : Adds KPM pages integration to the CRTs.

• Other Mods to complement this mod's IVA experience :

- Mechjeb

- Astrogrator

 

 

• Links to WIP releases :

- TEST github release : Releases · kurgut/PCRIVAPLUS (github.com)

 

• Known issues

- ASET FDAI GUID MOD (navball vector selector) has sometime the animation not showing ingame, but the prop still works. Save/reload can fix.

- ASET ARRT (alt/alt rate tape meter) doesn't work consistently. Save/reload can fix.

- Random textures glitches,  see : https://github.com/JonnyOThan/RasterPropMonitor/issues/112

          Fix for now : rename the extension or delete PropBatching.cfg, in Gamedata/JSI/RasterPropMonitor/        Be aware, this could worsen the performances.

 

• License and credits and thank you :

- License : (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0)

- Contains Assets derived from ASET props and avionics mods (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0), and Warbird Cockpit mod by @theonegalen (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0).

- A huge and warm thanks to @JonnyOThan for all his precious help in all the IVA modding bits.  

• Pictures (click to enlarge) :

- Flight Director desk : 

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Center panel :         left side: CRT, DSKY, Engine section        right side: Main flight instruments       bottom: Maneuver Planner props (WIP)

Left Panel :     Event timer, mechjeb, AGs, CRT

Right panel :     General status indicators and warnings, rad/antenna/commnet/electric/solar/life support monitoring

- Crash Specialist desk (used for landing) :

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Center panel:   mostly the same as the Flight Dir, but with slight variations, with instruments more related to landing (slope, impact speed, etc)

Left panel:     chutes, gear, brakes, globus (ASET IMP)

Right panel:  Themal readings for reentry, alarms indicators, altitude warnings, utility controls

- CAPCOM desk (used for docking and target related things mainly) :

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Center panel:      docking CRT, FDAI (navball), fuel, and indicator flags related to docking

Left panel: AGs, X-Pointer, target related instruments

Right Panel : SAS mode, target/docking related flags, CRT, timer, DSKY, ...

- Other pictures showing new added Near Future props, for decoration (subject to change) :

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- The mysterious texture glitch I discussed in the todo section (if anyone knows, please tell me : ) )  related issue :https://github.com/JonnyOThan/RasterPropMonitor/issues/112

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- Just for reference, this the default look of Probe Control Room, so quite different ^^

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default PCR

KSA IVA upgrades variant

 

• If you want to see moving pictures of this mod in action, I'm doing a Career IVA only mode, in a video format which you can find here :

- By suggestion, I've made an in-depth overview of this mod and yeah, I covered every single switch, knob or instrument lol  
Or you can see this as a centralized place for usage of all ASET retro props too ^^

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Cheers and happy IVA-ing !  

Edited December 28, 2023 by kurgut

[Unbreakify]

Pretty cool. Going to download when its available

Edited December 18, 2023 by Unbreakify

[Provisional Name 43]

I have been wanting this in my modslist ever since it was showed on the KSPVR Discord server. I do hope it releases soon because VR is going to be amazing with this retro look.

[kurgut]

1 hour ago, Provisional Name 43 said:

I have been wanting this in my modslist ever since it was showed on the KSPVR Discord server. I do hope it releases soon because VR is going to be amazing with this retro look.

I've been said by Jonny that sadly, the switches might be too small for VR. Meaning you would flip mulitple of them at the same time, since your KerbalVR fingers are too big ^^

He told me so when I was almost done, so we'll see, maybe I'll make a simpler variant of this, with bigger props for VR, but take this info with a good rock of salt haha

Edited December 19, 2023 by kurgut

[kurgut]

Progress on the ManeuverPlanner props by Mirage < 3
Changed the layout/behavior to reduce number of props. Added reset button. Changed everything to retro push buttons, so it integrates well in retro IVAs. Next is making the time display in ydhms, instead of s, and later maybe integrating this on a custom page of the ASET DSKY, so you won't need the 4 displays anymore...!

On my side, currently working on making those custom CRT work outisde of Warbird cockpits...

[kurgut]

First test release is available, still WIP, expect broken things :
Edited first post with changes / todo / known bugs / dependencies / etc

Releases · kurgut/PCRIVAPLUS (github.com)

Enjoy  

 

[MirageDev]

This looks awesome!

[kurgut]

New release out which fixes an absurd MM patch that would apply this PCR IVA to all command pods ^^
Also, Mirage props got released for testing, and is now linked in the first post too : )

[Unbreakify]

Sick!! I'm going to control the X-33 with this, lmao

[WolfieKSP]

Hello, could you meaybe add support for KOS? Also IMO the near futrure props are a little bit too futuristic. Other than that, great mod overall, really adds a lot to the IVA missions, I actually needed that!

[kurgut]

6 minutes ago, WolfieKSP said:

great mod overall, really adds a lot to the IVA missions, I actually needed that!

Hey thank you !  : )

6 minutes ago, WolfieKSP said:

Hello, could you meaybe add support for KOS? 

That would be nice, I'd need to take the KOS monitor pages from ASET and put them in those CRT monitors, good idea ! That's not going to be the first thing to come, since I need to do clean up/fix what's already there .   Cheers

6 minutes ago, WolfieKSP said:

Also IMO the near futrure props are a little bit too futuristic.

@WolfieKSP Yeah I know, thinking the same here, I plan on to modifying this, thanks for the feedback !

Edited December 21, 2023 by kurgut

[WolfieKSP]

8 minutes ago, kurgut said:

Hey thank you !  : )

That would be nice, I'd need to take the KOS monitor pages from ASET and put them in those CRT monitors, good idea ! That's not going to be the first thing to come, since I need to do clean up/fix what's already there .   Cheers

@WolfieKSP Yeah I know, thinking the same here, I plan on to modifying this, thanks for the feedback !

Wow, appriciate the activity! Take your time, and I hope you have marry chrsitmas

[john1978]

Love it thank you so much been wanting this

[kurgut]

New release is out :

Fixes CRTs buttons not working for certain pages
More small CRT fixes, cam gain rotary switch now works
Release 0.8.4 WIP · kurgut/PCRIVAPLUS (github.com)

[kurgut]

- By suggestion, I've made an in-depth overview of this mod and yeah, I covered every single switch, knob or instrument lol   
Or you can see this as a centralized place for usage of all ASET retro props/RPM monitor pages too ^^

 

[WolfieKSP]

Hello, I've experienced a bug  that appear on the two latest versions (didn't check earlier ones)

There is no big CRT's  and one small one near the mechjeb interface(also shows rpm error (If anyone knows how to fix it, I'd be more than thankful)) (might be my error becasue on a different download it worked)

Edited December 25, 2023 by WolfieKSP

[kurgut]

11 hours ago, WolfieKSP said:

Hello, I've experienced a bug  that appear on the two latest versions (didn't check earlier ones)

There is no big CRT's  and one small one near the mechjeb interface(also shows rpm error (If anyone knows how to fix it, I'd be more than thankful)) (might be my error becasue on a different download it worked)

Do you have all dependencies installed ? Could you provide your ksp.log ? It's not impossible I messed something up, but I tested it once before publishing it...
 

Edited December 25, 2023 by kurgut

[WolfieKSP]

On 12/25/2023 at 2:33 PM, kurgut said:

Do you have all dependencies installed ? Could you provide your ksp.log ? It's not impossible I messed something up, but I tested it once before publishing it...
 

Oh yeah it was totally one of the dependencies, thank you! Great mod once again (I don't want to be annoying but are you maybe planning on making a IVA replacement for the stock capsules? (especially the mk1-3))

[kurgut]

7 minutes ago, WolfieKSP said:

Oh yeah it was totally one of the dependencies, thank you! Great mod once again (I don't want to be annoying but are you maybe planning on making a IVA replacement for the stock capsules? (especially the mk1-3))

Hi ! Ok glad it works : )
For now, I'd want to finish this and the external command seat IVA I'm working on first. Then I have other IVA projects too planned^^ But why not ! (note that there are already nice IVAs for stock (Starilex/warbirds/KSA, if you're looking in the retro style for the mk1-3 :  MAS has one, Max-ksp IVA too IIRC).
Cheers and happy christmas

Edited December 26, 2023 by kurgut

[WolfieKSP]

 

40 minutes ago, kurgut said:

Hi ! Ok glad it works : )
For now, I'd want to finish this and the external command seat IVA I'm working on first. Then I have other IVA projects too planned^^ But why not ! (note that there are already nice IVAs for stock (Starilex/warbirds/KSA, if you're looking in the retro style for the mk1-3 :  MAS has one, Max-ksp IVA too IIRC).
Cheers and happy christmas

Thank you! happy christmas!

[symphons]

Thanks for the IVA work, you're single handedly keeping me from playing KSP2 (not really) with this and your IVA career series. 

Is there plans for KOS integration in the future? I know RPM already has integration with KOS through kOSPropMonitor, would it be difficult? 

I feel like KOS actually adds a lot to a IVA career. Writing scripts that automate certain functions, or scripts that only control certain parameters while a pilot can control another would be cool. For example, the Apollo lunar landing computer only allowed for pilots to adjust the spacecrafts yaw (correct me if I'm wrong) while the computer pretty much handled everything else!

 

[kurgut]

8 hours ago, symphons said:

Thanks for the IVA work, you're single handedly keeping me from playing KSP2 (not really) with this and your IVA career series. 

Many thanks !  < 3 Glad you're enjoying it !  

8 hours ago, symphons said:

Is there plans for KOS integration in the future? I know RPM already has integration with KOS through kOSPropMonitor, would it be difficult? 

That's totally planned and in my "very-soon" todo list ! It would be indeed very useful, since KOS can provide infos and actions currently lacking in the current state of RPM for instance.

I'd need to poke at how it's integrated in RPM, and most likely create a custom page for the current CRTs to have a KOS page...

I'll most likely post updates about it in this thread : )

Happy hollydays to you !

 

[kurgut]

New release, 0.9 : Release 0.9 · kurgut/PCRIVAPLUS (github.com)

Lots of improvements/fixes, see below for full changelog :
Added basic support for KOS/KPM to the CRTs. : ) @symphons
Full(-ish) changelog :

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Many many props alignement fixes/ various changes
Add the last missing ASET props variants (Alarms/Flag indicators/etc)
Changes the nearfutureIVAprops decorations to be less futuristic and fit more in the retro style (subject to change/not finished)
Fix mechjeb lable plate no backlights
Refined Flight director, Crash Specialist and Capcom stations instruments layout : main panel, alarms, utility, readability, sizes, new/changed instruments/switches
PCRIVA astrogrator page buttons fixed : up/dwn        ent: create node        ESC: timewarp to node      Home: clear created node
Added basic support for KPM/KOS : KPM pages added to CRT 1 and 3 (desks, wall right)
CRTs : made consistent order of pages/changed the custom pages for each one
CRTs selector knobs : add proper text labels and fix backlights
CRT 3 (wall right) : re arranged the buttons properly to be the same asCRT 2 (wall left)

Current todo :

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- Better KOS/KPM page, this one is just copied for KPM, and isn't done yet
- CRTs big selector knobs : make them not slaved between each other if possible
- Try to fix ASET solar panel deployed Alarm indicator
- Refine Interior decorations
- 1.0 release ?
- Investigate RPM Ext cam wankyness
- Poke at Vulkan's work on "MAS-sifying" PCRIVAPLUS and maybe incorporate his work if he's willing to contribute ! Or try to do the same later (ASET to MAS patchs/etc)

Enjoy !

Edited December 28, 2023 by kurgut

[kurgut]

New PCR IVA PLUS update : 0.9.1 :
- Add seat UP/DOWN props for all stations, so the camera can move down from the default position, allowing for better visibility at both the wall screens and stations panels/instruments at the same time.
- Various prop alignment fixes / cleanup.

Release 0.9.1 - Seat up/down · kurgut/PCRIVAPLUS (github.com)
Small video :

 

Edited January 18 by kurgut

[JeromeHeretic]

Man, this is so cool mod, you made my day! I love this oldschool avionics and use all IVA mods with it which was made. A bit later, but thx for such a nice xmass present!